[Ba + sped]Abit IP35-E

dario fgx · 30-12-2008, 21:34

Abit IP35-E

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2063989

LGA775
P35
supporto Quad core e cpu 45nm
DDRII
PCI-e

La scheda è in perfette condizioni e completa di tutto il suo bundle mascherina esclusa.
La mobo è in garanzia fino ad ottobre 2009 e fornisco scontrino.
Regge tranquillamente i 500 di FSB senza ov spinti.

Il prezzo di regolamento è 62,50€, chiedo 55€+ss NON TRATTABILI per questa mobo davvero onesta!

REGOLE:
precedenza a mano.
ritiro in qualsiasi momento dalla vendita.
Non mi assumo responsabilità per spedizioni andate a male.

DETTAGLI:
Comes will all Japanese capacitors and low-profile solid caps at the CPU power regulation circuit. The IP35-E uses the same PWM RT8802A IC as the top-of-the-line IP35 Pro. There was no buzzing or ringing from the board's power circuit during Orthos and S&M's test sessions. Blue board with blue southbridge, northbridge, and MOSFET passive heat sinks. RAM slots are color-coded (white/black) for dual channel operation. Plenty of clearance around CPU area, although I had to trim 1/4" from the Big Typhoon's top bracket to clear the northbridge heat sink.

There's a molex plug to provide additional juice to the video card. Make sure that the proper 12V rail is connected to this molex plug to avoid overloading a 12V in a multi-rail PSU. The 24 pin power plug is located at the middle front of the board, just above the PATA connector. The floppy connector is positioned at the bottom front, next to the front panel header (with speaker output). There are 4 USB jacks at the back, plus four USB 2.0 port headers to the left of the front panel header for a total of 12 possible USB ports. The 8-pin/4-pin power plug is located just above the MOSFET heat sink. Use the lower 4-pin plug if the PSU lacks an 8-pin plug. Starting from the bottom rear, we have three PCI slots, one PCIE x1 slot, one open slot to provide clearance for a larger PCIE graphic card, one PCIE x 16 slot, and one PCIE x1 slot.

Abit includes a S/PDIF output and a rear panel optical out. Audio is 7.1 channel HD audio by Realtek. This board employs a single Gigabit LAN port using the Marvell 88E8056 PCI Express chip, which should yield a slight improvement in throughput speed vs the IP35 Pro. The big brother Abit IP35 Pro's Gigabit LAN is connected thru the PCI bus, not PCIE! As a result, the maximum throughput will probably be lowered by about 35% with higher CPU load. This should not affect real-world performance because the bottleneck is still the 50MB/s write speed of the HDD. USB 2.0 performance is on par with the best boards; 31.7MB/s continuous write throughput (via external USB hard drive).

This is a 4-phase P35/ICH9 board will full support of 1333MHz FSB, capable of keeping up with the 8-phase Asus P5B Deluxe. One JMicro JMB368 PATA port on the PCI-E, 4 SATA 3Gb/s ports just above the floppy connector in a 2 x 2 layout. One LED for power, one LED for standby. No 1394. No RAID.

Installation is straightforward with WXP Pro SP1. No need to hit F6 for special drivers. Vista auto detects all drivers except for the Intel INF chipset utility. The shipped 11 BIOS (5/24/07) is very stable. To return to the previous stable setting, disconnect power to the board, re-apply power, and hit DELETE to access BIOS.

This board overclocks a little better than the Asus P5B Deluxe...at least with my E4300. Only need to bump up Vcore, Vdimm, and change memory divider to 1:1.25 (Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRam @ 477MHz 5-4-4-12-2T 1.95Vdimm). Chip is stable at 3.58GHz (398x9) with 1.505Vcore. Vcore in CPUz is 0.02V lower than BIOS. Vdroop is 0.02V. No FSB hole between 200 and 425MHz. My 800MHz FSB chip would not boot above 425MHz FSB with lower multiplier, but I'm sure that this board is capable of driving the E63xx chip to at least 480MHz FSB.

