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#6061 |
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Iscritto dal: Jun 2003
Città: Ferrara
Messaggi: 5947
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grazie. Ehi sei anche t di ferrara!!!
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Messaggi: 24168
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The Inquirer: Indiscrezioni performance Phenom!
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#6063 | |
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Messaggi: 24168
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OCW: Nessun vantaggio fra HT 1.0 e HT 3.0?
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#6064 |
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Messaggi: 24168
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OCW: Review della Jetway PA77GTA-VT con chipset AMD 770!
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#6065 |
Bannato
Iscritto dal: Sep 2003
Città: Monza (Terrassa - Barcelona - España)
Messaggi: 7610
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![]() Ke bello anke questa mobo potrá arrivare ad avere un ht3 a 5200 |
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#6066 | |
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2006
Città: Milano
Messaggi: 7142
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![]() ![]() ![]() speriamo in overclock in stile c2d!! Probabilmente se le prestazioni dovessero essere davvero quelle descritte e se in overclock superano i 3ghz senza particolari pb un bel 9600 sarà mio! ![]()
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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soprattutto non mi aspetterei cose fuori dalla norma dai primi usciti, sicuramente tra qualche mese le cose miglioreranno Quote:
poi per quanto riguarda l'OC, ok, è un problema, ma non riguarda una percentuale di utenti così tanto ampia, per AMD ora conta fare soldi, tornare ad avere margini e tornare a fare profitti |
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#6068 |
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Iscritto dal: Jan 2002
Città: Urbino (PU)
Messaggi: 31753
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M3A32-MVP Deluxe
CPU, Chipset and Graphics Features
Supports AMD® Socket AM2+ Phenom™ FX / Phenom X4 / Phenom X2 / Athlon™ X2 / Sempron™ This motherboard supports AMD AMD® Socket AM2+ multi-core processors with unique L3 cache and delivers better overclocking capabilities with less power consumption. It features dual-channel DDR2 1066 memory support and accelerates data transfer rate up to 5200MT/s via HyperTransport™ 3.0 based system bus. Supports AMD Socket AM2 Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64/ Sempron This motherboard supports AMD® Socket AM2 single-core Athlon™ 64 / Sempron™ and dual-core Athlon™ 64 X2 / Athlon™ 64 FX processors with 2MB / 1MB / 512KB L2 cache based on 64-bit architecture. It features 2000 / 1600 MT/s HyperTransport™-based system bus, dual-channel un-buffered DDR2 800 memory support, and AMD® Cool ‘n’ Quiet™ Technology. AMD 790FX Chipset AMD 790FX Chipset is designed to support up to 5200MT/s HyperTransport™ 3.0 (HT 3.0) interface speed and quad PCI Express™ 2.0 x16 graphics. It is optimized with AMD latest AM2+ and multi-core CPUs to provide excellent system performance and overclocking capabilities. HyperTransport 3.0 Support Latest System Bus Technology Provides 2.6 times more bandwidth than HT1.0 that radically improves system efficiency for a smoother, faster computing environment. Native DDR2 1066 Support The First Native DDR2-1066 AMD Platform This motherboard is the first AMD® platform with native DDR2 1066 support. It provides faster data transfer rate and more bandwidth to increase memory data transfer rate and computing efficiency, enhancing system performance in 3D graphics and other memory demanding applications. *DDR2 1066 is supported by some of the AM2+ CPUs only. Refer to www.asus.com for the supported CPU models. ATI CrossFireX™ Technology ATI’s CrossFireX™ boosts image quality along with rendering speed, eliminating the need to scale down screen resolution to get high quality images. CrossFireX™ allows higher anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, shading, and texture settings. Adjust your display configurations, experiment with the advanced 3D settings, and check the effects with a real-time 3D-rendered previews within ATI Catalyst™ Control Center. Multi-VGA support Quad CrossFire Ready for Excellent Graphics This motherboard is ready to support the advanced graphics standard, Quad CrossFire, which provides higher frame rates for superb graphics performance. It also provides full x16 dual lanes or triple VGA support. PCIe 2.0 support Double Speed; Double Bandwidth This motherboard supports the latest PCIe 2.0 devices for double speed and bandwidth which enhances system performance. ASUS Quiet Thermal Solution 8+2 Phase Power Design Longer Life & Higher Efficiency! ASUS 8+2 Phase Power Design, with independent power to vital components, ultimately enhances memory performance and ensures quick response and stability of CPU under heavy loading or overclocking modes. Stack Cool 2 Up to 20°C(68°F) Cooler ASUS Stack Cool 2 is a fan-less and zero-noise cooling solution that lowers the temperature of critical heat generating components. The motherboard uses a special design on the printed circuit board (PCB) to