[3d uniti] Striscia di Gaza

[M@aster]

Originariamente inviato da jpjcssource

Sembra che la scuola non fosse in funzione, ma fosse usata comunque come riparo dai civli perchè, secondo i sopravvissuti, la consideravano sicura.

Mi chiedo più che altro come mai tali civili, vedendo miliziani che cominciavano a sparare di fianco al loro riparo non abbiano evacuato l'edificio sapendo che certamente l'artiglieria israeliana avrebbe colpito in quel punto.

Beh perchè ovviamente erano destinati a morire per proteggere i miliziani terroristi di Hamas.

Adesso sono diventati martiri e si trovano in paradiso con le vergini e con la ricchezza.

[dantes76]

Originariamente inviato da F1R3BL4D3

Ipotizzando (per assurdo): poteva essere quello un riparo per i bambini.

ecco perche hamas sparava da li...

[easyand]

Originariamente inviato da cocis

e già . .lanciano razzi dalle ambulanze .. dalle scuole .. dagli ospedali mobili ... fra un pò lanceranno razzi anceh dai cimiteri ..

IDF released a photo of an RPG launcher that was hidden in a school yard in Sajaeiya district in the northern Gaza strip.

[aletlinfo]

Per israele è fondamentale tenere più bassa possibile la percentuale di perdite civili. Per hamas è vero l'opposto.
Questa guerra si gioca sui numeri; se le perdite della popolazione palestinese aumenta la pressione internazionale per israele sarà ingestibile.
La scuola centrata a Jabaliya dagli israeliani è proprio il tipo di errore che deve evitare israele.

E hamas sta giocando proprio su questo fattore, tenersi più vicino possibile a abitazioni scuole e usare le ambulanze per spostarsi per indurre gli israeliani in errori simili.

[M@aster]

Poveri civili uccisi dalle azioni di Hamas...

E pensare che loro credevano veramente che Hamas potesse cambiare in meglio la situazione palestinese....

Tante promesse e pochi fatti...

[SaettaC]

Originariamente inviato da aletlinfo

Per israele è fondamentale tenere più bassa possibile la percentuale di perdite civili. Per hamas è vero l'opposto.
Questa guerra si gioca sui numeri; se le perdite della popolazione palestinese aumenta la pressione internazionale per israele sarà ingestibile.
La scuola centrata a Jabaliya dagli israeliani è proprio il tipo di errore che deve evitare israele.

E hamas sta giocando proprio su questo fattore, tenersi più vicino possibile a abitazioni scuole e usare le ambulanze per spostarsi per indurre gli israeliani in errori simili.

Quoto.

[dantes76]

lol.. sentito adesso, su rainews24.. hamas sarebbe favorevole a una mediazione turca[ la stessa che nelle ultime 24 ore ha sgasato qualche curdo, e che si e' scandalizzata dalla reazione israeliana] per una tregua.. si una tregua come quella degli ultimi 6 mesi...

[M@aster]

Originariamente inviato da dantes76

lol.. sentito adesso, su rainews24.. hamas sarebbe favorevole a una mediazione turca[ la stessa che nelle ultime 24 ore ha sgasato qualche curdo, e che si e' scandalizzata dalla reazione israeliana] per una tregua.. si una tregua come quella degli ultimi 6 mesi...

Certo che i Turchi hanno fatto una strage di curdi ... Sono loro i primi a dover stare zitti e non pronunciarsi ...

[dantes76]

(ANSA) - TEL AVIV, 6 GEN - Per sfuggire al fuoco israeliano alcuni dirigenti di Hamas hanno cercato riparo in un ospedale di Gaza e in edifici vicini ad istituzioni internazionali fra cui la Croce Rossa e organizzazioni dell’Onu. Lo scrive il quotidiano ‘Haaretz’. Da fonti palestinesi a Gaza il giornale ha appreso che dirigenti di Hamas sono stati visti nei giorni scorsi nel dipartimento di ostetricia dell’ospedale Shifa di Gaza. Proprio al Shifa, secondo ‘Haaretz’, Hamas ha improvvisato conferenze stampa, nella persuasione che l’ospedale non sarebbe stato colpito da Israele. Il giornale israeliano sostiene che i miliziani di Hamas hanno intenzionalmente attaccato le forze israeliane dall’ interno di rioni fittamente abitati.

