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Hotel California
Diciamocelo pure: 2 o 3 serate di san remo mi hanno già abbondantemente saturato lo sc... . Cosi' mi sono rifugiato in cameretta ed ho coperto i gemiti provenienti dalla tv prima con santana , poi con gli scorpions e poi ho riascoltato x l'ennesima volta hotel california... qundo mi è venuta volgia di tradurla ho ripreso il testo in inglese, la traduzione nonostante mi sia risultata piuttosto semplice nel suo risultato finale nn sembra affatto di senso compiuto...qualcuno mi sa spiegare il significato del testo?
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Da una traduzione sul web...
Su un'autostrada buia e deserta, con il vento fresco tra i capelli un caldo profumo di colitas, si solleva nell'aria più avanti in lontananza, vidi una luce scintillante la mia testa divenne pesante e la mia vista si indebolì dovetti fermarmi per la notte Lei stava sulla soglia ed io udii il campanello d'allarme mentre pensavo tra me 'potrebbe essere il paradiso o potrebbe essere l'inferno' poi lei accese la candela e mi mostrò la strada si udivano nelle voci nei corridoi e credevo che dicessero.... Benvenuto all'Hotel California un posto così amabile un volto così amabile ci sono tante camere all'Hotel California in ogni momento dell'anno puoi trovarne una La sua mente è perversa, ha le curvature di una Mercedes ha tanti bei ragazzi che chiama amici danzano nel cortile, sudati per la dolce estate alcuni danzano per ricordare, altri per dimenticare Chiamai il Capitano, 'Per favore, mi porti del vino', lui disse 'non abbiamo quel tipo di bevanda dal 1969' ed ancora quelle voci si facevano udire da lontano ti svegliavano nel mezzo della notte solo per sentirle sussurrare... Benvenuto all'Hotel California un posto così amabile un volto così amabile si stanno divertendo molto all'Hotel California che bella sorpresa, ti porge le sue scuse Specchi sul soffitto champagne rosato sul ghiaccio e lei disse 'Noi siamo tutti prigionieri del nostro nuovo congegno'* e nella camera del padrone si sono raccolti per il banchetto lo trafiggono con i loro coltelli in acciaio ma non possono uccidere la bestia L'ultima cosa che ricordo è che stavo correndo verso la porta cercai il passaggio che mi riportasse indietro nel posto in cui ero prima 'Rilassati' disse l'uomo della notte** noi siamo programmati per ricevere tu puoi lasciare l'albergo quando vuoi, ma non potrai mai abbandonarci*** *qui avrei tradotto 'siamo tutti prigionieri di noi stessi' ** l'addetto al turno di notte dell'albergo *** ma non puoi andartene bella canzone in ogni caso... ![]()
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Come potrai leggere in giro nel web questa canzone è famosa anche per il suo sospetto, nonchè probabile, senso satanico. Nulla di stravolgente, comunque. L'Hotel California (di cui ci sono anche delle foto in giro) è un Hotel abbastanza sperduto nel quale si mormora che in passato avvenivano sedute sataniche, era un po' un punto fisso per gli amanti di queste allegre combricole. Sembra anche poi che il cantante degli Eagles al tempo della canzone era avvezzo a queste pratiche o quanto meno attirato dall'indubbio fascino malefico del diavolo. Conferme ufficiali naturalmente non ce ne sono, ma i rumors circolanti sono ben più che dei "sentito dire".
E se rileggi il testo in questa seconda ottica, capirai come il fascino sinistro della cretura ("..the beast...") sia presente dall'inizio alla fine, con l'Hotel California che diventa come una trappola seducente da cui, una volta entrati, non si riesce più ad uscire. Le tentazioni sono le solite: la donna, i soldi, la macchina (la Mercedes), la voglia di piacere, etc... Tra i tanti doppi sensi io segnalo quello bellissimo "'...non abbiamo quel tipo di bevanda dal 1969...", nel quale bevanda (più alcool che bevanda, in realtà...) in inglese è "spirit", che è anche un palese segno religioso...Ma tutta la canzone giocata su questa ambivalenza è stupenda ![]()
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direi anche che wine si traduce vino, alias il sangue di cristo!
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qualche link?
