[Aspettando] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

[fraussantin]

Not bad, ma io sono tradizionalista , preferisco accattarmi le mappe magari con quest obbligatorie.magari anche la bussola va accattata.

[cronos1990]

Originariamente inviato da Kaio2

In pratica la fluidità di una cartolina

Le cartoline non hanno tearing ed offrono una costanza di FPS che qualunque PC del mondo se la sogna la notte

[ulukaii]

Originariamente inviato da Sealea

l'immagine per me è anche ritoccata...

Ne dubito, ma se fosse non è che han fatto un gran lavoro, anzi... grass-meshes con texture slavate e quasi monocromatiche, aliasing generale, assenza di qualsivoglia POM, alberi sulla distanza che paiono acquarellati, luce in tutta la scena è abbastanza sottotono (in particolare sui girasoli al centro che sono un pugno in un occhio), accanto a loro (sulla sinistra) si nota il busto senza gambe di un omino in LOD sulla distanza, c'è anche una specie di effetto distorsione a destra sull'omino seduto sulla panca (è deformato).

Se questo non bastasse, mettendola in negativo non si notano effetti di ritocco o tagli, almeno di averci lavorato veramente bene, ma tenendo in considerazione anche quanto detto sopra ne dubito fortemente, altrimenti sarebbero stati corretti almeno alcuni artefatti. In particolare c'è un taglio verticale, sull'angolo a destra della casa (dove c'è l'omino seduto), in negativo si nota, ma ciò che lo circonda (e la vegetazione) non appare alterata ed è coerente con il resto, quindi è proprio la mesh dell'edificio che ha la texture non applicata correttamente lungo l'intersezione (roba che avrebbero ritoccato in photoshop prima di postare l'immagine se realmente avessero avuto intenzione di farlo).

Per me lo screen è reale e non è nemmeno tutto questo granché. Non che mi importi più di tanto della grafica, sono ben altre le cose che prendo prima in considerazione in un titolo e queste non sono valutabili da uno screen.

[topgun90]

Ne dubito, ma se fosse non è che han fatto un gran lavoro, anzi... grass-meshes con texture slavate e quasi monocromatiche, aliasing generale, assenza di qualsivoglia POM, alberi sulla distanza che paiono acquarellati, luce in tutta la scena è abbastanza sottotono (in particolare sui girasoli al centro che sono un pugno in un occhio), accanto a loro (sulla sinistra) si nota il busto senza gambe di un omino in LOD sulla distanza, c'è anche una specie di effetto distorsione a destra sull'omino seduto sulla panca (è deformato).

Se questo non bastasse, mettendola in negativo non si notano effetti di ritocco o tagli, almeno di averci lavorato veramente bene, ma tenendo in considerazione anche quanto detto sopra ne dubito fortemente, altrimenti sarebbero stati corretti almeno alcuni artefatti. In particolare c'è un taglio verticale, sull'angolo a destra della casa (dove c'è l'omino seduto), in negativo si nota, ma ciò che lo circonda (e la vegetazione) non appare alterata ed è coerente con il resto, quindi è proprio la mesh dell'edificio che ha la texture non applicata correttamente lungo l'intersezione (roba che avrebbero ritoccato in photoshop prima di postare l'immagine se realmente avessero avuto intenzione di farlo).

Per me lo screen è reale e non è nemmeno tutto questo granché. Non che mi importi più di tanto della grafica, sono ben altre le cose che prendo prima in considerazione in un titolo e queste non sono valutabili da uno screen.

[cronos1990]

Originariamente inviato da ulukaii

Ne dubito, ma se fosse non è che han fatto un gran lavoro, anzi... grass-meshes con texture slavate e quasi monocromatiche, aliasing generale, assenza di qualsivoglia POM, alberi sulla distanza che paiono acquarellati, luce in tutta la scena è abbastanza sottotono (in particolare sui girasoli al centro che sono un pugno in un occhio), accanto a loro (sulla sinistra) si nota il busto senza gambe di un omino in LOD sulla distanza, c'è anche una specie di effetto distorsione a destra sull'omino seduto sulla panca (è deformato).