[dantes76]

Hamas "filtra" gli aiuti umanitari...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...651783,00.html

Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid
Roee Nahmias

A government or a gang? As the Israeli operation in Gaza wears on it appears Hamas has relinquished any visage of a socio-political party, abandoning its claim to govern the residents of Gaza in favor of engaging in open war at their expense.


Case In Point
IDF: Mortars fired from bombed school / Hanan Greenberg
While UN spokesman reports at least 30 casualties from attack near UNRWA school in Jabalya, army claims strike targeted terrorists firing mortar shells from structure moments earlier
Full Story
A number of reports from the Strip paint a picture of very difficult humanitarian conditions, not least because of Hamas itself. The suspicion is that the group's operatives have seized control of any supplies passing through the crossings – including those sent by Israel and international organizations.


Reports say Hamas takes a cut out of all aid that arrives, including flour and medicine. Supplies intended to be distributed without gain among the population is seized by the group and sold to the residents, at a profit to the Hamas government.


One such incident was recorded Monday, when a convoy of trucks carrying supplies through the Kerem Shalom crossing was opened fire upon and seized by Hamas gunmen. Similar incidents occurred with trucks carrying fuel.


Forced to flee. Residents of Gaza (Photo: AP)


In other cases, civilians are simply used as cannon fodder or human shields. Reports out of Gaza say residents who attempted to flee their homes in the northern area of the Strip were forced to go back at gunpoint, by Hamas men.


The organization is presumably interested in increasing civilian casualties in order to give rise to international pressure against Israel. Arab media reported that in an IDF strike on a UN school 30 civilians were killed, but there is no legitimate way to prove gunmen were among those killed as Hamas tends to bury these bodies quickly, thus eliminating evidence in Israel's favor.


Other civilian complaints state that Hamas gunmen pull children along with them "by the ears" from place to place, fearing that if they don't have a child with them they will be fair game to the IDF. Others hide in civilian homes and stairwells, UNRWA ambulances, and mosques.


In other reported cases Hamas gunmen hold civilians hostage in alleyways in order to provide themselves with a living barricade to ward off IDF forces. Reports somewhat more difficult to verify say the group's men shot Fatah operatives in the feet to make sure the latter would not attempt a coup.


No one to turn to

These reports lead to the assumption that Hamas is attempting to exacerbate the atmosphere of a humanitarian crisis in the Strip, as this may promote an international ceasefire initiative. In any case the reports clearly show that the residents of Gaza have fallen prey to Hamas as well as the IDF.


Reports of alarming shortages are also forthcoming, as residents appear to lack water, flour, electricity, and any sign of a capable government. Chaos reigns as no one appears to know when electricity will be available, how to obtain water or food, or whom to address in order to evacuate the injured.


The "emergency numbers" given to residents have ceased to function, and citizens in need of assistance have only international organizations, the Red Crescent, and the hospitals themselves to turn to.


The Hamas leaders, aside from two addresses, have not been heard from. Their speeches were broadcast a number of times, but in any case many in the Strip can no longer access televisions, radios, or internet without electricity.


Despite this, no authoritative anti-Hamas sentiments have been heard from the Gazans. However Palestinian sources claim that grievances against the group are voiced in secret. The animosity towards Israel has not disappeared, say the sources, but it is now accompanied by bitterness towards the organization many are dubbing Iranian in its extremism.

[Kharonte85]

Originariamente inviato da Fritz!

Fallimento strategico

E’ un’accusa pesante, quella rivolta da Gideon Rachman, un columnist del Financial Times, a Israele. Nel suo articolo di oggi, il commentatore più autorevole del quotidiano finanziario britannico sugli affari internazionali non critica lo Stato ebraico per una reazione sproporzionata alla minaccia, o per eccessivo uso della forza, o per le sempre più pesanti perdite di civili - ma per avere sbagliato strategia. L’operazione militare a Gaza, afferma, otterrà il risultato opposto di quello che il governo di Gerusalemme si era prefissato: ossia rafforzerà Hamas, indebolirà Israele e allontanerà la pace.