CPU and SYSTEM fan headers incorporate speedfan control with 2-pin, 3-pin, or 4-pin fan. Other two fan headers run at +12VDC. The sophisticated FanEQ will accept a target temperature, tolerance, and start/stop control from 30% to 100% of rated fan speed. Thanks to the MOSFET-driven fan header, my 2-pin 120 x 38 mm Panaflo ramps up/down smoothly with this ABIT fan control system. SB and MOSFET heat sinks run cool. NB is warm under full-load, but not as hot as the Abit IB9.

The six memory divider settings provide adequate fine tuning of the memory speed. Owners of ValueRAM will appreciate the 1:1, 1:1.20, and 1:1.125 memory dividers, starting as low as 200MHz FSB. C1E and EIST speedstep works well. The BIOS permits manual adjustment of Vcore, Vdimm, CPU VTT, Vnorthbridge, Vsouthbridge, CPU GTLREF, PCIE frequency, CAS, RAS# to CAS #, RAS # precharge, precharge delay, refresh cycle time, write recovery time, write to read delay, act to act time, and read to precharge.

Boot time under WXP Pro SP1 with one 7200 rpm PATA Seagate 7200.8 and 2GB RAM is a speedy 26 seconds (power ON to first appearance of desktop). Haven't discovered any major fault with this board after several days of testing.

Finally, let's take a look at power consumption. The power measurement was taken with a calibrated ammeter connected in series to the AC line. The test rig includes Windows XP Pro SP1, one EVGA 7100GS PCIe video card, one 80GB WD HDD, 2GB Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRAM (1.95Vdimm), one E4300 at 3.44GHz (1.465Vcore), one floppy drive, one Microsoft 4000 keyboard, and one Logitech optical mouse. The power supply is an Antec SP350. To obtain the approximate true load of these components, simply multiply these numbers by 0.73 (average efficiency of the Antec PSU).

C1E/EIST ON:
-Idle...121 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts

C1E/EIST OFF:
-Idle...134 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts

This same setup with an Asus P5B deluxe yields the following numbers...

C1E/EIST ON:
-Idle...160 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts

C1E/EIST OFF:
-Idle...160 watts
-Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts

I suspect the 16 to 32% increase in power consumption is due to the Asus' 8-phase power circuit, plus on-board bells and whistles. CPUz shows a drop in multiplier and Vcore when iding, but the actual current draw at the AC line did not decrease. C1E/EIST were enabled in Asus' latest 1101 BIOS.

I don't have a good E63xx for evaluation, but based on my experience with this E4300, I believe that Abit has put out a highly overclockable board at a very attractive price. This board is the Intel evil-twin of EVGA/XFX's 650i Ultra. The Nvidia boards have RAIDs, but are populated with lower-quality capacitors. Abit's fan management system is one of the best in the business. Now Intel has a low-cost solution to compete with Nvidia.

UPDATE 07-07-07

Managed to overclock an E6320 to 3.415GHz (488MHz FSB x 7 multi) with 1.51Vcore. NB, SB, and VTT were bumped up one notch to 1.29, 1.55, and 1.2375 respectively. Memory divider @ 1:1 with 5-4-4-9-2T timing. Again, there was no FSB hole between 266 and 488MHz.

Speedfan and CoreTemp 0.95 report 53C under Orthos Large mode (75F ambient). S&M shows 68C with 85C TJunction. The same program reports 100C TJunction on my E4300, which may explain why I'm seeing an additional 14C under load with the 4300. 1M Super Pi time of 14.860 seconds. CPU will boot into Windows at 494MHz FSB x 6 multi and run 1M Super Pi, but the system is not stable at this level of overclock. Memtest is OK.

This Abit IP35-E board has a minimum useable FSB frequency of 488MHz with a slight bump in NB, SB, and VTT. I suspect +500MHz FSB is possible with a better chip. My E6320 sample appears to have a 495MHz FSB wall. This board earns a 10 for value, 10 for stability, 9.5 for overclock capability, and 9 for general performance (minus 1 point for the double post issue).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...1&posted=1#post2314971

Review pitting the Abit IP35-E against the high and mid-range P35 boards. IP35-E had no problem keeping up with the ASUS P5K Deluxe or the Gigabyte P35-DQ6. Again, no big surprise with all boards falling within a tight deviation of +/- 2%. This is the 3rd best overclocking board, 7MHz (2%) below P5K Deluxe and 3MHz (1%) below IP35 Pro.

