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il contributo di Mister Tarpone...
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commento finale di sta rece:
Had their launch gone off unopposed, AMD would have made a huge splash with the introduction of the Radeon HD 4850. Priced at $199 this card would have been a GeForce 8800 GT killer. Our testing reveals that the board runs up to 22% faster than the GeForce 8800 GT. But unfortunately for AMD, it appears that the Radeon HD 4850 won’t be going up against the GeForce 8800 GT. Instead, as a result of NVIDIA’s latest price cuts, the 4850 will be going head-to-head with the much mightier GeForce 9800 GTX. This battle is a neck-and-neck race. In games like Quake Wars, F.E.A.R., and Call of Duty 4, our testing gave the edge to the 4850. But in Lost Planet DX10 and BioShock DX10 the GeForce 9800 GTX ran faster than the 4850 (in Company of Heroes, the 4850 and 9800 GTX traded wins). Meanwhile Crysis, HL2 Episode Two, and Oblivion were too close to call. Depending on which games you play (and perhaps certain levels in the same game) the edge could go to AMD or NVIDIA in our preliminary testing. Clearly the moral of this story if you’re AMD is to keep your plans quiet. If AMD had done a better job of keeping the details on RV770 under wraps, NVIDIA wouldn’t have had the opportunity to spoil their big launch. NVIDIA’s lesson learned is to not underestimate AMD. We along with everyone else in the online media were extremely disappointed by the original 9800 GTX launch: the card offered little over the GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB, much less an 8800 GTX or 8800 Ultra. The GeForce 9800 GTX+ is what the original 9800 GTX should have been in our opinion. The 9800 GTX runs about 8 or 9% faster than the 9800 GTX, which still isn’t always enough to overtake the 8800 Ultra, but it’s definitely an improvement. The disappointing part about the 9800 GTX+ is that these cards won’t hit shelves until sometime in July. The Radeon 4850 will hit retail as soon as June 25th, giving it a few weeks head start over the GTX+. And we don’t know when NVIDIA’s new pricing will take effect. A quick glance at Newegg right now reveals that 9800 GTX boards are still selling for well over $199. We’ll have more benchmarks with the 4850 and GTX+ next week, as well as AMD’s higher-performing Radeon HD 4870. If a Radeon HD 4850 can outrun a GeForce 9800 GTX in some cases, imagine what a 4870 can do! AZZ... ![]() |
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altre info...
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...gtx-55nm-g92/1 G92 on 55nm - that G80 core has come a long way since its 90nm launch in November 2006 If you were thinking Nvidia had no answer to the AMD HD 4850 and was only launching the 260 GTX and 280 GTX, you might want to think again. Nvidia dropped into our offices today to give us a sneak peek at the new 55nm G92 part it has been working on - the 9800 GTX+ (plus). Older 9800 GTX, 8800 GTS 512 and 8800 GT parts were made using a 65nm G92 core, which was evolved from the original G80 part that launched in November 2006 - but this card doesn't have that weakness. Again this core architecture goes from strength to strength and using TSMC's 55nm process - the same one AMD uses for the HD 3000 series graphics cards (and 700 series chipsets), Nvidia has made an even cooler GPU. Well, it would be cooler, but the 9800 GTX+ is clocked even higher than the old GTX with a core speed of 738MHz, up from 675MHz - a 9.3 percent increase. Shader clocks have also been increased from 1,688MHz to 1,836MHz (an increase of 8.8 percent), and GDDR3 memory remains around the 1.0-1.2GHz (2.0-2.4GHz effective) speed. The memory chips have changed from Samsung on the 9800 GTX to Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N2C in our 9800 GTX+ sample which is rated for 1.2GHz (2.4GHz). It's $229 price will place the 9800 GTX+ directly between the "more expensive" (we'll see) HD 4870 (whenever that arrives - it completely depends on GDDR5 availability) and the HD 4850 at $199, although we expect AMD to drop the price of the HD 4850 in response to this. The current 65nm 9800 GTX will also drop in price below the new 9800 GTX+ to $199, and so we expect the rest of the lower card SKUs like the 8800 GTS 512, 8800 GT and G94 based 9600 GT to also drop in price too! However, Nvidia wouldn't confirm this with us yet. Since the 8800 GTS 512, 8800 GT have already reached end-of-life, and even the 9800 GTX is reported to have followed recently this doesn't seem too far fetched as people already try to clear stock, just a short couple of months after it was launched. We also asked if the 9600 GT will be ported to 55nm but Nvidia said it "hasn't decided yet". The one problem we see is that that all you who've recently bought 9800 GTX or 9800 GX2s will be mightily annoyed at the fact this new card arrives without warning at a better performance but with a very, very attractive price indeed. ![]()
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interessante. ci sarà un abbassamento generale dei prezzi.
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9800gtx + a 229$. 9800gtx a 199$. ![]()
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Grande HAL.
Quetsa new Entry sembra molto valida se associata anche a un bel taglio dei prezzi di Nvidia visto che a sto giro ATI non è stata a guardare come nel caso della serie (flop) 2000. La rinata rivalità ad armi pari porterà sicuramente benefici a noi utenti. Ora ci sarà da vedere,a mio modesto parere,la questione dei driver "unificati" con PhysX,nel forum della 8800gtx ho letto cose interessanti. |
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Nanometri, consumi e temperature a parte che dovrebbero migliorare, secondo voi quanto dovrebbe andare più forte?
Cioè, salvo superiori margini di overclockabilità non mi sembra che possa offrire prestazioni realmente più alte... Che ne pensate?
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cmq è incredibile la riduzione di dimensioni di questa gpu. praticamente nonostante il doppio degli sp e tmu il chip sarebbe + piccolo rispetto al G94 della 96GT.
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Beh, sono i notevol ivantaggi dei processi produttivi inferiori
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Per aumenti di prestazioni dati dai driver penso che saranno ristretti a questo o a quel gioco,secondo me. Cmq io l'avrei vista meglio sui 200euro mi sa che la vedremo sui 250euro qua da noi,poi spero di sbagliare... Aumenta la curiosità per la 4870....stiamo tutti aspettando per fare i confronti |
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ora tocca vedere disponibilità e prezzi in €. nonche ovviamente altre rece esaustive. una mia considerazione è rivolta al nome uno ben diverso tipo 9900gtx(che sapevo)sarebbe stato + indicato ma forse questa denominazione sarà appannaggio di un'altra scheda. ![]()
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Penso anch'io che con questa scheda dovrebbero puntare a prezzi ultra competitivi ...
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Speriamo si conoscano presto questi limiti, altrimenti, se il prezzo è troppo alto, potrebbe non essere appetibile.
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In pieno accordo con la conclusione di questa rece
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...gtx+/page9.asp bye |
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