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Un blogg di new Orleans, sempre aggiornato, e con immaggini
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cito uno stralcio di giovedì: Situtation is critical. I'm not leaving, so stop asking. I'm staying. I am staying until this shitstorm has blown itself out. Period. End of discussion. Now for some updates: 1. Been too busy to debrief the police officer, so that will come later. Low priority now. 2. Buses loading people up on Camp Street to take refugees to Dallas, or so the word on the street (literally) is. 3. Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over. 4. National Guard shoving water off the backs of trucks. They're just pushing it off without stopping, people don't even know it's there at first -- they drop it on the side in debris, there's no sign or distribution point -- people are scared to go near it at first, because the drop points are guarded by troops or federal agents with assault rifles who don't let people come near them, which scares people off. It is a mess. When people actually get to the water, they are in such a rush to get it that one family left their small child behind and forget about her until Sig carried him back to the family. 5. Lots of pics coming soon when Sig has time to update. It's raining now and I guess that's a relief from the heat. It's hot as hell down there in the sun. Crime is absolutely rampant: rapes, murders, rape-murder combinations. I have really cut back answering IMs. Not enough time. I apologize people. In case anyone in national security is reading this, get the word to President Bush that we need the military in here NOW. The Active Duty Armed Forces. Mr. President, we are losing this city. I don't care what you're hearing on the news. The city is being lost. It is the law of the jungle down here. The command and control structure here is barely functioning. I'm not sure it's anyone's fault -- I'm not sure it could be any other way at this point. We need the kind of logistical support and infrastructure only the Active Duty military can provide. The hospitals are in dire straights. The police barely have any capabilities at this point. The National Guard is doing their best, but the situation is not being contained. I'm here to help in anyway I can, but my capabilities are limited and dropping. Please get the military here to maintain order before this city is lost. Ultima modifica di momo-racing : 02-09-2005 alle 18:38. |
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The Times-Picayune
Editorial: Not Acceptable The Times-Picayune Editorial Board A day after a normally easy-going Mayor Ray Nagin blasted federal officials' seeming indifference to the plight of New Orleanians who are stranded and dying, President Bush stood on the lawn of the White House and conceded the point: The federal government did not move quickly enough or forcefully enough to help those people hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina. "The results are not acceptable," the president said before boarding a helicopter to go survey the storm's damage. It's good to hear the president admit his administration's shortcomings, and it's even better to hear his promise to help all of us who are in need. But the sad truth remains that the federal government's slow start has already proved fatal to some of the most vulnerable people in the New Orleans area. Water has killed hundreds, if not thousands, of people. A lack of water to drink is exacting its toll on others. "I don't want to see anybody do anymore goddamn press conferences," the mayor said during a WWL radio interview Thursday. "Put a moratorium on press conferences. Don't do another press conference until the resources are in this city." The mayor had obviously become fed up with federal bureaucrats' use of future tense verbs. "Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here," he said. "They're not here. It's too doggone late. Now get off your asses and do something, and let's fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country." We applaud the mayor for giving voice to an entire city's frustration. How could the most powerful and technologically advanced nation in the history of the world have responded so feebly to this crisis? The president's admission of his administration's mistakes will mean nothing unless the promised help is deployed immediately. Each life is precious, and there isn't a second chance to save a single one of them. No more talk of what's going to happen. We only want to hear what is being done. The lives of our people depend on it.
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CLUELESS Vacation is Over ![]() ...an open letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush Friday, September 2nd, 2005 Dear Mr. Bush: Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag. Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with? Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her! I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike? And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ! On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that. There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland. No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this! You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit. Yours, Michael Moore [email protected] www.MichaelMoore.com P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.