CODE:

titave · 30-12-2008, 21:52

Coda,
controllo il sito

titave · 30-12-2008, 22:06

Caxxo.....

non riesco a collegarmi col sito abit......
Intanto parcheggiami....non voglio fare il tiramolla

Tita

dario fgx · 30-12-2008, 22:08

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da titave

Coda,
controllo il sito

bene per ogni info son qui!

ops abbiam postato assieme

cmq è vero il sito abit nn s'ère.

cmq come dicevo per ogni info son qui

Olliver · 31-12-2008, 03:47

Ciao interessato vorrei sapere vanno bene le drr2 533 ? io la userei per muletto

avrei anche urgenza

famm isapere ciao

dario fgx · 31-12-2008, 08:51

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da Olliver

Ciao interessato vorrei sapere vanno bene le drr2 533 ? io la userei per muletto

avrei anche urgenza

famm isapere ciao

come dicevo la mobo non è immediatamente disponibile, dato che ne sto prendendo un'altra ma in questo periodo le cose arrivano a rilento x via delle feste.

certo vanno bene le ddr533, perchè no?

dario fgx · 31-12-2008, 12:27

aggiunte ventole

Olliver · 31-12-2008, 17:45

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da dario fgx

come dicevo la mobo non è immediatamente disponibile, dato che ne sto prendendo un'altra ma in questo periodo le cose arrivano a rilento x via delle feste.

certo vanno bene le ddr533, perchè no?

Ciao può sembrare una domanda stupida ma sulle p5k le 533 non vanno il supporto parte da 633 almeno ne ho provate 2 e su nessuna vanno

Se confermi supporto 100% 533 ribadisco forte interessamento

dario fgx · 01-01-2009, 12:04

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da Olliver

Ciao può sembrare una domanda stupida ma sulle p5k le 533 non vanno il supporto parte da 633 almeno ne ho provate 2 e su nessuna vanno

Se confermi supporto 100% 533 ribadisco forte interessamento

mi pare strano io ho delle ddr800 comunque
guardo il manuale ed in giro ok?

edit:

mi sa che hai agione nn supportano le 533 ma parte da 667 il supporto

mikisx · 01-01-2009, 12:58

Ciao , coda x me

dario fgx · 01-01-2009, 13:11

allora ragazzi se c'è qualcuno che mi conferma subito io lunedi 5 ve la spedisco
prima si andrebbe incontro al fermo posta che prefersico evitare.

mikisx · 01-01-2009, 15:26

io confermo

dario fgx · 01-01-2009, 17:24

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da mikisx

io confermo

ora ti invio un pvt...

dario fgx · 01-01-2009, 17:30

ad i due utenti primi in coda, attendo domattina per affinare la trattativa con mikisx, poi passo oltre?
Fatevi sentire....capisco cje è fretta ma i grattini dei parcheggi scadono

titave · 02-01-2009, 09:21

ciao Dario,
come ti dicevo, parcheggiami pure.
Passo

Tita

dario fgx · 02-01-2009, 09:31

@Titave, mi spiace sarò per la prossima
@Olliver, le code non sono eterne e desumo che per la questione delle memorie tu non sia più interessato
@mikisx io la mb l'ho gia smontata possiamo procedere allo scambio dei dati

dario fgx · 02-01-2009, 14:56

mikisx ci 6?

mxrco90 · 02-01-2009, 18:12

Ciao coda, scambieresti la tua scheda madre per una ati x1900xt?

dario fgx · 02-01-2009, 21:43

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da mxrco90

Ciao coda, scambieresti la tua scheda madre per una ati x1900xt?

ciao. no ho gia una 8800ultra

devo considerarti in coda comunque ?