Vale la pena di riassumere la sua analisi (prima di decidere se si è d’accordo o meno), perchè è comunque stimolante. Quali sono, comincia a dire Rachman, i bisogni strategici di Israele? Primo: proteggere i suoi cittadini. Secondo: stabilire, o ristabilire se è stato incrinato, il proprio potere di deterrenza, ossia di dissuadere nemici dall’attaccarlo. Terzo: mantenere un ampio sostegno internazionale. Quarto: avere qualche prospettiva di una pace durevole.

Sul primo punto: Israele rischia di perdere, con l’operazione a Gaza, e in particolare con l’offensiva di terra, molte più vite dei 4 israeliani uccisi dai razzi di Hamas nell’ultimo anno. Perdere soldati in battaglia, naturalmente, è il lavoro di ogni esercito, ma un sondaggio condotto alla vigilia dell’offensiva a Gaza riflette il fatto che quello israeliano è un esercito di popolo, un esercito di leva, che la sera va a casa col fucile in spalla: il 70 per cento della popolazione era favorevole ai bombardamenti, ma solo il 20 per cento all’attacco terrestre. Secondo punto: ad Hamas basterà riuscire a lanciare un solo razzo contro Israele, dopo questa guerra, per sostenere di avere vinto, o perlomeno di non essere stata sconfitta e distrutta, che dal suo punto di vista equivale a una vittoria. Avrà pagato un prezzo altissimo per questo, ma per un’organizzazione votata al “martirio”, ossia a uccidersi pur di uccidere anche un solo nemico, questo è un onore. Il deterrente di Israele potrebbe risultarne indebolito anzichè rafforzato. Terzo punto: Israele ha ricevuto relativamente poche critiche all’inizio dei bombardamenti. Nessun paese accetterebbe di essere bombardato all’infinito dal suo vicino di casa al di là del confine, senza reagire. Ma le critiche crescono di ora in ora, soltanto l’America (di Bush) continua ad appoggiare l’operazione militare e non è detto che l’America di Obama lo farebbe alla stessa maniera (e adesso l’Onu, dopo la morte di 30 civili in una sua scuola a Gaza, ha chiesto l’apertura di un’inchiesta internazionale). Lo Stato ebraico si ritrova isolato. Quarto punto: Israele spera che la popolazione di Gaza si rivolti contro Hamas, vera causa di tutti i danni, i morti, il sangue sofferto dai palestinesi in questi giorni. E spera che una perdita di popolarità di Hamas aumenti le prospettive di pace. Ma ogni violenza contro gli israeliani ha sempre reso l’opinione pubblica israeliana più battagliera, più ostile ai palestinesi, rafforzando il partito dei “falchi” anzichè quello delle “colombe”: perchè mai, si chiede il columnist del FT, i palestinesi dovrebbero reagire in modo differente? E comunque, anche se Hamas venisse distrutta, qualsiasi governo palestinese che andasse al potere a Gaza grazie a ciò sarebbe moralmente inaccettabile agli occhi della sua popolazione.

La frequente risposta israeliana a qualcuna di queste obiezioni è che comunque non c’era alternativa: bisognava pur fare qualcosa per fermare i razzi e cambiare la situazione a Gaza. Ma un’alternativa, sostiene Rachman, in realtà esisteva: rilassare il blocco di Gaza, in cambio di un rinnovamento della tregua con Hamas scaduta a dicembre. Questa, a suo giudizio, rimaneva l’opzione migliore, non solo dal punto di vista umanitario, ma anche da quello degli interessi strategici di Israele: ossia non solo per compiacere l’Onu e i pacifisti a oltranza, ma per rafforzare lo Stato ebraico.

Si può concordare o meno con questa analisi, ma comunque voglio riferire anche l’anneddoto con cui Gideon Rachman conclude il suo articolo. L’ultima volta che il columnist ha visitato i territori palestinesi, ha fatto la conoscenza di un palestinese laico, istruito, che ha vissuto e lavorato negli Stati Uniti, e che però gli ha detto di avere deciso di votare per Hamas alla prossima occasione. Meravigliato, il columnist gli ha chiesto perchè. Risposta: “Perchè tutti i giorni gli israeliani trovano un modo diverso di dirci ‘fuck you’. Votando per Hamas, dico loro ‘fuck you back’”. Commenta Rachman: “Mi sembra un efficace riassunto della tragica logica autolesionista che giace dietro la nuova guerra di Gaza”.

http://franceschini.blogautore.repubblica.it/

Originariamente inviato da Fritz!