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The New York Times
The President Promises by Bush Amid the Tears By ELISABETH BUMILLER Published: September 3, 2005 President Bush, facing searing criticism over the federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina, toured New Orleans and the Gulf Coast yesterday in his first on-the-ground look at the desperation that has gripped the region for the last five days. "I want you to know that I'm not going to forget what I've seen," Mr. Bush said in remarks at the end of the day on the tarmac at the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport. "I understand the devastation requires more than one day's attention. It's going to require the attention from this country for a long period of time." Mr. Bush's arrival coincided with long-awaited deliveries of aid to the flood zone. But the president did not interact much with storm victims, and at one site, a Salvation Army truck in Mississippi, those he did see had first been screened by Secret Service agents with metal detectors. Mr. Bush flew back to Washington from New Orleans without paying a visit to the chaotic makeshift trauma center set up in one terminal at the airport, where many patients evacuated from the city's hospitals were dying before they could be airlifted to other cities. For the first time, Mr. Bush acknowledged that the government response to the catastrophe had fallen short. "The results are not acceptable," the president said as he left the White House about 9 a.m., his face grim. Later, however, after a walking tour of Point Cadet, a poor neighborhood of flattened one-story bungalows in Biloxi, Miss., Mr. Bush amended his remark to say, "I'm certainly not denigrating the efforts of anybody." He added, "I am satisfied with the response, I'm not satisfied with all the results." Mr. Bush toured Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana as he was coming under some of the harshest attacks of his presidency - from Democrats, Republicans, local officials, hurricane victims and the general public, who have been shocked by scenes of bodies floating in floodwater and the elderly left dead in their wheelchairs in the world's most powerful nation. "I don't think anybody can be prepared for the vastness of the destruction," Mr. Bush told reporters in Biloxi, after walking through streets of crushed cars and the occasional concrete stairway to nowhere. "You can look at a picture, but until you sit on that doorstep of a house that used to be, or stand by the rubble, you just can't imagine it." He also declared that the United States had the resources to fight this disaster as well as the war in Iraq. "Somebody questioned me the other day, 'Do we have enough National Guard troops?' " Mr. Bush said. "Of course we do." In Biloxi, Mr. Bush hugged and kissed two weeping sisters on a street where a house had collapsed, telling them to "hang in there," and later passed out bottles of water to residents at a Salvation Army truck. It was the first time that the president encountered a storm victim since the hurricane slammed into the Gulf Coast on Monday and Lake Pontchartrain flooded 80 percent of New Orleans on Tuesday. Mr. Bush toured the city by helicopter with Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco of Louisiana and C. Ray Nagin, the New Orleans mayor, who on a local radio station on Thursday night urged federal officials to "get off your asses and do something." Mr. Bush did not go into the heart of the city's devastation, where thousands of largely poor, black refugees have raged at the government's response to one of the worst natural disasters in American history. The White House cited security concerns and worries about causing more chaos as the reasons for keeping Mr. Bush away from the streets and the New Orleans Superdome, where refugees have lived in squalor and lawlessness for days. "The president wanted to see as much as he could without impeding the relief efforts," said Erin Healy, a White House spokeswoman. Throughout his day, Mr. Bush did not address the shocking images of the desperate and dying on television, even when he was asked by a reporter in Biloxi "why the richest nation on earth can't get food and water to those people that need it." Mr. Bush sidestepped the question and responded that helicopters had rescued people from rooftops and "thousands of peoples' lives have been saved immediately, and that's good news." He did stop to see the work going on to repair the breach in the city's levee that caused much of the flooding, and said at the airport that "there's a lot of people working hard, and they're making good progress." The president's goal for the day seemed to be one of spreading hope and encouragement, which he offered publicly in New Orleans to Michael D. Brown, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, who has been sharply criticized for its response to the disaster. White House officials had said that Mr. Bush, in cutting short his monthlong vacation, would tour the region either Friday or Saturday, and in the end he chose the day on which he could arrive simultaneously with the first convoys of relief supplies. As Mr. Bush appeared in Biloxi, cable television channels ran a split-screen image of National Guard trucks bringing food and water to desperate people in the Superdome. In Biloxi, many residents of the Point Cadet neighborhood said they had been buoyed by the president's visit. "He's going to give us all the help he can. I think he's seen enough devastation," said Valerie Owens, who had received a hug and a kiss from Mr. Bush when she went to get food from the Salvation Army truck. The president teared up, Ms. Owens said, as she told him how she and her family and neighbors, including two children, ages 2 and 5, had ridden out the storm for five hours on a small flat boat, named the S.S. Minnow, just like on "Gilligan's Island." "The only one not crying," she said, "was the 5-year-old girl." Ellen Robertson, 51, met the president with her 7-year-old niece. "He said he's trying to get everything back on track for us," Ms. Robertson said. She and her family live in four houses along a nearby street and all had their roofs crushed by trees, debris and wind. "I believe him because I have to," she said. "I have no choice for right now." But on the edge of the neighborhood, people sat in their yards grumbling about relief efforts and declining to go meet the president. "It's been three days; there's still no ice this side of town," said Mack McCormack, who was living with three other men in a small home where mud stains six feet up the side were evidence of Hurricane Katrina's visit. "There are people who are hurt. They can't get out to get ice. We're making two trips today with these coolers with wheels to get it for them."
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Trovo allucinante la barbarie di questi giorni.