dario fgx · 03-01-2009, 09:35

avanzata trattativa con mikisx

30-12-2008, 21:34	#1
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	[Ba + sped]Abit IP35-E Abit IP35-E http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2063989 LGA775 P35 supporto Quad core e cpu 45nm DDRII PCI-e La scheda è in perfette condizioni e completa di tutto il suo bundle mascherina esclusa. La mobo è in garanzia fino ad ottobre 2009 e fornisco scontrino. Regge tranquillamente i 500 di FSB senza ov spinti. Il prezzo di regolamento è 62,50€, chiedo 55€+ss NON TRATTABILI per questa mobo davvero onesta! REGOLE: precedenza a mano. ritiro in qualsiasi momento dalla vendita. Non mi assumo responsabilità per spedizioni andate a male. DETTAGLI: Comes will all Japanese capacitors and low-profile solid caps at the CPU power regulation circuit. The IP35-E uses the same PWM RT8802A IC as the top-of-the-line IP35 Pro. There was no buzzing or ringing from the board's power circuit during Orthos and S&M's test sessions. Blue board with blue southbridge, northbridge, and MOSFET passive heat sinks. RAM slots are color-coded (white/black) for dual channel operation. Plenty of clearance around CPU area, although I had to trim 1/4" from the Big Typhoon's top bracket to clear the northbridge heat sink. There's a molex plug to provide additional juice to the video card. Make sure that the proper 12V rail is connected to this molex plug to avoid overloading a 12V in a multi-rail PSU. The 24 pin power plug is located at the middle front of the board, just above the PATA connector. The floppy connector is positioned at the bottom front, next to the front panel header (with speaker output). There are 4 USB jacks at the back, plus four USB 2.0 port headers to the left of the front panel header for a total of 12 possible USB ports. The 8-pin/4-pin power plug is located just above the MOSFET heat sink. Use the lower 4-pin plug if the PSU lacks an 8-pin plug. Starting from the bottom rear, we have three PCI slots, one PCIE x1 slot, one open slot to provide clearance for a larger PCIE graphic card, one PCIE x 16 slot, and one PCIE x1 slot. Abit includes a S/PDIF output and a rear panel optical out. Audio is 7.1 channel HD audio by Realtek. This board employs a single Gigabit LAN port using the Marvell 88E8056 PCI Express chip, which should yield a slight improvement in throughput speed vs the IP35 Pro. The big brother Abit IP35 Pro's Gigabit LAN is connected thru the PCI bus, not PCIE! As a result, the maximum throughput will probably be lowered by about 35% with higher CPU load. This should not affect real-world performance because the bottleneck is still the 50MB/s write speed of the HDD. USB 2.0 performance is on par with the best boards; 31.7MB/s continuous write throughput (via external USB hard drive). This is a 4-phase P35/ICH9 board will full support of 1333MHz FSB, capable of keeping up with the 8-phase Asus P5B Deluxe. One JMicro JMB368 PATA port on the PCI-E, 4 SATA 3Gb/s ports just above the floppy connector in a 2 x 2 layout. One LED for power, one LED for standby. No 1394. No RAID. Installation is straightforward with WXP Pro SP1. No need to hit F6 for special drivers. Vista auto detects all drivers except for the Intel INF chipset utility. The shipped 11 BIOS (5/24/07) is very stable. To return to the previous stable setting, disconnect power to the board, re-apply power, and hit DELETE to access BIOS. This board overclocks a little better than the Asus P5B Deluxe...at least with my E4300. Only need to bump up Vcore, Vdimm, and change memory divider to 1:1.25 (Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRam @ 477MHz 5-4-4-12-2T 1.95Vdimm). Chip is stable at 3.58GHz (398x9) with 1.505Vcore. Vcore in CPUz is 0.02V lower than BIOS. Vdroop is 0.02V. No FSB hole between 200 and 425MHz. My 800MHz FSB chip would not boot above 425MHz FSB with lower multiplier, but I'm sure that this board is capable of driving the E63xx chip to at least 480MHz FSB. CPU and SYSTEM fan headers incorporate speedfan control with 2-pin, 3-pin, or 4-pin fan. Other two fan headers run at +12VDC. The sophisticated FanEQ will accept a target temperature, tolerance, and start/stop control from 30% to 100% of rated fan