[Thread Ufficiale] Asus P5E/P5E3 - Intel X38

[pirus]

Originariamente inviato da peppoz91

Ragazzi scusate se chiedo quà,da diversi giorni ho qualche problema con questa mobo e le crucial ballistix,sono andate bene per 2 settimane e poi hanno iniziato a dare di testa! Ho provato a testare le ram con memtest e mi esce questo messaggio :

error found copying between word pairs # 107626173 and 107625846




COme lo devo interpretare?Sono le ram difettose o è la mobo?

Le mie sono in assistenza rma.....secondo me la p5e le manda in tilt...provate su 5 configurazioni diverse e problemi a gogo!

[Scorpitron]

scusate se mi ripeto ma per un q6600 c'è bisogno di un aggiornamento del bios?

[Andrea deluxe]

Originariamente inviato da Scorpitron

scusate se mi ripeto ma per un q6600 c'è bisogno di un aggiornamento del bios?

no

[Kharonte85]

Originariamente inviato da Scorpitron

scusate se mi ripeto ma per un q6600 c'è bisogno di un aggiornamento del bios?

No


e 2...

[Kharonte85]

Ragazzi, ho trovato per caso un interessantissimo post sul forum ufficiale di ASUS, lo riporto:

[Problem]DDR2 (1066, 800, etc.) memory problems & the P5E - Solution Plan

OK All,

I hope that this thread is a solution thread for all those with memory problems and the P5E. I am going to lay out a plan here that hopefully will get everyone with memory problems up and running on their P5E.

First off, let’s start with the BIOS. My recommendation, based on Bobmitmen's testing (and my own verification as well as ASUS's recommendations), is to use the oldest BIOS that supports your CPU (and that doesn't give you any other problems). My machine has a Q6600 in it, so that would be BIOS 0201 for me. You can check ASUS's chart here for your CPU. If your board has a newer BIOS, you may want to flash back to an older one (they seem to be more stable prior to 0203 according to some info. that Bobmitmen found). If you do need to flash back, you can use ASUS's BIOS update utility version 6.10.02 here, which allows you to flash an older BIOS. Now that you have the BIOS, let’s talk about the RAM.

ASUS apparently overvolts the RAM a bit in the BIOS. The latest info. I have read, shows a linear overvoltage of about .057v. So your BIOS settings and actual voltage to the RAM would look like this:

BIOS / Actual --- BIOS / Actual
1.80v = 1.857v --- 2.02v = 2.077v
1.82v = 1.877v --- 2.04v = 2.097v
1.84v = 1.897v --- 2.06v = 2.177v
1.86v = 1.917v --- 2.08v = 2.137v
1.88v = 1.937v --- 2.10v = 2.157v ---- BIOS / Actual
1.90v = 1.957v --- 2.12v = 2.177v ---- 2.24v = 2.297v (max spec. for my RAM)
1.92v = 1.977v --- 2.14v = 2.197v
1.94v = 1.997v --- 2.16v = 2.217v
1.96v = 2.017v --- 2.18v = 2.237v
1.98v = 2.037v --- 2.20v = 2.257v
2.00v = 2.057v --- 2.22v = 2.277v

I even read one test somewhere, where the BIOS setting was .24v less than the actual voltage to the RAM which would drastically change the chart above, so I would recommend starting on the conservative side (like 1.86v). I would recommend starting your DRAM voltage testing at 1.86v and move up from there (if your RAM is 2.2v RAM like mine). To test your RAM accurately, there is a new version of MemTest86+ that recognizes the X38 chipset correctly. Download the ISO version of it here (http://www.memtest.org/#downiso). The DRAM timings may also need to be set manually. My RAM, running at 1066Mhz is spec’ed for 5-5-5-15 2T and 4-4-4-12 2T at 800Mhz. Make sure you run MemTest for at least 2-3 full cycles before you conclude that your RAM timings and voltage are set correctly (I have had the first test cycle come out fine, but the second pass started showing errors, so I had to change settings). If you can’t get the RAM to test well at the factory specs, try relaxing the timings a little (say 5-5-5-18 which I have seen some people have success with, then try tightening them up from there). You may want/need to relax some of the secondary timings as well. I read a post where the default secondary was 3-42-6-3 and what finally worked was 10-42-6-10 (which is quite relaxed).


For OS installation, if you have 4 sticks of RAM like I do, I would recommend installing your OS with just two sticks of RAM. Once you have your OS installed, working, and stable; add the other two sticks of RAM. If you start getting system instability (and NOTHING else has changed) after adding the two additional sticks, you know where the problem is right away. Often you will need to increase your NorthBridge voltage if you use all 4 sticks of RAM. I would recommend taking the voltage up two steps and then test and move up from there if needed. Some reports I have read where people have set it to as much as 1.63v, but most seem to work at somewhere between 1.3v and 1.4v.