dissipate heat these critical components generate. AI Gear 2 Power Savings for Environment-Friendly Computing AI Gear 2 allows you to choose from profiles to adjust CPU frequency and vCore voltage, minimizing system noise and saving CPU power consumption at most. You can real-time change the mode under operating system to suit your needs. AI Nap Minimize noise and power consumption when temporarily away! With AI Nap, the system can continue running at minimum power and noise when you are temporarily away. To wake the system and return to the OS environment, simply click the mouse or press a key. ASUS Crystal Sound AI Audio 2 Unique Home Theater Technology on Board! It allows users to experience crisp, clear sounds by restoring and compensating for clarity and quality of compressed audio in all movies, music and games. It also provides users with stereo to multi-channel sound field expansion for realistic front and rear environments and virtualized surround sound for added vocal clarity when used in stereo speakers or headphones. Noise Filter Eliminate background noise while recording This feature detects repetitive and stationary noises (non-voice signals) like computer fans, air conditioners, and other background noises then eliminates it in the incoming audio stream while recording. ASUS EZ DIY ASUS Q-Shield Easy and Comfortable Installations The specially designed ASUS Q-Shield does without the usual “fingers”—making it convenient and easy to install. With better electric conductivity, it ideally protects your motherboard against static electricity and shields it against Electronic Magnetic Interference (EMI). ASUS Q-Connector Make connection quick and accurate! ASUS Q-Connector allows you to easily connect or disconnect the chassis front panel cables to the motherboard. This unique module eliminates the trouble of connecting the system panel cables one at a time and avoiding wrong cable connections ASUS O.C. Profile Conveniently store or load multiple BIOS settings The motherboard features the ASUS O.C. Profile that allows users to conveniently store or load multiple BIOS settings. The BIOS settings can be stored in the CMOS or a separate file, giving users freedom to share and distribute their favorite settings. ASUS CrashFree BIOS3 The ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3 allows users to restore corrupted BIOS data from a USB flash disk containing the BIOS file. This utility saves users the cost and hassle of buying a replacement BIOS chip. ASUS EZ Flash2 With ASUS EZ Flash, you can update BIOS before entering operating system. No more DOS-based flash utility and bootable diskette required. ASUS Overclocking Tools Precision Tweaker 2 Super-fine Adjustments for a Brand New O.C Record! Allows the user to adjust the NB Voltage, SB Voltage, and the DRAM Voltage in 0.02v steps to fine-tune voltages to achieve the most precise setting for the ultimate customized overclocking configuration. AI NOS™ Boost performance when you need it the most! The patented ASUS Non-delay Overclocking System™ (AI NOS™) technology auto‑-detects the CPU loading and dynamically overclocks the CPU speed when needed. Unlike other dynamic overclocking techniques, AI NOS™ reacts much faster to satisfy your need for speed. Other ASUS Features 100% All High-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors This motherboard uses all high-quality conductive polymer capacitors onboard for durability, improved lifespan, and enhanced thermal capacity. MyLogo2 Personalize your system with customizable boot logo You can convert your favorite photo into a 256-color boot logo for a more colorful and vivid image on your screen. Interface Features SATA on the Go This motherboard supports the next-generation hard drives based on the Serial ATA (SATA) 3Gb/s storage specification, delivering enhanced scalability and doubling the bus bandwidth for high-speed data retrieval and saves. The external SATA port located at the back I/O provides smart setup and hot-plug functions. Easily backup photos, videos and other entertainment contents on external devices. IEEE 1394a interface IEEE 1394a interface provides high speed digital interface for audio/video appliances such as digital television, digital video camcorders, storage peripherals & other PC portable devices. High Definition Audio The onboard 6-channel High Definition audio CODEC enables high-quality Realtek audio CODEC, which automatically detects and identifies what types of peripherals are plugged into the audio I/O jacks and notifies users of inappropriate connection, meaning there will be no more confusion of Line-in, Line-out and Mic jacks. S/PDIF-out on Back I/O Port This motherboard provides convenient connectivity to external home theater audio systems via coaxial and optical S/PDIF-out (SONY-PHILIPS Digital Interface) jacks. It allows to transfer digital audio without converting to analog format and keeps the best Da notare che sul sito ASUS per la M3A sono già disponibili per il download utility/bios/driver, manca solo il manuale, ci avrei voluto dare una occhiata, mentre per i modelli M3A32 non vi è assolutamente nulla. Complessivamente, sono pienamente d'accordo con il Capitano che la M3A è più economica e già ampiamente soddisfa per l'uso normale. L'unica cosa, mi sembra più curata la parte riguardante l'overclock con lo Stack Cool 2. Se magari si risparmiasse qualche ventila in più... la differenza di costo tra le 2 MB calerebbe.