speed. Thanks to the MOSFET-driven fan header, my 2-pin 120 x 38 mm Panaflo ramps up/down smoothly with this ABIT fan control system. SB and MOSFET heat sinks run cool. NB is warm under full-load, but not as hot as the Abit IB9. The six memory divider settings provide adequate fine tuning of the memory speed. Owners of ValueRAM will appreciate the 1:1, 1:1.20, and 1:1.125 memory dividers, starting as low as 200MHz FSB. C1E and EIST speedstep works well. The BIOS permits manual adjustment of Vcore, Vdimm, CPU VTT, Vnorthbridge, Vsouthbridge, CPU GTLREF, PCIE frequency, CAS, RAS# to CAS #, RAS # precharge, precharge delay, refresh cycle time, write recovery time, write to read delay, act to act time, and read to precharge. Boot time under WXP Pro SP1 with one 7200 rpm PATA Seagate 7200.8 and 2GB RAM is a speedy 26 seconds (power ON to first appearance of desktop). Haven't discovered any major fault with this board after several days of testing. Finally, let's take a look at power consumption. The power measurement was taken with a calibrated ammeter connected in series to the AC line. The test rig includes Windows XP Pro SP1, one EVGA 7100GS PCIe video card, one 80GB WD HDD, 2GB Kingston DDR2 800 ValueRAM (1.95Vdimm), one E4300 at 3.44GHz (1.465Vcore), one floppy drive, one Microsoft 4000 keyboard, and one Logitech optical mouse. The power supply is an Antec SP350. To obtain the approximate true load of these components, simply multiply these numbers by 0.73 (average efficiency of the Antec PSU). C1E/EIST ON: -Idle...121 watts -Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts C1E/EIST OFF: -Idle...134 watts -Load (orthos Large test)...262 watts This same setup with an Asus P5B deluxe yields the following numbers... C1E/EIST ON: -Idle...160 watts -Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts C1E/EIST OFF: -Idle...160 watts -Load (orthos Large test)...305 watts I suspect the 16 to 32% increase in power consumption is due to the Asus' 8-phase power circuit, plus on-board bells and whistles. CPUz shows a drop in multiplier and Vcore when iding, but the actual current draw at the AC line did not decrease. C1E/EIST were enabled in Asus' latest 1101 BIOS. I don't have a good E63xx for evaluation, but based on my experience with this E4300, I believe that Abit has put out a highly overclockable board at a very attractive price. This board is the Intel evil-twin of EVGA/XFX's 650i Ultra. The Nvidia boards have RAIDs, but are populated with lower-quality capacitors. Abit's fan management system is one of the best in the business. Now Intel has a low-cost solution to compete with Nvidia. UPDATE 07-07-07 Managed to overclock an E6320 to 3.415GHz (488MHz FSB x 7 multi) with 1.51Vcore. NB, SB, and VTT were bumped up one notch to 1.29, 1.55, and 1.2375 respectively. Memory divider @ 1:1 with 5-4-4-9-2T timing. Again, there was no FSB hole between 266 and 488MHz. Speedfan and CoreTemp 0.95 report 53C under Orthos Large mode (75F ambient). S&M shows 68C with 85C TJunction. The same program reports 100C TJunction on my E4300, which may explain why I'm seeing an additional 14C under load with the 4300. 1M Super Pi time of 14.860 seconds. CPU will boot into Windows at 494MHz FSB x 6 multi and run 1M Super Pi, but the system is not stable at this level of overclock. Memtest is OK. This Abit IP35-E board has a minimum useable FSB frequency of 488MHz with a slight bump in NB, SB, and VTT. I suspect +500MHz FSB is possible with a better chip. My E6320 sample appears to have a 495MHz FSB wall. This board earns a 10 for value, 10 for stability, 9.5 for overclock capability, and 9 for general performance (minus 1 point for the double post issue). http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...1&posted=1#post2314971 Review pitting the Abit IP35-E against the high and mid-range P35 boards. IP35-E had no problem keeping up with the ASUS P5K Deluxe or the Gigabyte P35-DQ6. Again, no big surprise with all boards falling within a tight deviation of +/- 2%. This is the 3rd best overclocking board, 7MHz (2%) below P5K Deluxe and 3MHz (1%) below IP35 Pro. CODE: __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! " Ultima modifica di dario fgx : 05-02-2009 alle 22:23.

