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Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
Messaggi: 9
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Fastpath
Hi there all! Im a German guy working in italiy! Nice country and people here
So i need some help of you! I like playing in the internet very much, i play unreal tournament online. Now i just made the line with alice(alice 4 mega) and i noticed that my ping is about 120ms when i play... Its to high to play well I often saw threads in italian forums where other people talk about it, but i dont understand that much italy. So i need your help Please could you tell me what to do or to activate that i can play with better(lower)ping. I just saw that the offer "alice buisness" got the option to choose between two kind of lines: Interleaved or Fast... Damn, i want fast, but it seems to me that the offer is just for companies and not for private persons So i hope to hear from you, but i think italians are nice people(i work with much) and helpfully as well! Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi là tutti! Im un tipo tedesco che lavora in italiy! Paese de Nizza e la gente qui Prego potreste dirmi che cosa fare o attivare che potessi giocare con better(lower)ping. Ho visto appena che l'offerta "buisness della alice" ha convinto l'opzione per scegliere fra il genere due di linee: Interleaved o fast... Maledizione, desidero velocemente, ma sembra a me che l'offerta è giusta per le aziende e non per le persone riservateUltima modifica di Germanguy : 10-06-2006 alle 19:38. |
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Iscritto dal: Jan 2001
Città: Trento
Messaggi: 286
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Hi !
I have the same problem... I would like my adsl line set with fastpath but it seems not possible. I read in forums that some users got their adsl in fast mode because they called a lot of time the 187 call center and at the end they said yes. With the business offer you can get the fastpath but it's more expensive. I think you can subscrive a business contract even if you are a private person but I'm not sure.....so call the 187 and ask. Quote:
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2005
Messaggi: 993
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Alice adsl is absolutely not good for an online player. You should consider providers such as Tiscali (now the best adsl in italy if you are covered by their own network, if not they resell poor telecom adsl) http://adsl.tiscali.it , NGI, Fastweb. I have Tiscali 12mbit flat adsl. It has interleaved path, but it's faster then many fast path adsl. Rilevazione instradamento verso k-play.de [81.3.59.4] su un massimo di 30 punti di passaggio: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 213.205.24.16 3 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms 213.205.28.33 4 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms ge-4-1-0.mil11.ip.tiscali.it [213.205.25.65] 5 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms so-0-1-0.fra10.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.65] 6 30 ms 63 ms 37 ms so-1-2-0.core1.f.tiscali.de [213.200.65.18] 7 35 ms 35 ms 40 ms so-1-0-0.core3.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.122] 8 40 ms 35 ms 35 ms ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137] 9 40 ms 36 ms 30 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4] Rilevazione completata. Esecuzione di Ping k-play.de [81.3.59.4] con 32 byte di dati: Risposta da 81.3.59.4: byte=32 durata=35ms TTL=56 Risposta da 81.3.59.4: byte=32 durata=40ms TTL=56 Risposta da 81.3.59.4: byte=32 durata=30ms TTL=56 Risposta da 81.3.59.4: byte=32 durata=34ms TTL=56 Statistiche Ping per 81.3.59.4: Pacchetti: Trasmessi = 4, Ricevuti = 4, Persi = 0 (0% persi), Tempo approssimativo percorsi andata/ritorno in millisecondi: Minimo = 30ms, Massimo = 40ms, Medio = 34ms Rilevazione instradamento verso maya.ngi.it [88.149.128.3] su un massimo di 30 punti di passaggio: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms 213.205.24.16 3 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms 213.205.28.33 4 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms ge-4-1-0.mil11.ip.tiscali.it [213.205.25.65] 5 21 ms 19 ms 21 ms so-2-0-3.mil19.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.65] 6 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms inet-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.68.22] 7 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 212.239.110.46 8 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms shield1-ext.net.ngi.it [81.174.0.246] 9 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms maya.ngi.it [88.149.128.3] Rilevazione completata. Esecuzione di Ping maya.ngi.it [88.149.128.3] con 32 byte di dati: Risposta da 88.149.128.3: byte=32 durata=21ms TTL=56 Risposta da 88.149.128.3: byte=32 durata=21ms TTL=56 Risposta da 88.149.128.3: byte=32 durata=20ms TTL=56 Risposta da 88.149.128.3: byte=32 durata=22ms TTL=56 Statistiche Ping per 88.149.128.3: Pacchetti: Trasmessi = 4, Ricevuti = 4, Persi = 0 (0% persi), Tempo approssimativo percorsi andata/ritorno in millisecondi: Minimo = 20ms, Massimo = 22ms, Medio = 21ms Ultima modifica di barbera : 11-06-2006 alle 21:45. |
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Junior Member
Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
Messaggi: 9
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well i just typed my number into the field and tested if its possible for me(the 4 mega line) heres the link to the page that shows up after testind: http://abbonati.tiscali.it/prodotti/.../640flat_voce/