Se questo non bastasse, mettendola in negativo non si notano effetti di ritocco o tagli, almeno di averci lavorato veramente bene, ma tenendo in considerazione anche quanto detto sopra ne dubito fortemente, altrimenti sarebbero stati corretti almeno alcuni artefatti. In particolare c'è un taglio verticale, sull'angolo a destra della casa (dove c'è l'omino seduto), in negativo si nota, ma ciò che lo circonda (e la vegetazione) non appare alterata ed è coerente con il resto, quindi è proprio la mesh dell'edificio che ha la texture non applicata correttamente lungo l'intersezione (roba che avrebbero ritoccato in photoshop prima di postare l'immagine se realmente avessero avuto intenzione di farlo).

Per me lo screen è reale e non è nemmeno tutto questo granché. Non che mi importi più di tanto della grafica, sono ben altre le cose che prendo prima in considerazione in un titolo e queste non sono valutabili da uno screen.

Concordo. Quello sembra uno screen di gioco cui sono stati tolti tutti gli effetti grafici.

[Kaider]

Ma perchè hanno tolte le carte delle donnine

[cronos1990]

Originariamente inviato da Kaider

Ma perchè hanno tolte le carte delle donnine

Tiè, accontentati di questo
http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...7cdde4d3.shtml

Ti stampi le foto, le attacchi a dei cartoncini rigidi con abbondante colla vinilica ed hai creato le carte delle donnine "Fatte in casa"

[capitan_crasy]

Originariamente inviato da cronos1990

Tiè, accontentati di questo
http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...7cdde4d3.shtml

Ti stampi le foto, le attacchi a dei cartoncini rigidi con abbondante colla vinilica ed hai creato le carte delle donnine "Fatte in casa"

Le star dell’hard, dal collo in su???

Qualcuno banni quel uomo!!!

[duffyduck]

Originariamente inviato da gaxel

Kindom Come: Deliverance dovrebbe essere quello che cerchi...

sembra interessante

vedo di informarmi bene sul gioco e grazie per l'indicazione visto che non è la prima volta che mi dai delle dritte ottime!

[jotaro75]

Originariamente inviato da cronos1990

Tiè, accontentati di questo
http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...7cdde4d3.shtml

Ti stampi le foto, le attacchi a dei cartoncini rigidi con abbondante colla vinilica ed hai creato le carte delle donnine "Fatte in casa"

meglio non sapere come produrre la "colla vinilica" in questo caso

[Ale55andr0]

Originariamente inviato da ulukaii

alberi sulla distanza che paiono acquarellati

yep, lo dicevo che erano poco cortecciosi

per confronto, questo è quanto si vede nel video da 35 min

http://imgur.com/28OctfA

[andry18]

Originariamente inviato da Ale55andr0

yep, lo dicevo che erano poco cortecciosi

per confronto, questo è quanto si vede nel video da 35 min

http://imgur.com/28OctfA

credo sia tutto merito della tesselation

[ulukaii]

Originariamente inviato da andry18

credo sia tutto merito della tesselation

No, in quello screen lì penso più semplicemente a parallax piuttosto.

[Bestio]

Originariamente inviato da cronos1990

Tiè, accontentati di questo
http://www.corriere.it/foto-gallery/...7cdde4d3.shtml

Ti stampi le foto, le attacchi a dei cartoncini rigidi con abbondante colla vinilica ed hai creato le carte delle donnine "Fatte in casa"

Almeno avessero scritto i nomi correttamente, che giornalisti ignoranti!

Comunque anche a me vecchio la raccolta delle carte piaceva, anzi direi che è stata l'unica raccolta di collezionabili che abbia mai completato in un gioco.

[dStefano93]

Just bought and downloaded the pdf version of the newest gamestar magazine. It was written by a guy who played the game for 2 whole days without any limitations. I want to share some of his impressions and new information. There are also tons of new screens (including a pic of the skilltree), but I think I'm not allowed to post them here (correct me If I'm wrong)

- since the january hands-on they heavily enhanced the combat. It's extremly fluent, accurate and comprehensible now. (with a gamepad, mouse and keyboard is still a bit squishy, but CD Prject Red promised to correct it till release)

- after fighting with a gamepad, he used a mouse, which automatically changed the on-screen display. He praises the comfort to use a gamepad during combat/exploring and a mouse in the menus.