30-12-2008, 21:52	#2
titave Senior Member Iscritto dal: Mar 2002 Città: Venezia centro Messaggi: 2476	Coda, controllo il sito __________________ Ryzen 5 1600x su Giga AX370 Gaming 3 - 2x8 ddr4 3200 GSkill - R7 260x (in aggiornamento) 2gb gddr5

30-12-2008, 22:06	#3
titave Senior Member Iscritto dal: Mar 2002 Città: Venezia centro Messaggi: 2476	Caxxo..... non riesco a collegarmi col sito abit...... Intanto parcheggiami....non voglio fare il tiramolla Tita __________________ Ryzen 5 1600x su Giga AX370 Gaming 3 - 2x8 ddr4 3200 GSkill - R7 260x (in aggiornamento) 2gb gddr5

31-12-2008, 12:27	#7
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	aggiunte ventole __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

01-01-2009, 12:58	#10
mikisx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Sep 2006 Messaggi: 2189	Ciao , coda x me __________________ Asrock X79 extreme 11 \|\| Intel I7 4960X \|\| 32GB Vengeance 2400Mhz \|\| R9 280x \|\| Thermaltake 1200 \|\| Obsidian 900D \|\| 840 Evo Cerco collaboratori per blog informatica

31-12-2008, 03:47	#5
Olliver Utente sospeso Iscritto dal: Dec 2008 Messaggi: 286	Ciao interessato vorrei sapere vanno bene le drr2 533 ? io la userei per muletto avrei anche urgenza famm isapere ciao

01-01-2009, 13:11	#11
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	allora ragazzi se c'è qualcuno che mi conferma subito io lunedi 5 ve la spedisco prima si andrebbe incontro al fermo posta che prefersico evitare. __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

01-01-2009, 15:26	#12
mikisx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Sep 2006 Messaggi: 2189	io confermo __________________ Asrock X79 extreme 11 \|\| Intel I7 4960X \|\| 32GB Vengeance 2400Mhz \|\| R9 280x \|\| Thermaltake 1200 \|\| Obsidian 900D \|\| 840 Evo Cerco collaboratori per blog informatica

01-01-2009, 17:30	#14
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	ad i due utenti primi in coda, attendo domattina per affinare la trattativa con mikisx, poi passo oltre? Fatevi sentire....capisco cje è fretta ma i grattini dei parcheggi scadono __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

02-01-2009, 09:21	#15
titave Senior Member Iscritto dal: Mar 2002 Città: Venezia centro Messaggi: 2476	ciao Dario, come ti dicevo, parcheggiami pure. Passo Tita __________________ Ryzen 5 1600x su Giga AX370 Gaming 3 - 2x8 ddr4 3200 GSkill - R7 260x (in aggiornamento) 2gb gddr5

02-01-2009, 09:31	#16
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	@Titave, mi spiace sarò per la prossima @Olliver, le code non sono eterne e desumo che per la questione delle memorie tu non sia più interessato @mikisx io la mb l'ho gia smontata possiamo procedere allo scambio dei dati __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

02-01-2009, 14:56	#17
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	mikisx ci 6? __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

02-01-2009, 18:12	#18
mxrco90 Senior Member Iscritto dal: Oct 2008 Città: Campobasso Messaggi: 1190	mb Ciao coda, scambieresti la tua scheda madre per una ati x1900xt? __________________ NOTEBOOK: DELL XPS M1330! Ho concluso positivamente con:fuckaldo:alemar78:tgaserver:Fran123:pinzano:word_worm:cagi69:gotam:cicciopizza91:Blackfenix: Spike69:marcuspe:luca734:ultimate_sayan:OPP:ghismo83:saxo_vts:iasudoru...tutte a buon fine

03-01-2009, 09:35	#20
dario fgx Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2003 Città: Terlizzi(BA) Messaggi: 9622	avanzata trattativa con mikisx __________________ "E' dall'alto che ci dividono, è là in alto che inventano il pericolo ! "

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