Last, I'll look at RAID. I'm running two 500GB WD HD's using the built-in Intel Matrix RAID. I have had multiple, wierd crashes that have actually broken the RAID many times. It looks like this is also a RAM problem. I have more info. on RAID toward the end of this thread (when I actually got my board back from ASUS).

Well, that’s it. I hope this is helpful to everyone and get’s your P5E working the way it is supposed to, esp. with 1066Mhz RAM!

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

[Scorpitron]

Originariamente inviato da Kharonte85

No


e 2...

scusami ma non lo avevo letto prima cmq grazie mille

[Kharonte85]

Originariamente inviato da Scorpitron

scusami ma non lo avevo letto prima cmq grazie mille

Non preoccuparti, con 2 notti in ginocchio sui ceci puoi avere il nostro perdono

[Scorpitron]

Originariamente inviato da Kharonte85

Non preoccuparti, con 2 notti in ginocchio sui ceci puoi avere il nostro perdono

e allora dovrai aspettare un pò perchè se proprio sono fortunato(mai stato in vita mia con i pc) andrà tutto bene se no sarò ankora qui a parlare dei miei dubbi e problemi riguardo l'asus quindi i ceci saranno per la prox

[pirus]

Originariamente inviato da Kharonte85

Ragazzi, ho trovato per caso un interessantissimo post sul forum officiale di ASUS, lo riporto:

[Problem]DDR2 (1066, 800, etc.) memory problems & the P5E - Solution Plan

OK All,

I hope that this thread is a solution thread for all those with memory problems and the P5E. I am going to lay out a plan here that hopefully will get everyone with memory problems up and running on their P5E.

First off, let’s start with the BIOS. My recommendation, based on Bobmitmen's testing (and my own verification as well as ASUS's recommendations), is to use the oldest BIOS that supports your CPU (and that doesn't give you any other problems). My machine has a Q6600 in it, so that would be BIOS 0201 for me. You can check ASUS's chart here for your CPU. If your board has a newer BIOS, you may want to flash back to an older one (they seem to be more stable prior to 0203 according to some info. that Bobmitmen found). If you do need to flash back, you can use ASUS's BIOS update utility version 6.10.02 here, which allows you to flash an older BIOS. Now that you have the BIOS, let’s talk about the RAM.

ASUS apparently overvolts the RAM a bit in the BIOS. The latest info. I have read, shows a linear overvoltage of about .057v. So your BIOS settings and actual voltage to the RAM would look like this:

BIOS Actual --- BIOS Actual
1.80v = 1.857v --- 2.02v = 2.077v
1.82v = 1.877v --- 2.04v = 2.097v
1.84v = 1.897v --- 2.06v = 2.177v
1.86v = 1.917v --- 2.08v = 2.137v
1.88v = 1.937v --- 2.10v = 2.157v ---- BIOS Actual
1.90v = 1.957v --- 2.12v = 2.177v ---- 2.24v = 2.297v (max spec. for my RAM)
1.92v = 1.977v --- 2.14v = 2.197v
1.94v = 1.997v --- 2.16v = 2.217v
1.96v = 2.017v --- 2.18v = 2.237v
1.98v = 2.037v --- 2.20v = 2.257v
2.00v = 2.057v --- 2.22v = 2.277v

I even read one test somewhere, where the BIOS setting was .24v less than the actual voltage to the RAM which would drastically change the chart above, so I would recommend starting on the conservative side (like 1.86v). I would recommend starting your DRAM voltage testing at 1.86v and move up from there (if your RAM is 2.2v RAM like mine). To test your RAM accurately, there is a new version of MemTest86+ that recognizes the X38 chipset correctly. Download the ISO version of it here. The DRAM timings may also need to be set manually. My RAM, running at 1066Mhz is spec’ed for 5-5-5-15 2T and 4-4-4-12 2T at 800Mhz. Make sure you run MemTest for at least 2-3 full cycles before you conclude that your RAM timings and voltage are set correctly (I have had the first test cycle come out fine, but the second pass started showing errors, so I had to change settings). If you can’t get the RAM to test well at the factory specs, try relaxing the timings a little (say 5-5-5-18 which I have seen some people have success with, then try tightening them up from there). You may want/need to relax some of the secondary timings as well. I read a post where the default secondary was 3-42-6-3 and what finally worked was 10-42-6-10 (which is quite relaxed).