-difficulties (easy, normal, hard, dark) are always changeaable. The difficulty changes the enemy intelligence (for example monsters evade less often on the lower difficulties) but not the hitpoints

- a lot of customization, including the deactivation of quest-markers and points of interest markers. You can even experience Geralt's adventure completely without any on-screen display

- Bargaining with people about monster- hunting rewards will be done in a minigame. There will be a seperate window, in which you type the gold you want. At the same time you can see how angry the npc is. if you overdo it he/she will cancel the negotiation and you have to accept the minimum reward.

- kaer morhen and surroundings are about as big as the prologue area. (4-5 hours of gameplay)

- horse items: saddlebag (more space) , blinders (less chance to be dropped off the horse), sattle (determinates the horse stamina)

- heavy usage of the surroundigs. For example the gamestar guy met a enemy with a skull symbol (too difficult to fight) There was a hive nearby. He shot it with the crossbow-> the bees attacked the enemy and he run off
Generally he praises the small details. Geralt can blow down bottles, break fences or even make blinds swing with his aard sign
He mentions how impressed he was, when Roach randomly ate a apple from a upset basket with apples

- the boat has a damage-model ( didn't say anything about if it's visual)

- a lot of choices with huge consequences

-There is a quest:

- we will spent between 5-10 hours playing Ciri (no character development while playing her, whole focus on the story)
Ciri can blink, There will be even more powerful abilities later

- there will be 5-6 smaller, more linear regions during the story.He saw two of this regions (not kaer morhen or orchard village), but doesn't want to spoil them, because they are very different visually and it seem's also huge story spoilers.

-only three bugs during this 2 days


Conclusion:
[....]"My two days with Geralt were one of the most beautiful, most exciting and overwhelming experiences I have experienced in my 33 years gaming life"

Source: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threa...=1#post1571532

Mentre qua l'articolo relativo, in tedesco, di Gamestar. In più, a breve, su Twitch l'autore dell'articolo farà un Q&A sul gioco.

[ThePonz]

Originariamente inviato da dStefano93

He mentions how impressed he was, when Roach randomly ate a apple from a upset basket with apples

ahah bellissimo

e magari dopo pure il mercante incazzato che chiama le guardie

[JuanCarlos]

Hands on della versione Xbox One, non si vede molto, ma se interessa:

Hands on TW3 Xbox One

[michelgaetano]

Just bought and downloaded the pdf version of the newest gamestar magazine. It was written by a guy who played the game for 2 whole days without any limitations. I want to share some of his impressions and new information. There are also tons of new screens (including a pic of the skilltree), but I think I'm not allowed to post them here (correct me If I'm wrong)

- since the january hands-on they heavily enhanced the combat. It's extremly fluent, accurate and comprehensible now. (with a gamepad, mouse and keyboard is still a bit squishy, but CD Prject Red promised to correct it till release)

- after fighting with a gamepad, he used a mouse, which automatically changed the on-screen display. He praises the comfort to use a gamepad during combat/exploring and a mouse in the menus.

-difficulties (easy, normal, hard, dark) are always changeaable. The difficulty changes the enemy intelligence (for example monsters evade less often on the lower difficulties) but not the hitpoints

- a lot of customization, including the deactivation of quest-markers and points of interest markers. You can even experience Geralt's adventure completely without any on-screen display

- Bargaining with people about monster- hunting rewards will be done in a minigame. There will be a seperate window, in which you type the gold you want. At the same time you can see how angry the npc is. if you overdo it he/she will cancel the negotiation and you have to accept the minimum reward.

- kaer morhen and surroundings are about as big as the prologue area. (4-5 hours of gameplay)

- horse items: saddlebag (more space) , blinders (less chance to be dropped off the horse), sattle (determinates the horse stamina)

- heavy usage of the surroundigs. For example the gamestar guy met a enemy with a skull symbol (too difficult to fight) There was a hive nearby. He shot it with the crossbow-> the bees attacked the enemy and he run off
Generally he praises the small details. Geralt can blow down bottles, break fences or even make blinds swing with his aard sign
He mentions how impressed he was, when Roach randomly ate a apple from a upset basket with apples

- the boat has a damage-model ( didn't say anything about if it's visual)

- a lot of choices with huge consequences

-There is a quest:

- there will be 5-6 smaller, more linear regions during the story.He saw two of this regions (not kaer morhen or orchard village), but doesn't want to spoil them, because they are very different visually and it seem's also huge story spoilers.