What does it means now? would i still using the line of telecom italia? because if i wouldnt be covered of the tiscali network i dont need to do it, or not? And what about this site?: http://www.freefast.it/ Well tomorrow ill call 191(the number of alice buisness flat). maybe i can activate that "Fast"line.. Could u have a look if the offer is just for companies? http://www.191.it/cgi-bin/di_191/di/...peId=536891184 thank you! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- il pozzo i appena ha scritto il mio numero a macchina nel campo ed ha esaminato se il relativo possibile per la linea mega) del me(the 4 heres il collegamento alla pagina che rivela dopo testind: http://abbonati.tiscali.it/prodotti/.../640flat_voce/ Che cosa esso significa ora? io però che usando la linea dell'Italia di telecomunicazione? perché se il wouldnt di i è coperto della rete di tiscali io non debba farlo, oppure no? E che cosa circa questo luogo?: http://www.freefast.it/ Del pozzo numero malato di chiamata 191(the domani di buisness della alice piano). forse posso attivare quello "Fast"line.. Potrebbe la u avere uno sguardo se l'offerta è giusta per le aziende? http://www.191.it/cgi-bin/di_191/di/...peId=536891184 grazie! |
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Città: Pordenone - Tarvisio
Messaggi: 2451
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Never heard nothing about freefast.it, but i think they don't sell adsl lines. About a business line with 191. I f you're a private user you can't do a business line, it is not possible. You must have a business phone number. If you aren't covered by fastweb (www.fastweb.it) you can do NGI that is an adsl in wholesale telecom, but it is very well. My line (by NGI) 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms f5-adsl.gw [192.168.1.1] 2 30 ms 26 ms 26 ms xdsl-gw.net.ngi.it [81.174.0.1] 3 28 ms 27 ms 29 ms core1-v4.net.ngi.it [81.174.0.65] 4 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms shield1-ext.net.ngi.it [81.174.0.246] 5 29 ms 29 ms 28 ms maya.ngi.it [88.149.128.3] Bye
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#6 |
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Senior Member
Iscritto dal: Jan 2005
Messaggi: 7200
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Hi! Now I can test my english language...
However, I have Alice 4 Mega (interleaved) and my ping is around 45 ms. It's not very good but I can play online with no problems. Some people obtained fast path, that is to say a ping around 25-30 ms but however this is rare. In fact telecom doesn't provide fast path to residential customers. You could try Tiscali ADSL or other connections which usually provide fast path as default. Byez PS: What do you think about my English? |
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Junior Member
Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
Messaggi: 9
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well i am a private user of course, but i work here and my company maybe could do that with the phone number... do they just need the name of the company or do my company have to call them and say that they have to give me a buisness phonenumber? wouldn't that work?
------------------------------------------------------------------------- pozzo sono un utente riservato naturalmente, ma lavoro qui e la mia azienda forse potrebbe fare quella con il numero di telefono... appena ha bisogno del nome dell'azienda o fa la mia azienda deve denominarla e dire che devono darmi un phonenumber di buisness? non quel lavoro? |
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Iscritto dal: Jan 2005
Messaggi: 7200
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PS: Please don't use automatic translators. They are useless and they provide a terrible translation... |
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Senior Member
Iscritto dal: Feb 2003
Città: Padova
Messaggi: 5905
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Look at www.fastweb.it
FastWeb provides fastpath lines over adsl o optical fiber (if you are covered) at the same price. There are three different types of connection: FastWeb Base: there isn't any more Telecom fee, but there is FastWeb fee; this subscription provides full ull adsl (6mbit download, 1mbit upload) or optical fiber (halfduplex 10mbit) and voip telephone (and tvip if you want) FastWeb Light: in this case, telecom fee remains but you have shared access asdl (6mbit download, 1mbit upload) with FastWeb FastWeb Easy: there isn't any fee and you pay only adsl subscription (6mbit download, 1mbit upload), but you can also phone with voip telephone provided by FastWeb In any case, FastWeb lines have fastpath enabled i have FastWeb Base and here is my ping originalp@mobile:~$ ping maya.ngi.it -c 10 PING maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=24.0 ms 64 bytes from ns2.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=23.8 ms 64 bytes from maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=24.8 ms 64 bytes from ns2.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=25.7 ms 64 bytes from maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=21.3 ms 64 bytes from ns2.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=22.8 ms 64 bytes from maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=7 ttl=52 time=23.4 ms 64 bytes from ns2.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=8 ttl=52 time=25.6 ms 64 bytes from maya.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=9 ttl=52 time=21.2 ms 64 bytes from ns2.ngi.it (88.149.128.3): icmp_seq=10 ttl=52 time=22.5 ms --- maya.ngi.it ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 21.222/23.551/25.717/1.523 ms |
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Junior Member
Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
Messaggi: 9
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ok i would like to have fastweb base...