E' degna della peggior guerra civile del peggior staterello dittatoriale del mondo. Stupri, violenze, rapine: i racconti dei testimoni concordano scene infernali tra chi si era rifugiato nel Superdome New Orleans, i giorni dell'orrore suicidi fra poliziotti e pompieri dal nostro inviato DANIELE MASTROGIACOMO L'interno del Superdome NEW ORLEANS - Un silenzio, cupo, profondo, quasi surreale. E poi l'odore, forte, totale, assoluto dei cadaveri in putrefazione. Un odore che ti aggredisce lo stomaco, che impregna ogni cosa. Vestiti, pelle, occhi, bocca. New Orleans è la città dei morti. Decine, centinaia, forse migliaia. Nessuno lo sa e chi lo immagina ha paura ad azzardare solo una cifra. "Credo che sia una verità", ci dice il sindaco Ray Nagin mentre inizia il suo nuovo giro di perlustrazione nella città fantasma seguito dai giornalisti. "I morti sono tanti, tantissimi. Sicuramente molti di più di quelli dell'11 settembre". Molti cadaveri affiorano dai vicoli che dal quartiere francese immettono su Canal street. Altri sono stati restituiti dalle acque del Lago Pontchartrain. Altri ancora vengono ritrovati nelle loro case. Seduti su una poltrona, distesi sul letto, adagiati per terra, raccolti su loro stessi, aspettando, rassegnati, che morte li portasse via. Mentre un sole rosso fuoco tramonta verso ovest, anche l'ultimo pugno di profughi lascia il Convenction center e il Superdome. La città è ufficialmente evacuata. I racconti di quello che è successo per quattro giorni nell'inferno del Superdome sono raccapriccianti. Racconti dell'orrore. Una violenza fatta non solo di sopraffazione e di arroganza dei più forti e organizzati nei confronti dei più deboli e più indifesi. Ma di torture fisiche e psicologiche, di pretese perverse e maniacali, di regole stabilite e imposte a seconda dell'umore dei capi. Quattro giorni senza legge che si sono trasformati nell'apoteosi della brutalità. Ben presto i boss, alcuni girando con dei machete che brandivano minacciosi, sono diventati i padroni di questo teatro della sofferenza. Centinaia famiglie spaventate e confuse, coppie di anziani abituate ad una vita semplice e regolare, studentesse e commesse dei negozi, fidanzati, ragazzi e bambine, mamme e papà, hanno convissuto quattro giorni e quattro notti con banditi e tagliagole. Nel caos che cresceva di ora in ora, con il sindaco Nagin che si sgolava invocando aiuto, con un pugno di poliziotti diventati loro stessi profughi e prigionieri, la vita dentro il Superdome è diventata un vero inferno. Duecento dei 1.300 agenti della polizia di New Orleans non hanno retto. Senza più casa, con le famiglie decimate, sporchi e laceri, aggrediti dalle gang, non se la sono sentita di andare a fare le ronde nella città preda dei saccheggiatori. Hanno preferito disertare. "Li capisco", dice il capo della polizia, Henry White Horn. "Erano disgustati di come si stava gestendo la situazione. Hanno perso tutto e non erano disposti a perdere anche la vita". Ancora più drammatica questa notizia: almeno due pompieri si sono suicidati, e con loro ci sarebbe qualche agente. Dentro il Superdome non c'era cibo e quel poco che si trovava veniva pagato a peso d'oro. Stessa cosa per l'acqua, per le sigarette, per una coperta, un cuscino, una pila. "Bisognava organizzarsi", racconta Dave, 20 anni, studente di Medicina all'università della città. "Per difendere la roba da mangiare, per dormire, per lavarsi. Facevamo dei turni anche per dormire. Qualcuno si era portato la pistola dietro e la teneva bene in vista". Ma l'incubo era il bagno. Ce n'erano trenta, sparpagliati al piano terra del grande stadio dell'Nba, il campionato nazionale di basket americano. Era il posto preferito per gli assalti e gli stupri. Sembravano favole, storie nate da qualche mente troppo fantasiosa. Ma nei rapporti della polizia della città, si racconta di peggio. La testimonianza di Africa Brumfield, 37 anni, donna ovviamente di colore, come del resto la stragrande maggioranza di quelli rimasti ad affrontare "Katrina", ha squarciato il velo della vergogna. "Andare al bagno da sola", ha raccontato alla polizia e poi confermato ai colleghi della Bbc, "era impossibile. Chi lo faceva rischiava di essere violentato o sgozzato". Una vittima è uscita sconvolta dai bagni. E la gente, stanca dei continui soprusi, ha preso coraggio, si è ribellata e si è fatta giustizia da sola. Lo stupratore è stato individuato, preso e linciato. C'è voluto l'intervento dell'esercito, i primi 3000 soldati