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Ed in questo caso il TRIPLE arranca (a seconda del processore col quale lo si confronta) perchè se si sfrutta un solo core serve frequenza... serve SPINGERE il core fino a 3,0Ghz... ![]()
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Lo sto scaricando, dopo posto.
----- X3 Io credo che in generale il clock massimo raggiungibile dal procio sia il medesimo degli X4. Quello che sicuramente cambierà è il fatto che la media dell'overclock si alzerà in base alla questione che non tutte le mobo possono dare tutta l'alimentazione necessaria al 9850. E non da sottovalutare il fatto che nell'insieme, anche se il procio non è particolarmente conveniente se lo si confronta agli X2 e X4, ma l'hardware necessario per spingerlo al massimo è sicuramente meno oneroso di quello necessario al 9850 (e non poco... se parliamo di mobo al top e di dissi a liquido). Io ho visto sul mio campo che non c'è applicazione che mi faccia rimpiangere il mio 5000+@3,233, però non metto in dubbio che il 9850 sono riuscito ad overcloccarlo a 3,2GHz in maniera da tenerlo SEMPRE acceso e SEMPRE sotto carico con le WU di Seti, e per solo gioco o altro non continuativo, a 3,25-3,3GHz ci sta. A parte Deneb e quant'altro, io penso più che fattibile che con il passaggio a 45nm l'overclock del Phenom sia un gradino più avanti dell'overclock del K8. Io rimango dell'idea che un Phenom B3 su base 45nm sia piuttosto vicina, io penso verso giugno-luglio. Credo che ormai i tempi siano maturi. Reputerei un passo molto lungo realizzare il Deneb su un silicio nuovo tutto in una volta. Prima che sfornino dei B3 su 45nm... e poi il Deneb.
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pensavo che sarebbe interessante invece vedere come si comprtano i piccolini in OC... tipo il 9650, il 9750 95W e i Triple-core... se arrivassero pure loro a certe frequenze...
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Pagine addietro in questo thread, era stato riportato un 9550 overcloccato a 2,7Ghz (oltre era difficile non per il voltaggio ma perchè il moltiplicatore del 9550 è basso, e di default la sua frequenza sta a 2,2Ghz).
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dover agire su l'oc in una situazione di molti-lock, significherebbe usurare il doppio del fegato che si sta usurando paolo su un procio sbloccato... ovviamente escludo casi di phenom fortunati (anke versioni lisce/no black), ma sn casi rarissimi, visto che monstermash ha avuto fra le mani due black edition sfigati, immagina cm si alzi la probabilità che le soluzioni "no black edition" siano pietrificati all'overclock... |
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Ci sono delle voci in qui parlano di un possibile Phenom FX 2.80Ghz a 45nm entro la fine del terzo trimestre 2008. Il problema è che la FAB 38 ( ex FAB 30 ) dove si produrranno le CPU a 45nm non è ancora stata ultimata; gli attuali sample 45nm C0 sono frutto di alcune macchine presenti nella FAB 36, non in grado di produrre in volumi tutta la gamma K10. Tuttavia se AMD approverà lo step C0 ( quello visto al CeBit 2008 ) per la produzione potrebbe proporre un modello Phenom prima del previsto. Purtroppo però un solo eventuale Phenom a 45nm costerebbe più del dovuto... Comunque a giugno nè sapremo di più, anche se sarà durissima vedere un K10 a 45nm entro l'estate...
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AMD presenta 5 Opteron a basso consumo!
Nella giornata di oggi AMD presenta 5 K10 serie Opteron con ACP a 55W ( TDP a 68W ):
☆Opteron serie 2300 Step B3 (Quad Core/65nm/Barcelona/Dual Socket F) ・Opteron 2347 HE(1.9GHz/L2 512KB*4/L3 2MB/TDP 68W/) ・Opteron 2346 HE(1.8GHz/L2 512KB*4/L3 2MB/TDP 68W/) ・Opteron 2344 HE(1.7GHz/L2 512KB*4/L3 2MB/TDP 68W/) I prezzi ( in dollari stock da 1000 CPU ) sono $.377, $.255 e $.207 ☆Opteron serie 8300 Step B3 (Quad Core/65nm/Barcelona/Quad Socket F) ・Opteron 8347 HE(1.9GHz/L2 512KB*4/L3 2MB/TDP 68W/) ・Opteron 8346 HE(1.8GHz/L2 512KB*4/L3 2MB/TDP 68W/) I prezzi ( in dollari stock da 1000 CPU ) sono $.873 e $.698 Clicca qui...