-only three bugs during this 2 days


Conclusion:
[....]"My two days with Geralt were one of the most beautiful, most exciting and overwhelming experiences I have experienced in my 33 years gaming life"

Originariamente inviato da dStefano93

Source: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threa...=1#post1571532

Mentre qua l'articolo relativo, in tedesco, di Gamestar. In più, a breve, su Twitch l'autore dell'articolo farà un Q&A sul gioco.

No no no no ragazzi, così non va bene

Stavamo finalmente risollevando il treno del downgrade demolendo erba, sassi e cortecce di quella chiavica di screen in 4k pari a tutto disattivato e che pure un team di scimmie sapeva fare di meglio, e voi ve ne uscite con questa roba?

Ma l'avete letto il nome del sito? Dove credete di stare postando? Vi si deve insegnare a stare al mondo proprio


















Tornando seri...

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Originariamente inviato da ThePonz

ahah bellissimo

e magari dopo pure il mercante incazzato che chiama le guardie

È quel genere di dettagli che apprezzo tantissimo, perché pure a non spostare assolutamente niente nell'economia del gioco, contribuisce a rendere il mondo di gioco più vivo e credibile - cosa che di solito han sempre fatto bene

Originariamente inviato da JuanCarlos

Hands on della versione Xbox One, non si vede molto, ma se interessa:

Hands on TW3 Xbox One

È il video da cui ho postato quella carina mappa stilizzata qualche pagina fa, non l'ho postato perché tolta quella di nuovo non c'era molto - se non nulla.

In sostanza un ad gigante dove hai i vari inviati di marketing murrigano a gasarsi e infine a rispondere alla domanda "dove lo giocherete?" con "Xbox!" "Beh, Xbox!, "Xbox, dove sennò?", "Xbox, ti cura il cancro e ti fa pure il caffè"

[michelgaetano]

Alcuni utenti sul forum CDP hanno riassunto e tradutto la Q&A del tipo dell'articolo tedesco.

Qui il link al VOD (andrà down dopo pochi giorni, solitamente) se masticate crucco, di seguito i post riassuntivi (della roba si ripete, devo ancora finire di leggere)

1.

• you cannot enter every house in Novigrad but it's cleverly masked if you can't enter one
• no button for opening doors anymore, all doors are swinging doors
• extremely lively interiors, every interior tells a different story
• fluid gameplay on 1080p with everything on maximum +nvidia hairworks on GTX 980 -> looks insanely good for an open world game
• two big cities with Novigrad and Oxenfurt (which is really big as well)
• there are towns in the game of the same size of Flotsam
• cities have a realistic eco-system and surroundings with real suburb parts in which craftsmen are located like in medieval times
• last active skill-slot at level 50, level cap could be even higher
• relationsships to women feel organic
• whole world feels quite realisitic and organic
• gameplay feels very good and fluid
• diving is still not optimal in terms of controls, but you can dive everywhere
• gamepad controls are apparently much better than mouse/keyboard according to the journalist (m/k on TW2 level)
• it's still too easy to rob people, robbing system in general is lacking
• whole game is consequently open world so pacing could be difficult for some
• passages with Ciri are like a linear action-adventure, not like a RPG, plays differently and more action-fueled than Geralt's passages
• side quests are great and each tells its own story with people actually reacting to Geralt
• sound and subtitles can be combined freely from different available languages
• there will definitely be a day-one patch
• high grade of visual violence with dismemberments with a higher gore-level than TW1 or TW2, but still feels organic and consistent
• items can be crafted and decomposed
• best items in game must be crafted
• Novigrad and No man's land are connected, only seperated maps, only loading time between main land and Skellige
• Novigrad+No man's land are much bigger than Skyrim alone
• game world can change based on your decisions
• there was indeed no slider or adjustment option for the draw distance/LOD but according to the journalist he was happy with it
• there is the cleverly constructed illusion of a realistic world but traveling is never boring and there is always something to discover
• even if you disable markers for quest givers on the map the game gives you audio-visual hints like people screaming for help
• the journalist never had the feeling that the world is "empty"
• no sudden changes of environments (e.g. desert to humid regions), organic and consistent world
• "sandbox elements" and random stuff is limited, so no fights of townpeople against dragons like in Skyrim, you can only influence the world to a certain level
• as far as the journalist has experienced it there will be little to no enemy respawning, enemies haven returned during his two days in the game
• the game is open world but actually almost everything is "controlled" and "planned" by the developers
  