accorsi dopo l'ennesimo appello disperato del sindaco Nagin, per riportare un barlume di umanità in quella era diventata una giungla. Lo scalo internazionale ha riaperto solo agli aerei d'emergenza. In 24 ore, oltre 40 voli hanno trasferito 25 mila sfollati in Texas e Arizona. Altri 15 mila partiranno nelle prossime ore. Ammassati per l'ennesima volta dentro un enorme hangar, migliaia di persone hanno vissuto la loro ultima notte da incubo. Li abbiamo raggiunti e da loro abbiamo ottenuto nuove conferme delle violenze. Gli stupri sono stati molti. Nei confronti delle donne. Molti parlano di anche di uomini e bambini. E non solo nei bagni. Spesso davanti a tutti. Bloccare per tre giorni ventitremila persone in uno stadio è come fumare in un deposito d'esplosivo. "Non c'erano regole", ci dice Nick, 45 anni, pescatore che ha difeso più volte sua figlia di 14. "Era come in carcere. Peggio del carcere. Comandavano i più forti. Si vendeva di tutto: droga, armi, cibo, gioielli, orologi. Persino le medicine". I più organizzati uscivano di notte e approfittando del buio pesto che avvolgeva la città, andavano a procurarsi la merce. Poi tornavano nel Superdome e iniziavano l'asta di vendita. Le risse erano continue. "Eravamo chiusi, bloccati in quell'inferno", ricorda ancora Nick. "Anche volendo, non si poteva più andare via. Il rifugio che ci aveva risparmiato dall'uragano si era trasformato in una trappola mortale". La reazione, anche questa carica di rabbia e di violenza, è arrivata tra sabato notte e ieri mattina. I 50 mila soldati, poliziotti e volontari hanno decretato una sorta di legge marziale. Una vera licenza per uccidere. Si sono accaniti soprattutto i riservisti. Oltre a barche, gommoni, persino moto d'acqua, hanno caricato di armi i loro pick up e sono sbarcati a New Orleans con una gran voglia di menare le mani. Qualcuno è stato rispedito indietro. Aveva svuotato l'armeria vicino casa e si era portato appresso persino un bazooka. Ieri mattina l'ultima sparatoria su un ponte: un pattuglione ha ucciso 6 o 7 criminali che li avevano sfidati con i loro fucili. Abbiamo visto e incontrato i riservisti. Qualificarsi come giornalisti è come un insulto. Solo l'accortezza di alcuni poliziotti con cui abbiamo diviso gli ultimi giorni, ci ha evitato un arresto del tutto arbitrario o qualche proiettile. In America tutti girano armati per difesa. Ma quello che è accaduto fino a ieri sera si chiama omicidio. Volontario. Un ragazzo di 16 anni è stato investito da un'auto della polizia e poi finito con un colpo di pistola in testa. I comandi ammettono gli episodi. "Stiamo facendo del nostro meglio", dicono, "con le riserve che abbiamo, ma la maggior parte si trova in Iraq". Quasi 200 morti sono già allineati all'aeroporto internazionale. Ma non tutti sono vittime di "Katrina". Decine di persone sono sparite, date per disperse e poi ritrovate nei vicoli, sui marciapiedi, sotto i ponti, i cavalcavia, nelle case, dentro i cassonetti. Uccisi a colpi di pistola e fucile. Inghiottiti nel buco nero di questa Apocalisse. (5 settembre 2005) |
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L'Avana, 23:34 KATRINA: OLTRE 1.500 MEDICI CUBANI PRONTI A PARTIRE Oltre 1.500 medici cubani sono pronti a partire per il sud degli Stati Uniti per collaborare all'assistenza dei sinistrati del l'uragano Katrina ma Washington non ha ancora formalmente accettato l'offerta di aiuto del suo storico "nemico". Ieri sera, Fidel Castro ha presentato il piccolo esercito di medici in camice bianco e borsa verde con i kit per i soccorsi, al centro congressi dell'Avana. "Sono trascorse 48 ore e non abbiamo ricevuto risposta alcuna alla nostra offerta. Aspetteremo pazientemente", ha detto il presidente cubano, che ha aumentato l'offerta di aiuti: 1586 medici e 34 tonnellate di medicine. LuVi |
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Scusa lucio, ma da una citta' colpita da un uragano di categoria 5 ove 2 metri d'acqua coprono tutta la superficie, per lo meno mi sarei aspettato un paesaggio simile : essendo zona di calamita', cosa si aspettavano i giornalisti? rose e fiori al posto dei cadaveri che non possono essere evacuati all'interno di una struttura (il superdome) accerchiato dall'acqua? Mi basta pensare che alcuni stati americani detengono il record di delinquenza organizzata.
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intervista al presidente della Contea di Jefferson, Louisiana
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