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380€ la più scacciona
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scusate sono deciso a comprare un amd phenom 9600 black edition secondo voi vedro la differenza rispetto una amd 5000x2 black?
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Attualmente l'unico black edition è il 9850 a 2.50Ghz...
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E' uscito il nuovo cpuz 1.45. Ecco le novità:
* Intel Atom Z500/Z510/Z520/Z530/Z540 processors. * Intel Core 2 Duo E7x00 processor. * AMD 45 nm Phenom (Dened & Shanghai) processors. * Intel P45 chipset. Che significhi che siano più vicini di quanto si pensa?
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Di solito le caratteristiche delle nuove CPU vengono aggiornate nel programma quando si trovano abbastanza facilmente... Per quando ne so i sample K10 45nm non sono MAI stati distribuiti e si trovano solamente nei laboratori AMD sotto chiave...
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Installo quello che ho scaricato su tuo consiglio.... che faccio? posto i risultati a 2,5GHz default e poi a 3,2GHz, o li faccio direttamente a 3,2GHz?
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Gente vi posto un link del sito amd con un piccolo video kikka dei 45nm demos
http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_155...l?redir=45nm01 Buona visione a tutti ^_^ |
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DOCUMENTO UFFICIALE AMD Q&A on 45nm (PDF) (28 KB) sempre nella pagina segnalata da Billuzzo (ottimo colpo) ^^ AMD 45nm Process Technology Generation Fact Sheet/FAQ/Q&A Q1: When will AMD introduce 45nm processors? A1: AMD is on track to meet key production milestones, which support OEM and channel product delivery plans. AMD is ramping production of its first 45nm products in the first half of 2008 and expects 45nm products to be available in the second half of 2008. Q2: Which products will be first available at 45nm? A2: AMD native quad-core products will be first introduced on 45nm technology, both the first server 45nm product, “Shanghai” and the first desktop device, “Deneb”. Q3: What process improvements will AMD introduce at the 45nm node? A3: At 45nm, AMD plans on introducing new leading-edge submicron technologies along with significant improvements to existing ones. These enhancements are aimed primarily at improving AMD’s transistor designs and interconnect circuitry to enable sustained linear increases in processor and platform performance-per-watt, while also overcoming inherent challenges introduced from continued reduction of transistor size. Key innovations within AMD’s 45nm process are scheduled to include the following: • Immersion Lithography. Through the IBM partnership, AMD has developed a stable, highly-productive, immersion lithography process which achieves a 40 percent gain in resolution over conventional lithography while maintaining yields consistent with conventional lithography. Immersion tools are online and running wafers using AMD’s 45nm technology. AMD’s analysis shows that immersion lithography is a more efficient, cost-effective approach than the double-mask, double-etch lithography method used by our competition. • Fourth-generation Strained Silicon. AMD’s first 45nm product features transistors using AMD’s fourth generation of strained silicon technology, utilizing Silicon Germanium, Dual-Stress Liner and advanced Strain Memorization techniques for increased switching speed and power-efficiency. • Ultra-low-k Dielectrics. In some later 45nm products, AMD plans on using ultralow- k dielectrics to reduce wire delays by as much as 15 percent and enable greater overall processor performance. • High-k/metal Gates. As part of AMD’s Continuous Transistor Improvement (CTI) approach, AMD has the option to introduce high-k/metal gates into 45nm production to further enhance transistor performance. The “gate first” approach, developed with IBM, is designed to provide a simpler, less time consuming way to migrate to high-k metal gate technology and secure benefits that include improved performance and reduced power consumption. Q4: Is AMD making progress on the goal to speed its microprocessor process technology cadence? A4: Yes, AMD is consistently focused on increasing operational speed, but also efficiency and agility. However, there’s an important and relevant distinction between when a company ships its first microprocessor on a new process generation, and when it is fully converted to the new process. AMD achieved full conversion to 65nm production within its fabs in approximately mid-2007. This rapid fab conversion has been a hallmark of AMD, allowing the company to remain competitive in both cost-efficiency and fab utilization, and we expect to convert quickly to 45nm. Q5: What are the benefits of 45nm process technology for customers? A5: Working in concert with design and manufacturing excellence, process technology plays a key role in enabling continued performance-per-watt and functionality improvements in AMD processors and platforms. Q6: How does the IBM relationship contribute to your 45nm progress? A6: The IBM alliance allows us to achieve greater