• many things are commented by Geralt e.g. when he tracks down leads with the Witcher senses
• mutagens can be very powerful, like 40% damage enhancer for signs
• very different enemy types that feel and play differently
• no "clone" NPCs, every NPC in Novigrad for example looks differently
• every potion and bomb must only brewed/crafted once
• potions have different quality levels, can be improved, e.g. Swallow can offer more healing and more slots
• crafting is extensive
• you can for example increase the inventory limitations of your horse by crafting bigger saddle bags but you must actually go to your horse to be able to have access to these bags
• every region has its own color setting and feel
• clouds cast shadows
• bad weather like storms can happen everywhere
• game loading time is extremely short on the high-end PC
• saving and loading times are also extremely short
• some huge buildings and story-relevant special areas have loading times, normal buildings not
• story branching in quests is excessive and impressive with not always "transparent" or easily visible effects, for example one quest had six "decisive" elements that could have gone down in a different way if the journalist behaved differently
• "it will be impossible to play Witcher 3 two times in exactly the same way"
• different to Bioware games dialogue options are not "obvious" and every possibility makes kind of sense, no sign whether an answer is "good" or "bad", only quest relevant options are marked (opposite to chatter and non-quest related dialogue options)
• due to the complex way of story branching it's difficult to find times and locations where "things went wrong" if you want to develop your game in a different way
• Ghwent is awesome according to the journalist, great design and entertaining
• fist fighting is without QTEs now, it's just like normal fighting with hard and fast strikes and such
• there are now negotiations for quest rewards like bargaining for a monster hunt (before and after quests?)
• there are horseraces similar to RDR, biggest focus on stamina management during races, you can even buy better saddles for horseraces
• every item you choose is visible on Geralt's ingame model
• you can enter and play whatever region you want but you get hints where to start by your main quest (e.g. search Ciri in Novigrad's surroundings) if you want enemies that are on a similar level to yourself, but it's up to the player how he wants to progress
• soundtrack was good, but neither really negative nor outstanding, but dynamic and decent, fits to the situation and location
• some reactions from NPCs to things you did, but rather small comments, journalist admitted that he didn't play the game long enough for probably bigger reactions
• tutorials are integrated into the story/progression and worth the effort due to good dialogues
• resolution on Xbox One will definitely stay at 900p in order to offer a stable performance
• the game is really immersive and "drags you in", feels and plays a lot more fuildly than the predecessors without being less complex
• there is a chance that they won't be able to hold the level until the end of the game (speculation since two days were surely not enough to get to the end) but the journalist was truly and deeply impressed by what he saw and played

2.

- journalist played 10-12 hours, had full access to the game and reached level 7
-Not all buildings in Novgrad are accessible
-Oxenfurt is as big as the biggest cities in Skyrim (whatever that means)
- Last (12th) skill slot unlocked at Level 50
- Level 24 Wyvern one-shotted level 7 Geralt
- KB & M controls still WIP and feels at the moment like W2
- Combat with gamepad very intuitive and fluid; feels like Dark Souls
- Potions play a more important role than in previous games
- Ultra settings are impressive, especially the rich vegetation and character models; there can be scenes where difference between high and ultra won't be that noticeable; lighting is impressive: for instance evening light falling on vast flower fields of a parfum-maker
- criticism: KB & M control not as good as gamepad; NPC don't react to theft by Geralt (only guards do); diving still a bit "clunky"
- there will be a day one patch
- game is already at Sony & MS for admission
- feels more ready and complete than W1 & W2 at their respective release
- side quests: very divers, each tells its own story and are also non-linear; story-writing is excellent
- played as Ciri: Ciri sequences have to be unlocked; gameplay feels very different ,more like an action adventure than a RPG (no inventory, no skill tree, depending on the scene Ciri has certain skills)
- German localization is very good, but English version is better (especially Geralt's voice)
- Diving: you can dive everywhere
- the most powerful items of the game have to be crafted
- Draw-distance: no special setting in the options, but it was already very good in-game
- real-time cloud shadows are in
- weather-system is impressive (damn, I really wanna see it in action already!)
- surprisingly short loading/start-up times

3.

