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Old 31-03-2005, 13:36   #1
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Problema con DVD PIONEER

Salve,
ho un problema con il DVD PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K12D del mio portatile, Sony VAIO.
Probabilmente dopo aver installato qualche software (purtroppo non uso il lettore tutti i giorni, quindi me ne sono accorto "dopo") non compare più nella Gestione Risorse. Nella gestione perifieriche è marcato con il pallino giallo e l'errore è:

"Caricamento del driver di periferica per l'hardware completato. È tuttavia impossibile trovare la periferica hardware. (Codice 41)

Per avviare la Risoluzione dei problemi, scegliere Risoluzione problemi."

Premesso che ho provato a:
-disinstallare-rimuovere la periferica ma niente, dopo la rilevazione il risultato è lo stesso
-provato ad aggiornare il driver con windows update ma non trova nulla
-non è un problema hardware dato che utilizzando linux il lettore funziona correttamente, sia in lettura che in scrittura

Qualcuno ha idea?
Utilzzare qualche tool per la rimozione dei drivers?
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:50   #2
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Onestamente non saprei...
Installati gli ASPI? (vedi FAQ in testa alla pagina)
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Old 01-04-2005, 16:11   #3
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ASPI installati e Infotool di Nero li riporta correttamente installati.


Infotool riconosce il lettore (va be' analizza il canale)...

Codice PHP:
Nero InfoTool 2.04

Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description                                  Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description                                  
System32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company                                      
Microsoft Corporation
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description                                  IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description                                  
MasterIC25N060ATMR04-0
Type                                         
Disk Drive
DMA                                         
On

Adapter 2
---------
Description                                  Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description                                  
System32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company                                      
Microsoft Corporation
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Description                                  IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description                                  
MasterPIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-K12D
Type                                         
CD-Rom Drive
DMA                                         
On
Autorun                                      
On

Adapter 3
---------
Description                                  unknown

Driver
Description
Company
Version
Description

Attached Devices
Description                                  
Memory Stick Slot
Type                                         
Disk Drive


Software Information
--------------------
Operating System                             Windows XP Home Edition (5.01.2600 Service Pack 2)
ASPI                                         Win32 Nero Aspi Library 2.0.1.59 Ahead Software AG

Description                                  
Nero Burning ROM
Version                                      
60019
Company                                      
Ahead Software AG
Version Check                                
Ok


Hardware Information
--------------------
CPU                                         :  Intel  Pentium  4 CPU 2.80GHz 2800 MHz
Bus Speed                                    
:  133 MHz
Motherboard                                  
:  Sony Q-Project
System                                       
:  Sony PCG-FR415S(IT)
BIOS                                         :  Phoenix R0109K7
Memory                                       
446 MB
Sound                                        
SoundMAX Digital Audio
Video                                        
: ?

Driver Information
------------------
Driver                                       Abiosdsk
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
abp480n5
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
ACPI
Description                                  
Driver ACPI per NT
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
ACPIEC
Description                                  
Driver del controller integrato Microsoft
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
adpu160m
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
aeaudio
Description                                  
Andrea Audio Stub Driver
Version                                      
1.0.0.2 (STUB)
Company                                      Andrea Electronics Corporation

Driver                                       
aec
Description                                  
Microsoft Acoustic Echo Canceller
Version                                      
5.1.2601.2078
Company                                      
Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Aha154x
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
aic78u2
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
aic78xx
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
aliadwdm
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
AliIde
Description                                  
ALi mini IDE Driver
Version                                      
1.20
Company                                      
Acer Laboratories Inc.

Driver                                       amsint
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
ApfiltrService
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
Arp1394
Description                                  
IP/1394 Arp Client
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
asc
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
asc3350p
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
asc3550
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
Aspi32
Description                                  
ASPI for WIN32 Kernel Driver
Version                                      
4.71 (0002)
Company                                      Adaptec

Driver                                       
AsyncMac
Description                                  
MS Remote Access serial network driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
atapi
Description                                  
IDE/ATAPI Port Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Atdisk
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
ati2mtag
Description                                  
ATI Radeon Miniport Driver
Version                                      
6.14.10.6392
Company                                      
ATI Technologies Inc.