E' lungo, ma é un bellissimo intervento di un rabbino sulla guerra e soprattutto su come uscirne.

http://files.tikkun.org/current/arti...90102124321774

Rabbi Lerner on Israel in Gaza


Israel in Gaza
By Rabbi Michael Lerner
January 5, 2009

Israel is still using a strategy of domination in its struggle with Hamas, trying to use force to gain security. But this is a recipe for endless war.


Israel’s attempt to wipe out Hamas is understandable, but it cannot work.

No country in the world is going to ignore the provocation of rockets being launched from neighboring territory day after day. If Mexico had a group of anti-imperialist South Americans bombing Texas, imagine how long it would take for the US to mobilize a counter-attack. Israel has every right to respond.

But the kind of response matters.

Massive bombings of the sort that have thus far killed over 400 Palestinians and wounded 1,000 other civilians is a classic example of a disproportionate response.

Before Israel’s massive bombing, the Hamas bombings that began when the previous ceasefire ran out had not (thank God) killed any one. The reason is obvious: Hamas has no airplanes, no tanks, nothing more than the weapons of the powerless—limited range mortars with limited accuracy. Hamas can harass, but it cannot pose any threat to the existence of Israel. And just as Hamas’ indiscriminate bombing of population centers is a crime against humanity, so is Israel’s massive attack against civilians (in addition to those killed thus far in Gaza, there are the thousands killed by Israel in the years of the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza). Israel's human rights violations during the cease fire included a massive cut off of food and other vital necessities--a crime against international law.

On the other hand, any understanding of the situation must also include acknowledgment of the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder faced by Israelis living under the constant threat of terrorism, to which the katyushka bombings, however ineffective militarily, contribute massively. Living under constant threat of attack, plus hearing the leader of Iran talk about wiping Israel off the map, is a background condition that shapes Israelis ability to be so insensitive to the human damage they have caused by the Occupation. Conversely, the ongoing trauma of expulsion and the Occupation that has contributed to the ongoing ethical insensitivity of many Palestinians to the suffering that they cause Israelis by engaging in terror attacks against civilians. In short, compassion for both sides is a desparate necessity.

Hamas had respected the previously negotiated ceasefire except when Israel used the ceasefire as cover to make assassination raids against Hamas and other Palestinian leaders. Arguing that these raids were hardly a manifestation of ceasefire, Hamas would, as symbolic protest, allow the release of rocket fire (usually hitting no targets). But when the issue of continuing the ceasefire came up, Hamas wanted a guarantee that these assassination raids would stop. And it asked for more. With hundreds of thousands of Palestinians facing acute malnutrition bordering on starvation, Hamas insisted that the borders be opened to counter Israeli attempts to starve the Gazans into submission. And in return for the captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, it asks for the release of a thousand Palestinians imprisoned in Israel.

Hamas has made it clear that it would accept the terms of the Saudi Arabian peace agreement, though it would never formally recognize Israel. It would live peacefully in a two state arrangement, but it would never acknowledge Israel’s “right to exist.” This position is unnecessarily provocative, and represents deep self-destructiveness on the part of Palestinians who believe that this failure to acknowledge Israel’s rights is the only symbolic weapon they have left. To many Israelis, trapped in their own history as survivors of genocide and oppression, Hamas’ refusal to give official recognition is a way of saying, “We’ll wait till we have adequate military power, and then we’ll break any de facto truce and ceasefire and use that power to wipe out Israel, so just give us time.” Some Hamas people have actually said that publicly. Similarly, there are members of the Knesset who say that they will never accept anything less than the total expulsion ("transfer") of all Palestinians to neighboring Arab states.

Israel seeks to wipe out Hamas. But even if it killed every one of Hamas' twenty-thousand members in Gaza, it would not extinguish the impulse toward Islamic fundamentalism that Hamas represents. Surely Israelis by now know that killing only creates new generations of angry people who will be the next wave of terrorists. So what does Israel really seek? Probably it hopes to make Hamas so powerless that it loses the election against Fatah, and then the Palestinian Authority, itself deeply weakened by Israel's ongoing occupation, will negotiate a peace treaty that creates a "Palestinian state" that is actually a series of cantons or little separated city-states that are themselves cut off from each other by Israeli roads and military--in short a Palestinian state that will be neither economically nor politically viable. Then Israel can claim to have "given" the Palestinians "waht they want," and meanwhile Israel will retain its settlements throughout the West Bank and continue de facto control. Yet this will not generate long-term peace, but only a temporary rest in the fighting. Only a fully just settlement that allows Palestinians a real state that incorporates all of the West Bank and Gaza (with minor border modifications as detailed in the Geneva Accord of 2003) and that provides real compensation for Palestinian refugees, and a state created in a spirit of generosity and genuine caring on the part of Israel, will end the violence and provide Israel with lasting safety.