For OS installation, if you have 4 sticks of RAM like I do, I would recommend installing your OS with just two sticks of RAM. Once you have your OS installed, working, and stable; add the other two sticks of RAM. If you start getting system instability (and NOTHING else has changed) after adding the two additional sticks, you know where the problem is right away. Often you will need to increase your NorthBridge voltage if you use all 4 sticks of RAM. I would recommend taking the voltage up two steps and then test and move up from there if needed. Some reports I have read where people have set it to as much as 1.63v, but most seem to work at somewhere between 1.3v and 1.4v.

Last, I'll look at RAID. I'm running two 500GB WD HD's using the built-in Intel Matrix RAID. I have had multiple, wierd crashes that have actually broken the RAID many times. It looks like this is also a RAM problem. I have more info. on RAID toward the end of this thread (when I actually got my board back from ASUS).

Well, that’s it. I hope this is helpful to everyone and get’s your P5E working the way it is supposed to, esp. with 1066Mhz RAM!

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

quindi quelli sarebbero i voltaggi reali che spara la mb?!?!?

[peppoz91]

Originariamente inviato da Andrea deluxe

ne hai 4x1gb oppure 2x1gb?

tieni in consideraziuone che io 4x1gb ballistix 1066mhz 5 5 5 15 non le riuscivo a tenere nemmeno a def. 800mhz con 2.3v

ne ho 2x1gb

p.s cosa vuol dire quel bios actual?Comunque cosa mi consigliate di fare???Le mando in rma?

[Kharonte85]

Originariamente inviato da pirus

quindi quelli sarebbero i voltaggi reali che spara la mb?!?!?

Cosi' pare, io direi di tenerlo presente (se non di metterlo in prima pag) anche se praticamente si va a fiducia ...il post è recente...e comunque è un po' che c'era il forte sospetto...

Originariamente inviato da peppoz91

p.s cosa vuol dire quel bios actual?Comunque cosa mi consigliate di fare???Le mando in rma?

significa valore impostato dal Bios e valore "Reale"...


se hai fatto tutte le prove non resta altro da fare...

[peppoz91]

ma impostando su auto quanto spara la mobo?

[Kharonte85]

Originariamente inviato da peppoz91

ma impostando su auto quanto spara la mobo?

Lo sa il C...




















....ostruttore....

Penso gli 1,80v ma non lo so...

[Danielem]

Originariamente inviato da doom3.it

Montate sul pc in firma nessun problema devi settarle in manuale la p5b mette dei timing conservatori

Hemm si ma io vorrei prendere una p5E non B è la stessa cosa? come dovrei settarle?

[pirus]

Originariamente inviato da peppoz91

ne ho 2x1gb

p.s cosa vuol dire quel bios actual?Comunque cosa mi consigliate di fare???Le mando in rma?

se le hai tenute a 2.2 da bios hanno fatto la stessa fine delle mie mi sa!

[peppoz91]

Originariamente inviato da pirus

se le hai tenute a 2.2 da bios hanno fatto la stessa fine delle mie mi sa!

quindi rma? Che problemi dovrei segnalare?

[pirus]

io ho segnalato che da quando l'ho montate hanno dato grosse noie con riavvi continui e schermate blu, ho anche specificato che sono state provate su diverse configurazione hw e su qualche scheda madre non facevano neanche partire il pc! Siano esse asus, o dfi o gigabyte!

[X666X]

avrei voglia di sostituire le ram che leggete in firma con una di queste due alternative:

1 - Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX

2 - Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF


ovviamente sn più orientato sulle seconde, ma volevo sapere da qualcuno di voi se ci sono problemi di compatibilità

[firstcolle]

per i voltaggi delle ram bisognerebbe vedere con i nuovi bios come si comporta...

io per esemio ho le corsair 2x2ghz 6400 e come voltaggio ufficiale hanno 1.8v... credo che fino a 2 non ci siano problemi...

per ora mi sono accontentato di portarle da 5-5-5-18 a 4-4-4-15 sepmre 800mhz e voltaggio a deffoult e non sembrano dare problemi...

[+Lonewolf+]

Originariamente inviato da firstcolle

per i voltaggi delle ram bisognerebbe vedere con i nuovi bios come si comporta...

io per esemio ho le corsair 2x2ghz 6400 e come voltaggio ufficiale hanno 1.8v... credo che fino a 2 non ci siano problemi...

per ora mi sono accontentato di portarle da 5-5-5-18 a 4-4-4-15 sepmre 800mhz e voltaggio a deffoult e non sembrano dare problemi...

se sono le corsair xms2 dhx allora le puoi tranquillamente mettere anche a 900mhz con latenze basse tipo 5-5-5-15