Driver                                       Atmarpc
Description                                  
IP/ATM Arp Client
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
audstub
Description                                  
AudStub Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Bridge
Description                                  
MAC Bridge Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
BridgeMP
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
caboagp
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
cbidf2k
Description                                  
CardBus/PCMCIA IDE Miniport Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
cd20xrnt
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
CdaC15BA
Description                                  
Macrovision SECURITY Driver
Version                                      
3.17.000
Company                                      
Macrovision Europe Ltd

Driver                                       
Cdaudio
Description                                  
CD-ROM Audio Filter Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Cdfs
Description                                  
CD-ROM File System Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Cdrom
Description                                  
SCSI CD-ROM Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Changer
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
CmBatt
Description                                  
Control Method Battery Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
CmdIde
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
Compbatt
Description                                  
Composite Battery Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Cpqarray
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
dac960nt
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
Disk
Description                                  
PnP Disk Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
dmboot
Description                                  
Driver di avvio di Gestione dischi di NT
Version                                      
2600.2180.503.0
Company                                      
Microsoft Corp., Veritas Software

Driver                                       
DMICall
Description                                  
Windows 2000 DMI Call Kernel Driver
Version                                      
1.0.01.12050
Company                                      
Sony Corporation

Driver                                       
dmio
Description                                  
Driver di I/O di Gestione dischi di NT
Version                                      
2600.2180.503.0
Company                                      
Microsoft Corp., Veritas Software

Driver                                       
dmload
Description                                  
NT Disk Manager Startup Driver
Version                                      
2600.0.503.0
Company                                      
Microsoft Corp., Veritas Software.

Driver                                       DMusic
Description                                  
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
dpti2o
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
drmkaud
Description                                  
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler Filter
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Fastfat
Description                                  
Fast FAT File System Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Fdc
Description                                  
Floppy Disk Controller Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Flpydisk
Description                                  
Floppy Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
FltMgr
Description                                  
Microsoft Filesystem Filter Manager
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Ftdisk
Description                                  
Driver FT del disco
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Gpc
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
HidUsb
Description                                  
USB Miniport Driver for Input Devices
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
hpn
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
HSFHWALI
Description                                  
HSFHWALI WDM driver
Version                                      
6.01.20
Company                                      
Conexant SystemsInc.

Driver                                       HSF_DP
Description                                  
HSF_DP driver
Version                                      
6.01.20
Company                                      
Conexant SystemsInc.

Driver                                       HTTP
Description                                  
HTTP Protocol Stack
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2525 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.040919-1056)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
i2omgmt
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
i2omp
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
i8042prt
Description                                  
Driver della porta i8042
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Imagedrv
Description                                  
NERO IMAGEDRIVE SCSI miniport
Version                                      
2.23.0.0
Company                                      
Ahead Software AG and its licensors

Driver                                       
Imapi
Description                                  
IMAPI Kernel Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
ini910u
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
IntelIde
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
intelppm
Description                                  
Driver di periferica processore
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
ip6fw
Description                                  
IPv6 Windows Firewall Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
IpFilterDriver
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
IpInIp
Description                                  
IP in IP Encapsulation Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
IpNat
Description                                  
IP Network Address Translator
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2524 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.040919-1056)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
IPSec
Description                                  
IPSec Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
IRENUM
Description                                  
Infra-Red Bus Enumerator
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
isapnp
Description                                  
Driver bus PNP ISA
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
kmixer
Description                                  
Kernel Mode Audio Mixer
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
L0phtPkt
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
lbrtfdc
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
mdmxsdk
Description                                  
Diagnostic Interface DRIVER
Version                                      
1.0.1.012
Company                                      
Conexant

Driver                                       
Modem
Description                                  
Driver del modem
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
mouhid
Description                                  
Driver del filtro del mouse HID
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
mraid35x
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
MRxDAV
Description                                  
Windows NT WebDav Minirdr
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
MSKSSRV
Description                                  
MS KS Server
Version                                      
5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
MSPCLOCK
Description                                  
MS Proxy Clock
Version                                      
5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
MSPQM
Description                                  
MS Proxy Quality Manager
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
mssmbios
Description                                  
System Management BIOS Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NAVENG
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
NAVEX15
Description                                  
n/a
Version                                      
n/a
Company                                      
n/a