Let me be clear. I hate Hamas and everything it stands for. I want to see it defeated. But that defeat can only happen politically through isolation, not militarily through slaughter. The way to defeat Hamas is through meeting the legitimate needs of the Palestinian people and doing so in a spirit of genuine caring, in which the Jews of the world and the ISraeli people show that they recognize Palestinians as our brothers and sisters, made in God's image and equally precious to God as the Jewish people. In short, by Jews taking seriously our reliance on God and God's message that the world should be based on love, generosity, caring, kindness, and compassion. In short, a reversal of the reliance on power that has not brought Israel safety or security, and a trust in the fundamental decency of the majority of Palestinians. This is what it would mean for Jews to take seriously our own Judaism and manifest it in a Jewish state.

How do we get out of these dynamics that lead to the current situation in which a small number of Israelis and a huge number of Palestinians are killed or maimed?

The first step is for the world to demand an immediate ceasefire. That ceasefire should be imposed by the United Nations and backed unequivocally by the US. Its terms must include the following:

A. Hamas stops all firing of missiles, bombs, or any other violent action originating from the West Bank or Gaza, and cooperates in actively jailing anyone from any faction that attempts to break this ceasefire from territory controlled by Hamas;

B. Israel stops all bombing, targeted assassinations, or any other violent actions aimed at activists, militants, or suspected terrorists in the West Bank or Gaza, and uses the full force of its army to prevent any further attacks on Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza, including Hebron, from any Israeli citizen or anyone based in territory under the effective control of Israel;

C. Israel opens the border with Gaza and allows free access to and from Israel by Gazans and Palestinians, subject only to full search and seizure of any weapons. Israel allows free travel of food, gas, electricity, water, and consumer goods and materials including from land, air, and sea, subject only to full search and seizure of any weapons or materials typically used for weapons;

D. Israel agrees to release all Palestinians held in detention with or without trial or in prison and to return those Palesitnians to the West Bank or Gaza according to the choice of the detainees or prisoners. Hamas agrees to release Gilad Shalit and anyone else being held involuntarily by Palestinian forces;

E. Both sides agree to invite an international force to implement these agreements;

F. Both sides agree to end teaching and/or advocacy of violence against the other side in and outside mosques, educational institutions, the press, the media, etc;

G. This cease-fire is agreed to for the next twenty years. NATO, the UN, and the US all agree to enforce this agreement and impose severe sanctions on either side should either be determined to be in violation of the conditions.

These steps would make a huge difference by isolating the most radical members of each side from the mainstream, making it possible to begin negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian people on a much broader and deeper set of issues.

The basic condition for creating peace is to help each side feel “safe” enough to ignore those within their own community who claim that peace is impossible and that no one cares about the safety of “the Jews,” or “the Palestinians.” A first and critical step is to speak in a language that is empathic toward the suffering of each people. Rather than try to prove that the Palestinians are “nothing but” terrorists or that Zionism is nothing but an elaborate scheme for continuing and escalating Western colonialism and imperialism, we must create a climate of discourse in which both sides’ stories are genuinely heard and undertstood. I’ve done this last part in my book Healing Israel/Palestine (North Atlantic Books, 2003).

Yet Israel, as the militarily superior power, ought to take the first steps to end this conflict once and for all. It could do that at any time by making the following moves:

1. Implementing a massive Marshall Plan in Gaza and in the West Bank to end poverty and unemployment, rebuild all that has been destroyed of the Palestinian infrastructure, and encourage investment in a new Palestinian economy;

2. Dismantle the settlements or tell the settlers unequivocally that they must become citizens of a Palestinian state, live by its laws, face charges if their settlements were constructed on land stolen from Palestinians, and that they will not be able to count on Israel to protect them;

3. Accept 30,000 Palestinian refugees back into Israel each year for the next thirty, a number that would not seriously endanger the population balance, apologize for its role in the 1948 expulsions of Palestinians (known as al Naqba), and offer to coordinate a worldwide effort to raise funds to compensate Palestinians for all that they lost during the Occupation (at least to those living in poverty--and conversely, there should be reparations to Jews who fled Arab lands, at least to those who are todaly living in poverty).