• The Combat is similar to Dark Souls but faster
• Each Enemy/Monster acts different than the other
• Graphic (ultra) is noticeable. The Foliage increases a lot. Some scenes looks better than others.
• The Game is much better polished than its predecessors (less bugs)
• The Sidequests have their own stories. There are a lot of differents themes (like rape, kidnappings, etc.) // can't remember what else
• Ciri play quite differently than Geralt, it's more Action Adventure than RPG.
• The Game has more Loot than it's predecessors.
• If you kill enemies/monsters (in the open world) they won't respawns unless there is a condition you have to fulfill.
• The Quests aren't random, they appear on the same spot
• There are no clone NPC's (at least you don't notice it), they look different form another.

4.

- Geralts beard will grow. You have to go to a barbier after a few days
- There is a negotiation Minigame where you negotiate Rewards for e.g Monster Hunts
- Even Side quests have branching storys with sometimes multiple choices
- Novigrad and No mans Land is ONE Map only Skellige is seperated. As are smaller Story hubs.
- Load times are ridicoulisly fast compared to other modern open world games(On PC at least)
- the best Items in the Game need to be crafted
- The Card game is claimed to be awesome with 3 Card decks wich are actually collectable
- He encountered only 3 minor Bugs during 2 Days. No Crash. No Freeze
- There are around 25 "villages" in No mans land and Novigrad . Many are the size of Flotsam!!
- Two Big Cities: Oxenfurt and Novigrad. Both are huge and lively
- Roach is youre storage. You can even buy new saddles for more stamina or more storage
- Fist fighting is the same combat system as sword fighting no QTE
- you visit Kear Morhen multiple Times. after the Tutorial it even has the sorrounding area equal the size of the Starting Area
- The Game is finished. Even Bug fixing. Its all optimization and performance now
- The World is full with content. Everywhere you look there is something to find. yet NO simple fetch quests.
- Ultra increases vegetation. Yes even grass!
- Most dynamic/impressive Weather System the reporter has ever seen.

Non prendete tutto come il santo graal, ad esempio il tipo nel penultimo post aveva scritto che la versione PC ha una sua "griglia" ma sappiamo che l'interfaccia è unificata.

Su neogaf devono aver rippato gli screen dalla rivista ma sul forum CDP non possono postare, ora guardo cosa c'è lì.

[michelgaetano]

Altri punti interessanti (questa volta da reddit)

• A thing that he really appreciated and I liked very well as well is the importance of logic and consistency of the game world to the developers. This shows in small things like, killing a wolf will never drop a weapon but killing an enemy equiped with an axe has a high chance of dropping an axe as well. Or for instance there is absolutely no limit on where you can dive, even though on some place there is absolutely nothing to dive for but just to keep the consistency you can still dive.
  
  
• During his 2 days(not just playing, he also was able to just free fly through the world and things like that) he encountered 3 bugs. One was a savefile that couldn't be loaded but was fixed with a restart of the game. The second was a locked camera during a fight once and the third was a horse that somehow ended up on top of a pillar.
  
  
• On the topic of monster hunts. While in itself they are pretty cool a very interesting fact about it was the rewards. In fact you gain mutagens from the big monster hunting quests which can be used in a as it sounded a little bit more complex manner. One way to use them is to increase your skills which can give you at the highest level of combination of skills and mutagens a significant increase of your skills. They are also used in high-tier potions. To conclude, the mutagens are pretty useful and thus the monster hunting quests are more than just cool quests.
  
  
• On the topic of sidequests and decisions, Witcher 3 has in contrast to other games no problem of denying you content based on your decisions. For instance in one sidequest you could choose to enter a brawl of soldiers of some sort and if you did not an entire dungeon is completely denied to you for this playthrough. Also very interesting, the decisions and consequences are not as obvious as in Witcher 2 where at the end or the beginning of a chapter you had to choose between one or the other. In the Witcher 3 it is way more integrated into the gameplay and "every-day" decisions. As he summarized it: It will be impossible to have the same playthrough twice.