Driver                                       
NdisTapi
Description                                  
NDIS 3.0 connection wrapper driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Ndisuio
Description                                  
NDIS User mode I/O Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NdisWan
Description                                  
MS PPP Framing Driver (Strong Encryption)
Version                                      5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NIC1394
Description                                  
IEEE1394 Ndis Miniport and Call Manager
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NPF
Description                                  
NPF Driver TME extensions
Version                                      
30018
Company                                      
Politecnico di Torino

Driver                                       
Npfs
Description                                  
NPFS Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Ntfs
Description                                  
NT File System Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NwlnkFlt
Description                                  
NWLINK2 Traffic Filter Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
NwlnkFwd
Description                                  
NWLINK2 Forwarder Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
ohci1394
Description                                  
1394 OpenHCI Port Driver
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
Parport
Description                                  
Driver della porta parallela
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       
PartMgr
Description                                  
Partition Manager
Version                                      
5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Company                                      Microsoft Corporation

Driver                                       

Version                                      7.0.2.02.62a

Driver                                       
msvcirt.dll
Version                                      
7.0.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver                                       mfc42.dll
Version                                      
6.02.4131.0

Driver                                       
mfc42loc.dll
Version                                      
6.00.8665.0

Driver                                       
msvcp60.dll
Version                                      
6.02.3104.0

Driver                                       
msvcp70.dll
Version                                      
7.00.9466.0

Driver                                       
msvcr70.dll
Version                                      
7.00.9466.0

Driver                                       
ole32.dll
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2595 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729)

Driver                                       olepro32.dll
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180

Driver                                       
oledlg.dll
Version                                      
1.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)

Driver                                       adva
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver                                       comctl32.dll
Version                                      
5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Driver                                       setupapi.dll
Version                                      
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)

Lower Filters
-------------
Driver                                       PxHelp20
Description                                  
Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
Version                                      
2.02.62a
Company                                      
Sonic Solutions

Upper Filters
-------------
Video Codecs
------------
Cinepak Codec by Radius                      1.10.0.11
Intel 4
|2|0 Video V2.50                      5.1.2600.2180
Intel Indeo
(RVideo R3.2
Intel Indeo
(RVideo R3.2
Codec Intel IYUV                             
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft RLE                                5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft Video 1                            5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Microsoft YUV                                5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft YUV                                5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Toshiba YUV Codec                            5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Microsoft YUV                                5.3.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec                  5.1.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec                  
5.1.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5                       
4.51.16.03
Indeo® video 5.10                            
R.5.10.15.2.55
Software per Sony DV CODEC
XviD MPEG
-4 Codec                            n/a
Microsoft MPEG
-4 Video Codec V1              4.1.00.3917
Microsoft MPEG
-4 Video Codec V2              4.1.00.3917

Audio Codecs
------------
CODEC Microsoft IMA ADPCM                    4.00.0.0
CODEC Microsoft ADPCM                        
4.00.0.0
Microsoft CCITT G.711 A
-Law and u-Law CODEC  4.00.0.0
CODEC audio Microsoft GSM 6.10               
4.00.0.0
CODEC Software DSP Group TrueSpeech
(TM)      : 1.00.0.0
Microsoft G.723.1 CODEC                      
1.02.0.1
Windows Media Audio                          
4.02.0.0
Sipro Lab Telecom ACELP
.net audio codec      3.02.0.0
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer
-3 Codec (advanced) : 1.09.1.49
Indeo® audio software                        
2.05.0.53
Convertitore PCM Microsoft                   
5.00.0.0


ASPI Information
----------------
System ASPI                                  ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32
.DLL                                 :  4.71 (000245056 bytes July 172002
ASPI32
.SYS                                   :  4.71 (000216877 bytes July 172002
WINASPI
.DLL                                  :  4.60 (10215600 bytes July 172002
WOWPOST
.EXE                                  :  4.60 (10214672 bytes July 172002

Nero ASPI                                    
:  ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32
.DLL                                 :  2.0.1.59 160016 bytes June 172003 
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stesso identico problema: da un giorno all'altro iwndows xp non mi riconsoce più alcun cd/dvd, nemmeno le epriferiche virtuali (nero imagedrive): in tutti i casi mi dà lo stesso identico messaggio di errore (quello citato da sky) e invece le periferiche sono regolarnete riconosciute sia dal bios che da linux....
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guarda, alla fine l'ha vinta windows ed ho dovuto riformattare...non c'è stato niente da fare...
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