So how do i have to go on now? Because atm i have alice adsl 4 mega...? How can i cancel it or should i first activate fastweb?And there are 2 options: fastweb base and fastweb base ricaricbile but i just need fastweb base, right? |
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Junior Member
Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
Messaggi: 9
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hey devil... could u ping that ip for me? just want to know what u got...(Its a UT server)
IP adress: 85.14.231.215 and also: 85.14.231.216 C:\>ping 85.14.231.215 Ping wird ausgeführt für 85.14.231.215 mit 32 Bytes Daten: Antwort von 85.14.231.215: Bytes=32 Zeit=108ms TTL=118 Antwort von 85.14.231.215: Bytes=32 Zeit=105ms TTL=118 Antwort von 85.14.231.215: Bytes=32 Zeit=107ms TTL=118 Antwort von 85.14.231.215: Bytes=32 Zeit=103ms TTL=118 Ping-Statistik für 85.14.231.215: Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust), Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.: Minimum = 103ms, Maximum = 108ms, Mittelwert = 105ms |
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Senior Member
Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
Città: Pordenone - Tarvisio
Messaggi: 2451
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Senior Member
Iscritto dal: Feb 2003
Città: Padova
Messaggi: 5905
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Once you have verified you are covered by FastWeb, you can subscribe and if you do it online there are a lot of promotional offerts like:
- reduction of the activation cost - first two months of FastWeb Base fee free of charge - free SuperAdsl activation (20mbit) (if you are covered) and other reductions you can see here: http://www.fastweb.it/principale.php...ly.php#promo20 You can do it also ringing up the call center or with the help of a fastweb agent After your subscription, FastWeb will take care about cancelling Telecom fee and installing the connection. Fastweb Base Ricaricabile is not a flat and you have to use pre-payed cards, so i think it isn't for you. You have to subscribe Fastweb Base |
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Senior Member
Iscritto dal: Feb 2003
Città: Padova
Messaggi: 5905
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PING 85.14.231.215 (85.14.231.215) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=1 ttl=115 time=46.2 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=2 ttl=115 time=47.9 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=3 ttl=115 time=48.8 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=4 ttl=115 time=44.1 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=5 ttl=115 time=50.7 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=6 ttl=115 time=50.9 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=7 ttl=115 time=48.5 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=8 ttl=115 time=48.8 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=9 ttl=115 time=46.6 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=10 ttl=115 time=40.7 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=11 ttl=115 time=44.3 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=12 ttl=115 time=50.3 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=13 ttl=115 time=46.1 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=14 ttl=115 time=46.9 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=15 ttl=115 time=43.3 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=16 ttl=115 time=43.7 ms 64 bytes from 85.14.231.215: icmp_seq=17 ttl=115 time=46.2 ms --- 85.14.231.215 ping statistics --- 17 packets transmitted, 17 received, 0% packet loss, time 15997ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 40.738/46.753/50.913/2.762 ms i have 6mbit but my router (Telsey HAG provided by FastWeb) is not the fastest. if you have the opportunity to ask FastWeb for Pirelli HAG you can save another 10-12ms if you are covered by optical fiber ping is better |
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Iscritto dal: Jun 2006
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but the problem is still that no one is able to speak english...so it is at telecom italia... and i just saw a page of ngi http://www.ngi.it/F5/F5.1280256.asp
so what do u think is better ? fastweb or ngi? could u give me a telephone number of a fastweb agent? thanks. If somebody like to cantact me directly, heres my msn adress... Ill be online the whole day: [email protected] |
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Iscritto dal: Feb 2003
Città: Padova
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With Fastweb you are 100% sure that your is about 5 - 40ms (pinging maya.ngi.it) in every place you are (covered by Fastweb, obvoiusly) With NGI you are quite sure to have a good bing (<40ms) but there are some users that have problems with their ping because of line saturation. They cost more or less the same but Fastweb provides more bandwidth at the same price. Quote:
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But you can consider to subscribe Fastweb Light (adsl is the same, even if there isn't the SuperAdsl 20mbit option) where you can use the adsl router you want (compatible with Fastweb specifications). |
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Iscritto dal: Mar 2004
Città: Milano
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remember that if you cancel Alice's subscription before one year from the activation, you must pay monthly charges for remaining months... remember also that Fastweb has private IP address |
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Iscritto dal: Jan 2004
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the fastpath is only with alice business but there is others ISP with fastpath for exemple Fastweb
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