4. Recognize a Palestinian state within borders already defined by the Geneva Accord of 2003.

This is the only way Israel will ever achieve security. It is the only way to permanently defeat Hamas and all extremists who wish to see endless war against Israel. But it won’t happen until there is a massive shift in understanding about what promotes “security.”

Israelis have bought into a worldview about security that predominates in much of the world and is the central principle of American foreign policy: “homeland security can only be achieved by domination, either military, economic or diplomatic, of all those who might be potential adversaries.” It was this strategy of domination that led the US into the war in Iraq and that still leads some Obama advisers to believe that it would be wise to shift the focus of that war to Afghanistan and/or Pakistan. Yet the strategy of domination does not and cannot work in the 21st century.

The most significant contribution the new Obama Administration could make to Middle East Peace would be to embrace an alternative strategy: that homeland security is best achieved through generosity and caring for others. If the US were to announce its embrace of a Global Marshall Plan, beginning with the Middle East and backed up with money and the conscious articulation of a Strategy of Generosity, it would do more to help Israel than all the armaments it can promise and all the shuttle diplomacy it might facilitate. If this new way of thinking could become a major part of US policy, it would have an immense impact on undermining the fearful consciousness of Israelis who still see the world more through the frame of the Holocaust than through the frame of their actual present power in the world.

Meanwhile, it breaks my heart to see the terrible suffering in Gaza and Israel, as it does when witnessing the suffering brought to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Darfur—and the list goes one. For me as a religious Jew it is all the worse, because under the guise of serving God, both Jews and Arabs are actually acting out their accumulated pain in ways that will generate future suffering. At the same time Jews in the US who yearn to justify Israel’s actions only confirm to many young Jews that there is no place for them in the Jewish world if they hold a normal ethical sensibility, and further confirms to me how easy it is to pervert the loving message of Judaism into a message of hatred and domination. So I remain in mourning for the Jewish people, for Israel, and for the world.



Rabbi Michael Lerner is editor of Tikkun, a prominent progressive Jewish and interfaith magazine and chair of the interfaith Network of Spiritual Progressives.
Lerner has been described as "a prophetic voice" by the New York Times, Cornel West of Princeton, Jim Wallis of Sojourners, and the most recent of his 11 books, the New York Times bestseller The Left Hand of God, has been lauded by the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, and by Karen Armstrong, George Lakoff, Buddhist scholar Robert Thurman and Howard Zinn. Lerner has been one of the most prominent Jewish voices in opposition to the war in Iraq and in critiquing Israeli policy toward Palestinians

Finalmente 2 luci nel buio totale.

Io mi stupisco di come si faccia ancora oggi a non capirlo!

[M@aster]

Beh era ovvia una cosa del genere, perchè da terroristi ci si aspetta solo il peggio.

Vedendo il filmato sul lavaggio del cervello ai bambini, mi sono sconvolto parecchio, perchè non pensavo che Hamas fosse cosi codarda e infame al punto di schiavizzare i ragazzini con ideologie di terrore e omicidio.

[M@aster]

“E’ tutta colpa dell’assedio israeliano alla striscia di Gaza, Israele dovrebbe lasciar entrare gli aiuti”.