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raga scaricando il testo della canzone con evilLyrics...guardate un po' che trovo:
il testo Hotel California On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim I had to stop for the night There she stood in the doorway; I heard the mission bell And I was thinking to myself, \'This could be Heaven or this could be Hell\' Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way There were voices down the corridor, I thought I heard them say... Welcome to the Hotel California Such a lovely place Such a lovely face Plenty of room at the Hotel California Any time of year, you can find it here Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat. Some dance to remember, some dance to forget So I called up the Captain, \'Please bring me my wine\' He said,\'We haven\'t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine\' And still those voices are calling from far away, Wake you up in the middle of the night Just to hear them say... Welcome to the Hotel California Such a lovely place Such a lovely face They livin\' it up at the Hotel California What a nice surprise, bring your alibis Mirrors on the ceiling, The pink champagne on ice And she said \'We are all just prisoners here, of our own device\' And in the master\'s chambers, They gathered for the feast The stab it with their steely knives, But they just can\'t kill the beast Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door I had to find the passage back To the place I was before \'Relax,\'said the night man, We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave! e poi anche questo: --------------------------------------- Wasted Time Well baby, there you stand With your little head, down in your hand Oh, my God, you can\'t believe it\'s happening again Your baby\'s gone, and you\'re all alone and it looks like the end. And you\'re back out on the street. And you\'re tryin\' to remember. How will you start it over? You don\'t know what became. You don\'t care much for a stranger\'s touch, But you can\'t hold your man. You never thought you\'d be alone this far down the line And I know what\'s been on your mind You\'re afraid it\'s all been wasted time The autumn leaves have got you thinking about the first time that you fell You didn\'t love the boy too much, no, no you just loved the boy to well, Farewell So you live from day to day, and you dream about tomorrow, oh. And the hours go by like minutes and the shadows come to stay So you take a little something to make them go away And I could have done so many things, baby If I could only stop my mind from wondrin\' what I left behind and from worrying \'bout theis wasted time Ooh, another love has come and gone Ooh, and the years keep rushing on I remeber what you told me before you went out on your own: \"Sometimes to keep it together, we got to leave it alone.\" So you can get on with your search,baby, and I can get on with mine And maybe someday we will find , that it wasn\'t really wasted time Mm,hm Oh hoo, ooh, ohh, Ooh,ooh, mm Pretty Maids All In A Row Hi there, How are \'ya? it\'s been a long time My, but we learn so slow and heroes, they come and they go and leave us behind as if we\'re s\'pposed to know why Why do we give up our hearts to the past? and why must we grow up so fast? And all you wishing well fools with your fortunes someone should send you a rose with love from a friend, it\'s nice to here from you again And the storybook comes to a close Gone are the ribbons and bows Things to remember places to go Pretty Maids all in a Row Oh, oh oh, oh...... I Can\'t Tell You Why Look at us baby, up all night Tearing our love apart Aren\'t we the same two people who live through years in the dark? Ahh... Every time I try to walk away Something makes me turn around and stay And I can\'t tell you why When we get crazy, it just ain\'t to right, (try to keep you head, little girl) Girl, I get lonely,too You don\'t have to worry Just hold on tight (don\'t get caught in your little world) \'Cause I love you Nothing\'s wrong as far as I can see We make it harder than it has to be and I can\'t tell you why no, baby, I can\'t tell you why I can\'t tell you why No,no, baby, I can\'t tell you why I can\'t tell you why I can\'t tell you why New York Minute Harry got up Dressed all in black Went down to the station And he never came back They found his clothing Scattered somewhere down the track And he won\'t be down on Wall Street in the morning He had a home The love of a girl But men get lost sometimes As years unfold One day he crossed some line And he was too much in this world But I guess it doesn\'t matter anymore In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute Things can get pretty strange In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute Lying here in the darkness I hear the sirens wail Somebody going to emergency Somebody\'s going to jail If you find somebody to love in this world You better hand on tooth and nail The wolf is always at the door In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute Things can get a little strange In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute And in these days When darkness falls early And people rush home To the ones they love You better take a fool\'s advice And tak care of your own One day they\'re here; Next day they\'re gone I pulled my coat around my shoulders And took a walk down through the park The leaves were falling around me The groaning city in the gathering dark On some solitary rock A desperate lover left his mark, \"Baby, I\'ve changed. Please come back.