CpuMSR 0.85b (cambiare moltiplicatore e voltaggi da Windows)

subvertigo · 29-12-2003, 14:49

Ciao, qualcuno ha provato ad utilizzare questa utility che permette di settare moltiplicatore e voltaggi da Windows ??

il programma supporta questi chipset:
VIA: KT266A, KT333, KT400, KT600
SiS: SiS730, SiS735, SiS745, SiS746, SiS748

per info: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/html/CPUMSR_main.htm
download: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/BetaVersions/CPUMSR_0_85b.ZIP

fioriniflavio · 29-12-2003, 17:25

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da subvertigo
Ciao, qualcuno ha provato ad utilizzare questa utility che permette di settare moltiplicatore e voltaggi da Windows ??

il programma supporta questi chipset:
VIA: KT266A, KT333, KT400, KT600
SiS: SiS730, SiS735, SiS745, SiS746, SiS748

per info: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/html/CPUMSR_main.htm
download: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/BetaVersions/CPUMSR_0_85b.ZIP

anche io mi associo per sapere se qualcuno l'ha provato....

subvertigo · 29-12-2003, 18:13

Dai ragazzi !!
Qualche beta-Tester

beee · 29-12-2003, 18:15

L'ho appena provato, ma semplicemente non fa nulla....
Bye!

subvertigo · 29-12-2003, 18:30

come non fa nulla? che chipset hai?
hai provato a cambiare il moltiplicatore?

beee · 29-12-2003, 18:39

KT400 (MSI KT4AV)
Ho provato a variare il molti e la tensione, e in nessun caso ho visto qualche effetto. Mi sa che quel prg è 'leggermente' bacato.
Bye!

kbl · 29-12-2003, 20:40

testato su sys 735. non funzia.

isomen · 29-12-2003, 22:54

é quello che cercavo

lo stò scaricando in questo momento
lo provo e posto

CIAUZ

isomen · 29-12-2003, 23:53

Provato e naturalmente nn fa.. peccato

BUON ANNOa TUTTI e CIAUZ

silviobordieri · 02-01-2004, 11:19

il ho un gigabyte con kt600 con palomino xp1700+ e neanche a me funziona.

checo · 02-01-2004, 12:11

provato su sis 745 non va

stock · 02-01-2004, 13:23

nforce2 ultra 400 non va un c@zz

beee · 02-01-2004, 16:59

Dopo una decina di 'test' con configurazioni molto diverse direi che proprio non funziona......

Bye!

spaceboy · 02-01-2004, 18:11

bisogna moddare l'L5 no?

checo · 02-01-2004, 18:15

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da spaceboy
bisogna moddare l'L5 no?

dici?

lowenz · 02-01-2004, 18:44

Bisogna prima rendere MOBILE il processor, da quello che ho letto io, agendo sui ponticelli (L5 appunto, se mi ricordo bene).

checo · 02-01-2004, 19:16

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da lowenz
Bisogna prima rendere MOBILE il processor, da quello che ho letto io, agendo sui ponticelli (L5 appunto, se mi ricordo bene).

infatti non fa na piega il ragionamento.

come si fa?

Dumah Brazorf · 02-01-2004, 21:56

Esatto bisogna modificare gli L5 per renderlo Mobile.
Non sono però tutte rose e fiori dopo...

"However, changing desktop to mobile can cause some trouble. There may be some issues. First, BIOS may refuse to work with CPU it doesn't know (Mobile Athlon MP: that is if you do XP to MP and also desktop to mobile mods) or with CPU it doesn't support (Mobile Athlon XP: desktop to mobile). My motherboard, EPoX EP-8KRA2L with KT600 chipset, doesn't know Mobile Athlon MP and "sometimes" it knows Mobile Athlon XP. Why sometimes? Mobile Athlon XP processors have startup multiplier of 5x (FSB 100 MHz versions) or 6x (FSB 133 MHz versions) and my motherboard shows at POST CPU is Mobile Athlon only when I set multiplier to 5x or 6x. In other cases it just shows AMD K7 processor. The same applies to EPoX with KT333 chipset.

Personally, I do not expect any motherboard to fully recognize Mobile Athlon MP, since this CPU does not exist. Some motherboards may recognize Mobile Athlon XP, but there may be some troubles. The problem is motherboard somehow sets MSR values during boot. At least on my motherboard it sets them different while it recognizes CPU is not an ordinary desktop part. Name String is programmed wrongly, Halt and Stop Grant divisors are set differently.