Israele ha sempre lasciato entrare gli aiuti, per tutto il tempo in cui è durato il cosiddetto “assedio” (non israeliano, bensì internazionale, visto che parte del confine della striscia di Gaza è controllato – e chiuso – dall’Egitto, e che è la comunità internazionale che ha dichiarato fuorilegge il regime golpista di Hamas). E poi Hamas ha fatto entrare di tutto, in questi anni, attraverso i tunnel scavati a centinaia (naturalmente avrebbero potuto introdurre più cibo e medicine se avessero evitato di introdurre armi e missili). Il risultato era quello che si è visto anche nelle immagini dei finti black-out elettrici (bambini per le strade di Gaza con le candele in mano mentre dietro di loro erano ben accese le insegne dei negozi; parlamentari riuniti al lume di candela mentre si intravedeva la luce del giorno dietro le tende alle finestre) o le immagini della cognata di Tony Blair che è sbarcata da una delle cinque imbarcazioni di manifestanti anti-israeliani (di fatto pro-Hamas) che Israele ha lasciato passare, e poi si è fatta fotografare in un ben fornito emporio di Gaza.
Quello imposto alla striscia di Gaza non è un “assedio”, bensì un regime di severe sanzioni: un tipico strumento cui si fa ricorso a livello internazionale proprio nel tentativo di scongiurare l’uso delle armi (reso invece inevitabile dall’intransigenza di Hamas). Un giorno prima di lanciare la controffensiva, Israele aveva lasciato passare decine di camion di aiuti verso la striscia di Gaza. Nei giorni successivi, con le operazioni anti-Hamas in pieno corso, ha lasciato transitare decine di camion, più del numero normale. In altri termini, Israele lascia passare gli aiuti alla popolazione civile di Gaza perché non sta combattendo contro di essa, ma contro Hamas. È difficile citare un altro caso di un paese in guerra che abbia favorito in questa misura gli aiuti alla parte nemica, fino al punto di curare nei propri ospedali e a proprie spese pazienti inviati dal territorio nemico.

[F1R3BL4D3]

Originariamente inviato da dantes76

ecco perche hamas sparava da li...

mmm non è una scusante per l'esercito però. Magari mezza scusante perchè ovviamente (neanche ci fosse bisogno di scriverlo) è comunque anche colpa di Hamas di fare queste cose.

Però alla fine i morti sono anche civili innocenti.

[Kharonte85]

Gaza: aperto corridoio umanitario

Lo annuncia il premier israeliano Ehud Olmert

(ANSA) - GERUSALEMME, 6 GEN - Un corridoio umanitario e' stato aperto a Gaza per far fronte alla crisi causata dall'offensiva militare di Israele.Lo ha annunciato il premier dello stato ebraico, Ehud Olmert. Intanto il segretario generale dell'Onu, Ban Ki-moon, ha detto che intende recarsi la prossima settimana in Israele, nei territori palestinesi e in alcuni paesi arabi. L'annuncio di Ban Ki-moon e' arrivato in apertura della riunione del Consiglio di Sicurezza dedicato al conflitto Israele-Hamas.

Era ora...

[dantes76]

Originariamente inviato da F1R3BL4D3

mmm non è una scusante per l'esercito però. Magari mezza scusante perchè ovviamente (neanche ci fosse bisogno di scriverlo) è comunque anche colpa di Hamas di fare queste cose.

Però alla fine i morti sono anche civili innocenti.

e secondo te, dovrebbe...

[dantes76]

Originariamente inviato da Kharonte85

Gaza: aperto corridoio umanitario

Lo annuncia il premier israeliano Ehud Olmert

(ANSA) - GERUSALEMME, 6 GEN - Un corridoio umanitario e' stato aperto a Gaza per far fronte alla crisi causata dall'offensiva militare di Israele.Lo ha annunciato il premier dello stato ebraico, Ehud Olmert. Intanto il segretario generale dell'Onu, Ban Ki-moon, ha detto che intende recarsi la prossima settimana in Israele, nei territori palestinesi e in alcuni paesi arabi. L'annuncio di Ban Ki-moon e' arrivato in apertura della riunione del Consiglio di Sicurezza dedicato al conflitto Israele-Hamas.

Era ora...

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Gerusalemme, 5 gen. (AP) - Israele ha dato il permesso a un convoglio di 80 camion di aiuti umanitari di entrare nella Striscia di Gaza dove è in corso un’offensiva terrestre contro gli estremisti islamici palestinesi di Hamas.

“Sono iniziati ad entrare dal valico di Kerem Shalom” nel sud, ha detto un portavoce dell’esercito israeliano. Gli aiuti comprendono cibo e medicinali inviati da Egitto, Giordania, Grecia e dalle agenzie delle Nazioni Unite. Anche il valico di Nahal Oz, nel nord, è stato aperto oggi per permettere il passaggio di 200mila litri di carburante, per le centrali elettriche di Gaza, e di 120 tonnellate di gas per cucinare.

Intanto anche il valico settentrionale di Erez è stato aperto per permettere a 200 palestinesi con passaporti stranieri di lasciare il territorio.