operational accuracy and agility, while maximizing return on R&D. Throughout its history, AMD has efficiently combined its strengths with those of key partners for mutual benefit. This focus on open and collaborative innovation provides cost-effective access to a wealth of partner developed technologies and techniques. Q7: How does AMD determine when to transition to a new process technology generation? A7: AMD transitions to a new process technology generation when it is right for our customers and right for the company. A common misconception is that being first to a new process technology generation is the fundamental determinant of performance and energy efficiency leadership. AMD has proven this to be false. Rather than the more costly and higher-risk method of making a full technology transition every two years, AMD uses a unique and highly efficient method called Continuous Technology Improvement (CTI). CTI allows us to maximize the benefits and increase the return on investment of a single process technology generation for as long as possible by evolving and improving the transistor designs within that generation. This is why at many points in our history our processors and platforms have remained competitive, even when compared against those from our competitors based on the next process technology generation. ---------------- Silicon Innovation 300mmWafer QuadCoreStructer Customer Focused R&D AMD uses a differentiated approach to submicron process technology research and development that is efficient, practical and highly effective. This approach results in AMD’s continued leadership in product performance-per-watt, combined with consistently high wafer yields using many of today’s most advanced submicron technologies. AMD Strained Silicon Technologies Strained Silicon increases transistor performance by enhancing the transport properties of the electrical charge carriers in the channel region of the transistor. Electrons (or holes) can “transport” more quickly through the transistor, thereby improving overall performance without increasing leakage and therefore power. * AMD Second-Generation Stained Silicon: In December 2004, AMD and IBM revealed a breakthrough called “dual stress liners” that involves a new method of simultaneously straining both N-channel and P-channel transistors (the primary components of today’s digital integrated circuits) to deliver processors with increasing levels of performance, and at power levels consistent with or lower than former chips. * AMD Third-Generation Strained Silicon in Production at 65nm: In December 2005, AMD unveiled its third-generation strained silicon technologies, which were jointly developed with IBM and now in use on AMD’s advanced 65nm products. * AMD Fourth-Generation Strained Silicon for 45nm: In December 2006, AMD and IBM presented fourth-generation strain technology and set records for the highest CMOS performance up to that point in a 45nm process technology. AMD Silicon-On-Insulator (SOI) Technologies AMD chose to use advanced SOI transistors starting with its eighth-generation designs. By using these faster, yet cooler, transistors, AMD continues to deliver higher-performance processors that operate at lower wattage levels and generate less heat than would otherwise be possible using standard bulk silicon. Ultra-Low-K Dielectrics In December 2006, IBM and AMD presented joint work on the use of ultra-low-K interconnect dielectrics and multiple enhanced transistor strain techniques for application to the 45nm microprocessor process generation. The addition of ultra-low-K interconnect provides a 15 percent reduction in wiring-related delay as compared to conventional low-K dielectrics. Immersion Lithography AMD’s 45nm strategy calls for the use of immersion lithography to produce increasingly complex designs at finer geometries and enhanced chip-level performance. Immersion lithography provides increased depth of focus and improved image fidelity that can improve chip-level performance and manufacturing efficiency. High-K Metal Gates Many of the traditional materials used in semiconductor manufacturing have started to reach physical limits in how much more they can be scaled smaller or thinner without sacrificing transistor power consumption or performance. For example, at the gate of the transistor, new high-k dielectrics can increase capacitance (higher capacitance = higher drive current and higher performance) without increasing leakage current at the very thin dimensions. The addition of metal gates, along with high-K, provides AMD with an additional tool to further improve performance and power efficiency within the 45nm or 32nm node generations, depending on when it is needed to meet customer requirements. AMD and IBM, strategic partners, collaborate to develop the latest advancements in High-K Metal Gate technology. Da scaricare: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...sentation2.pdf Beh, da come si presenta... spezzeranno il cuore a parecchi "gufi" che gufavano sulle caratteristiche del 45nm AMD ed idem sui tempi di rilascio... Prevedo tempi molto duri per SysifSandra... ![]() ![]()
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