The second problem is voltage.

On this photo of Mobile Athlon XP I can recognize L11 being Startup Voltage and L8 being Maximum Voltage. On a notebook, system is powered using startup voltage and startup multiplier. Then the BIOS is required to make transition to maximum voltage and maximum multiplier. Since desktop motherboard usually do not have required circuits to change voltage on the fly (eg. pins connecting to L8 are not connected on motherboard), this won't cause problems. But if your motherboard has required circuits and BIOS is also capable of recognizing mobile CPU and does P-States transitions, there may be serious problem with over-voltage. The problem is on desktop CPU L8 bridges are all closed, therefore defining maximum voltage possible (taking desktop VID codes it is 1.85V, taking mobile VID codes it is 2.00V). If the BIOS changed voltage to that level, it would be possible to damage CPU. So once again - if your motherboard supports on-the-fly voltage adjustments, your BIOS recognize your CPU as mobile one and the BIOS also does transition to maximum voltage after POST, then do something with it - modify BIOS not to do P-State transitions, cut some of L8 bridges according to VID codes.

29-12-2003, 14:49	#1
subvertigo Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 2002 Città: Milano Messaggi: 5062	CpuMSR 0.85b (cambiare moltiplicatore e voltaggi da Windows) Ciao, qualcuno ha provato ad utilizzare questa utility che permette di settare moltiplicatore e voltaggi da Windows ?? il programma supporta questi chipset: VIA: KT266A, KT333, KT400, KT600 SiS: SiS730, SiS735, SiS745, SiS746, SiS748 per info: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/html/CPUMSR_main.htm download: http://www.cpuheat.wz.cz/BetaVersions/CPUMSR_0_85b.ZIP

29-12-2003, 18:15	#4
beee Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2000 Città: Frittole Messaggi: 2596	L'ho appena provato, ma semplicemente non fa nulla.... Bye! __________________ Ryzen7 5800x ASUS Prime B550 Plus GTX 1660 Super Muletto: Athlon64 3000+ @2750mhz Ciuchino: intel 80286 @8mhz ram 384kb video ega msdos3.1 floppy 5-1/4 hd 10mb.

29-12-2003, 18:39	#6
beee Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2000 Città: Frittole Messaggi: 2596	KT400 (MSI KT4AV) Ho provato a variare il molti e la tensione, e in nessun caso ho visto qualche effetto. Mi sa che quel prg è 'leggermente' bacato. Bye! __________________ Ryzen7 5800x ASUS Prime B550 Plus GTX 1660 Super Muletto: Athlon64 3000+ @2750mhz Ciuchino: intel 80286 @8mhz ram 384kb video ega msdos3.1 floppy 5-1/4 hd 10mb.

29-12-2003, 22:54	#8
isomen Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2003 Città: Siena Messaggi: 17015	é quello che cercavo lo stò scaricando in questo momento lo provo e posto CIAUZ __________________ 1°Pc 1600X@4Ghz+Master liquid 240+B350-F+EVGA 750w+970 strix 4gb+M.2 Crucial 256Gb+hd 1 ST 4Tb+1 ST 4Tb+2x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws 3200@2933 2°Pc R7 2700X@default+NH-D14+Asus X370 pro+XFX 750ww+cross 2X480 8gb+hd M.2 pcie samsung 240gb+hd WD 2Tb+3Tb+2x8Gb G.Skill flarex 3200@3200 3°Pc Kabini 5150+AM1M-A+Seagate 320Gb+2x2Gb Kingston 1600mhz+skystar2 eXpress HD 4°Pc QC5000M-ITX/PH+RemixOS

29-12-2003, 23:53	#9
isomen Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2003 Città: Siena Messaggi: 17015	Provato e naturalmente nn fa.. peccato BUON ANNOa TUTTI e CIAUZ __________________ 1°Pc 1600X@4Ghz+Master liquid 240+B350-F+EVGA 750w+970 strix 4gb+M.2 Crucial 256Gb+hd 1 ST 4Tb+1 ST 4Tb+2x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws 3200@2933 2°Pc R7 2700X@default+NH-D14+Asus X370 pro+XFX 750ww+cross 2X480 8gb+hd M.2 pcie samsung 240gb+hd WD 2Tb+3Tb+2x8Gb G.Skill flarex 3200@3200 3°Pc Kabini 5150+AM1M-A+Seagate 320Gb+2x2Gb Kingston 1600mhz+skystar2 eXpress HD 4°Pc QC5000M-ITX/PH+RemixOS

29-12-2003, 18:13	#3
subvertigo Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 2002 Città: Milano Messaggi: 5062	Dai ragazzi !! Qualche beta-Tester

29-12-2003, 18:30	#5
subvertigo Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 2002 Città: Milano Messaggi: 5062	come non fa nulla? che chipset hai? hai provato a cambiare il moltiplicatore?