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considerando questo


Hamas "filtra" gli aiuti umanitari...

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Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid
Roee Nahmias

A government or a gang? As the Israeli operation in Gaza wears on it appears Hamas has relinquished any visage of a socio-political party, abandoning its claim to govern the residents of Gaza in favor of engaging in open war at their expense.


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A number of reports from the Strip paint a picture of very difficult humanitarian conditions, not least because of Hamas itself. The suspicion is that the group's operatives have seized control of any supplies passing through the crossings – including those sent by Israel and international organizations.


Reports say Hamas takes a cut out of all aid that arrives, including flour and medicine. Supplies intended to be distributed without gain among the population is seized by the group and sold to the residents, at a profit to the Hamas government.


One such incident was recorded Monday, when a convoy of trucks carrying supplies through the Kerem Shalom crossing was opened fire upon and seized by Hamas gunmen. Similar incidents occurred with trucks carrying fuel.


Forced to flee. Residents of Gaza (Photo: AP)


In other cases, civilians are simply used as cannon fodder or human shields. Reports out of Gaza say residents who attempted to flee their homes in the northern area of the Strip were forced to go back at gunpoint, by Hamas men.


The organization is presumably interested in increasing civilian casualties in order to give rise to international pressure against Israel. Arab media reported that in an IDF strike on a UN school 30 civilians were killed, but there is no legitimate way to prove gunmen were among those killed as Hamas tends to bury these bodies quickly, thus eliminating evidence in Israel's favor.


Other civilian complaints state that Hamas gunmen pull children along with them "by the ears" from place to place, fearing that if they don't have a child with them they will be fair game to the IDF. Others hide in civilian homes and stairwells, UNRWA ambulances, and mosques.


In other reported cases Hamas gunmen hold civilians hostage in alleyways in order to provide themselves with a living barricade to ward off IDF forces. Reports somewhat more difficult to verify say the group's men shot Fatah operatives in the feet to make sure the latter would not attempt a coup.


No one to turn to

These reports lead to the assumption that Hamas is attempting to exacerbate the atmosphere of a humanitarian crisis in the Strip, as this may promote an international ceasefire initiative. In any case the reports clearly show that the residents of Gaza have fallen prey to Hamas as well as the IDF.


Reports of alarming shortages are also forthcoming, as residents appear to lack water, flour, electricity, and any sign of a capable government. Chaos reigns as no one appears to know when electricity will be available, how to obtain water or food, or whom to address in order to evacuate the injured.


The "emergency numbers" given to residents have ceased to function, and citizens in need of assistance have only international organizations, the Red Crescent, and the hospitals themselves to turn to.


The Hamas leaders, aside from two addresses, have not been heard from. Their speeches were broadcast a number of times, but in any case many in the Strip can no longer access televisions, radios, or internet without electricity.


Despite this, no authoritative anti-Hamas sentiments have been heard from the Gazans. However Palestinian sources claim that grievances against the group are voiced in secret. The animosity towards Israel has not disappeared, say the sources, but it is now accompanied by bitterness towards the organization many are dubbing Iranian in its extremism.

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Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid

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Originariamente inviato da easyand

questo è da mettere bello evidente


Report: Hamas stealing aid supplies to sell to residents

Grim picture of Gazans' lives painted by reports emerging from Strip, claiming gunmen hiding in civilian homes, using residents as human shields, and hijacking trucks of humanitarian aid

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(ANSA) - TEL AVIV, 6 GEN - Per sfuggire al fuoco israeliano alcuni dirigenti di Hamas hanno cercato riparo in un ospedale di Gaza e in edifici vicini ad istituzioni internazionali fra cui la Croce Rossa e organizzazioni dell’Onu. Lo scrive il quotidiano ‘Haaretz’. Da fonti palestinesi a Gaza il giornale ha appreso che dirigenti di Hamas sono stati visti nei giorni scorsi nel dipartimento di ostetricia dell’ospedale Shifa di Gaza. Proprio al Shifa, secondo ‘Haaretz’, Hamas ha improvvisato conferenze stampa, nella persuasione che l’ospedale non sarebbe stato colpito da Israele. Il giornale israeliano sostiene che i miliziani di Hamas hanno intenzionalmente attaccato le forze israeliane dall’ interno di rioni fittamente abitati.