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#6069 | |
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2007
Città: vagabondo
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#6070 |
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#6071 | |
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2007
Città: vagabondo
Messaggi: 4085
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Di solito, invece, in oc i processori raggiungono frequenze superiori anche ai processori di fascia alta ![]() O per lo meno, voglio sperare che i phenom raggiungano certe velocità in oc, altrimenti la vedo dura ![]()
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#6072 | |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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io non riesco a capire una cosa, se voi un processore da 2.3ghz riuscite a portarlo a 3ghz siete delusi? o forse stiamo parlando di due cose diverse, io cmq gente che tiene i core2quad a 3.2/3.4 non ne conosco molta, almeno nel campo della grafica, se poi sono smanettoni che ci fanno gli screenshot col 3dmark...allora... |
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#6073 | |
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Messaggi: 24168
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AMD sta pagando la compatibilità con il socket AM2. E' probabile che gli attuali Phenom sopra i 2.60Ghz non abbiano amperaggio sufficiente sul socket AM2,quindi per il momento AMD propone CPU con frequenza relativamente bassa. Può darsi che il Phenom FX a 2.60Ghz abbia il moltiplicatore sbloccato verso l'alto come succede al 5000+ Black edition, cioè lasciando all'utente finale la possibilità di avere una CPU quad core AMD con frequenza superiore a 3.0Ghz.
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#6074 | |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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![]() magari un phenom portato a 3ghz ha le prestazioni di un q6600 portato a 3.2 sei i dati rilasciati da amd sono veritieri più o meno ci siamo, siamo poco sopra a quel 4% che c'è tra un 2.3 e un 2.4 |
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#6075 | |
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2007
Città: vagabondo
Messaggi: 4085
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Ovvio che in campo professionale l'oc lo fanno in pochi ![]()
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#6076 |
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Iscritto dal: Oct 2005
Città: Milano
Messaggi: 1606
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Signori, dubbio amletico.
Il momento è catartico. ![]() ![]() ![]() Come mai AMD ha scelto la sigla 9500 come partenza della sua gamma, almeno al lancio? Poco fà mi sono saltati all'occhio i nuovi Penryn che verranno presentati a Gennaio: Core 2 Quad Q9550 45 4 2,83 GHz 12Mbytes 1.333 MHz Gen 2008 Core 2 Quad Q9450 45 4 2,66 GHz 12Mbytes 1.333 MHz Gen 2008 Core 2 Quad Q9300 45 4 2,50 GHz 6Mbytes 1.333 MHz Gen 2008 Non vedete nessuna analogia? ![]() QUELLI saranno i concorrenti di AMD, dato che il Q6600 uscirà di listino ed avrà pochissimo tempo di compresenza coi nuovi Phenom. Proprio casuale scegliere un 9500 come siglia per il nuovo Phenom? Se proprio vogliamo trovare un perchè a tutto, un 9500 guardate dove si va a collocare... ...sarebbe troppo bello però. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#6077 | |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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![]() ma sono mie fissazioni eh.... a parte le battute, non credo che ad amd ora importi delle nicchie, quella che descrivi tu è una nicchia e anche piuttosto ristretta secondo me p.s. un c2d (che poi sarebbe c2q) a 2.2 non esiste ![]() |
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#6078 | |
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Iscritto dal: Jun 2007
Messaggi: 326
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No aspetta un attimo, all'Amd hanno esperti di marketing che beccano 10,000$ al mese.....non possono aver fatto un errore o una legggerezza altrimenti correrebbero subito a cambiar nome.....la gente penserebbe il 9500 dell'Amd fa schifo confronto al 9500 della Intel. Tuttavia visti gli ultimissimi test non ufficiali mi vien da credere: O sono idioti o sono idioti. Il caso miracolato non lo prendo in cosiderazione per scaramanzia. |
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#6079 | |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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#6080 | |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Messaggi: 1464
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![]() la gente che ne capisce qualcosa è poca, la maggioranza arriverà al supermercato e dirà, questo è un 9500 quest'altro un 9550 e mi costa il triplo, ma sì prendo un 9500, chemmenefregammé ![]() |
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