\" What the head makes cloudy The heart makes very clear The days were so much brighter In the time when she was here But I know there\'s somebody somewhere Make these dark clouds disappear Until that day, I have to believe I believe, I believe In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute You can get out of the rain In a New York Minute Everything can change In a New York Minute The Last Resort She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island Where the old world shadows hand heavy in the air She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee Just as her father came across the sea She heard about a place people were simlin\' They spoke about the red man\'s way, and how they loved the land And they came from everywhere to the Great Divide Seeking a place to stand or a place to hide Down in the crowded bars, out for a good time, Can\'t wait to tell you all, what it\'s like up there And they called it paradise I don\'t know why Somebody laid the mountains low while the town got high Then the chilly winds blew down Across the desert through the canyons of the coast, to the Malibu Where the pretty people play, hungry for power to light their neon way and give them things to do Some rich men came and raped the land, Nobody caught \'em Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus, people bought \'em And they called it paradise The place to be They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina just like the missionaries did, so many years ago They even brought a neon sign:\"Jesus is coming\" Brought the white man\'s burden down Brought the white man\'s reign Who will provide the grand design? What is yours and what is mine? \'Cause there is no more new frontier We have got to make it here We satifsy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds, in the name of destiny and the name of God And you can see them there, On Sunday morning They call it paradise I don\'t know why You call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye Take it Easy Well, I\'m running down the road tryin\' to loosen my load I\'ve got seven women on my mind, Four that wanna own me, Two that wanna stone me, One says she\'s a friend of mine Take It easy, take it easy Don\'t let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy Lighten up while you still can don\'t even try to understand Just find a place to make your stand and take it easy Well, I\'m a standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona and such a fine sight to see It\'s a girl, my Lord, in a flatbed Ford slowin\' down to take a look at me Come on, baby, don\'t say maybe I gotta know if your sweet love is gonna save me We may lose and we may win though we will never be here again so open up, I\'m climbin\' in, so take it easy Well I\'m running down the road trying to loosen my load, got a world of trouble on my mind lookin\' for a lover who won\'t blow my cover, she\'s so hard to find Take it easy, take it easy don\'t let the sound of your own wheels make you crazy come on baby don\'t say maybe I gotta know if your sweet love is gonna save me, oh oh oh Oh we got it easy We oughta take it easy In the City Somewhere out there on that horizon Our beyond the neon lights I know there must be somethin\' better but there\'s nowhere else in sight It\'s survival in the city When you live from day to day City streets don\'t have much pity When you\'re down, that\'s where you\'ll stay In the city,oh,oh. In the city I was born here in the city With my back against the wall Nothing grows, and life ain\'t very pretty No one\'s there to catch you when you fall Somewhere out on that horizon Faraway from the neon sky I know there must be somethin\' better And I can\'t stay another night In the city,oh,oh. In the city Life In The Fast Lane He was a hard-headed man He was brutally handsome, and she was teminally pretty She held him up, and he held her for ransome in the heart of the cold, cold city He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude They had one thing in common, they were good in bed She\'d say, \'Faster,faster. The lights are turnin\' red.\" Life in the fast lane Surely make you lose your mind, mm Are you with me so far? Eager for action and bot for the game The coming attraction, the drop of a name They knew all the right people, they took all the right pills They threw outrageous parties, they paid heavily bills. There were lines on the mirror, lines on her face She pretended not to notice, she was caught up in the race Out every evening, until it was light He was too tired to make it, she was too tired to fight about it Life in the fast lane Surely make you lse your mind Life in the fast lane, everything all the time Life in the fast lane, uh huh Blowin\' and burnin\', blinded by thirst They didn\'t see the stop sign, took a turn for the worst. She said, \"Listen, baby.You can hear the engine ring.We\'ve been up and down this highway; haven\'t seen a goddam thing.\" He said,\"Call the doctor. I think I\'m gonna crash.\" \"The doctor say he\'s comin\', but you gotta pay him cash.\" They went rushin\' down that freeway, messed around and got lost They didn\'t know they were just dyin\' to get off And it was life in the fast lane Life in the fast lane Desperado Desperado, why don\'t you come to your senses? You been out ridin\' fences for so long now Oh, you\'re a hard one I know that you got your reasons These things that are pleasin\' you Can hurt you somehow Don\' you draw the queen of diamonds, boy She\'ll beat you if she\'s able You know the queen of heats is always your best bet Now it seems to me, some fine things Have been laid upon your table But you only want the ones that you can\'t get Desperado, oh, you ain\'t gettin\' no youger Your pain and your hunger, they\'re drivin\' you home And freedom, oh freedom well, that\'s just some people talkin\' Your prison is walking through this world all alone Don\'t your feet get cold in the winter time? The sky won\'t snow and the sun won\'t shine It\'s hard to tell the night time from the day You\'re loosin\' all your highs and lows Ain\'t it funny how the feeling goes away? Desperado, why don\'t you come to your senses? Come down from your fences, open the gate It may be rainin\', but there\'s a rainbow above you You better let somebody love you, before it\'s too late E' un errore del programma o centra qualcosa con la canzone? nn ho ancora avuto modo di tradurre
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è notoriamente una canzone satanista, l' "hotel california" era un albergo californiano in cui si svolgevano regolarmente delle sedute sataniche della setta di LaVey
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