29-12-2003, 20:40	#7
kbl Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jan 2003 Messaggi: 1366	testato su sys 735. non funzia.

02-01-2004, 11:19	#10
silviobordieri Member Iscritto dal: Sep 2000 Messaggi: 127	il ho un gigabyte con kt600 con palomino xp1700+ e neanche a me funziona.

02-01-2004, 12:11	#11
checo Senior Member Iscritto dal: Aug 2000 Messaggi: 17963	provato su sis 745 non va __________________ .

02-01-2004, 13:23	#12
stock Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jul 2003 Città: Vicenza Messaggi: 7035	nforce2 ultra 400 non va un c@zz

02-01-2004, 16:59	#13
beee Senior Member Iscritto dal: Feb 2000 Città: Frittole Messaggi: 2596	Dopo una decina di 'test' con configurazioni molto diverse direi che proprio non funziona...... Bye! __________________ Ryzen7 5800x ASUS Prime B550 Plus GTX 1660 Super Muletto: Athlon64 3000+ @2750mhz Ciuchino: intel 80286 @8mhz ram 384kb video ega msdos3.1 floppy 5-1/4 hd 10mb.

02-01-2004, 18:11	#14
spaceboy Senior Member Iscritto dal: Mar 2001 Città: TV Messaggi: 4824	bisogna moddare l'L5 no?

02-01-2004, 18:44	#16
lowenz Bannato Iscritto dal: Aug 2001 Città: Berghem Haven Messaggi: 13513	Bisogna prima rendere MOBILE il processor, da quello che ho letto io, agendo sui ponticelli (L5 appunto, se mi ricordo bene).

02-01-2004, 21:56	#18
Dumah Brazorf Bannato Iscritto dal: Oct 2002 Messaggi: 29264	Esatto bisogna modificare gli L5 per renderlo Mobile. Non sono però tutte rose e fiori dopo... "However, changing desktop to mobile can cause some trouble. There may be some issues. First, BIOS may refuse to work with CPU it doesn't know (Mobile Athlon MP: that is if you do XP to MP and also desktop to mobile mods) or with CPU it doesn't support (Mobile Athlon XP: desktop to mobile). My motherboard, EPoX EP-8KRA2L with KT600 chipset, doesn't know Mobile Athlon MP and "sometimes" it knows Mobile Athlon XP. Why sometimes? Mobile Athlon XP processors have startup multiplier of 5x (FSB 100 MHz versions) or 6x (FSB 133 MHz versions) and my motherboard shows at POST CPU is Mobile Athlon only when I set multiplier to 5x or 6x. In other cases it just shows AMD K7 processor. The same applies to EPoX with KT333 chipset. Personally, I do not expect any motherboard to fully recognize Mobile Athlon MP, since this CPU does not exist. Some motherboards may recognize Mobile Athlon XP, but there may be some troubles. The problem is motherboard somehow sets MSR values during boot. At least on my motherboard it sets them different while it recognizes CPU is not an ordinary desktop part. Name String is programmed wrongly, Halt and Stop Grant divisors are set differently. The second problem is voltage. On this photo of Mobile Athlon XP I can recognize L11 being Startup Voltage and L8 being Maximum Voltage. On a notebook, system is powered using startup voltage and startup multiplier. Then the BIOS is required to make transition to maximum voltage and maximum multiplier. Since desktop motherboard usually do not have required circuits to change voltage on the fly (eg. pins connecting to L8 are not connected on motherboard), this won't cause problems. But if your motherboard has required circuits and BIOS is also capable of recognizing mobile CPU and does P-States transitions, there may be serious problem with over-voltage. The problem is on desktop CPU L8 bridges are all closed, therefore defining maximum voltage possible (taking desktop VID codes it is 1.85V, taking mobile VID codes it is 2.00V). If the BIOS changed voltage to that level, it would be possible to damage CPU. So once again - if your motherboard supports on-the-fly voltage adjustments, your BIOS recognize your CPU as mobile one and the BIOS also does transition to maximum voltage after POST, then do something with it - modify BIOS not to do P-State transitions, cut some of L8 bridges according to VID codes.

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