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Sinclair63 · 31-08-2005, 19:12

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SI parla ora di centinaia di morti e ieri qui sul forum dei fessi se la ridevano!

Non è che se la ridevano, da come stavano le cose sembrava che i danni fossero limitati e quindi si sdrammatizzava, ma oggi c'è ben poco da stare allegri, New Orleans praticamente non esiste più!

supermario · 31-08-2005, 19:24

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...FLORIDA...

PERRINE 16.33
HOMESTEAD 14.41
FLORIDA CITY 12.25
HOMESTEAD GENERAL AP 11.80
CUTLER RIDGE 11.13
KEY WEST 9.92
CUTLER RIDGE 3 NE 9.65

...LOUISIANA...

BIG BRANCH 14.82
BAPTIST/NATALBANY RVR 10.49
BUSH/BOGUE CHITTO RVR 10.05
PEARL RIVER 9.79
KENNER 9.72
CAMP COVINGTON/BOGUE FALAYA RVR 9.63
DEER RANGE 9.25
VENICE/CORP OF ENGINEERS 8.77
COVINGTON/BOGUE FALAYA RVR 7.23
NEW ORLEANS LAKEFRONT 7.20

impressionante......nn so le medie mensili ma qui mi sa che le abbiamo triplicate se nn quadruplicate

majin mixxi · 31-08-2005, 19:37

nessuno poteva immaginare una cosa del genere,il sindaco ha parlato di migliaia di morti

Sinclair63 · 31-08-2005, 19:38

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Originariamente inviato da majin mixxi

nessuno poteva immaginare una cosa del genere,il sindaco ha parlato di migliaia di morti

Ho sentito poco fa al tg5, migliaia di morti e può essere verosimile visto che appunto migliaia di persone non avevano lasciato la città!

supermario · 31-08-2005, 20:11

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Ho sentito poco fa al tg5, migliaia di morti e può essere verosimile visto che appunto migliaia di persone non avevano lasciato la città!

assolutamente spaventoso

supermario · 31-08-2005, 21:26

http://alt.ngs.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM

fate un giro qui.foto aeree delle zone

GioFX · 31-08-2005, 23:41

Il governo americano ha dovuto chiamare altri 10.000 riservisti solo della Guardia Nazionale, perchè la stragrande maggioranza degli operativi sono in Iraq.

E poi:

"Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001051313

GioFX · 31-08-2005, 23:45

Altro...

http://archives.thedaily.washington....IHquakebu.html

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When President George W. Bush sent his proposed 2002 budget to Congress yesterday afternoon, there was a glaring omission. The president decided to pull funding for FEMA's Project Impact, effectively ending the disaster-preparedness campaign which since 1997 has given $25 million per year to communities across the country for disaster mitigation, saying the project "has not proven effective."

muso · 01-09-2005, 02:41

Nei forum meteo americani gira questa notizia:

On CNN Estimates are that 80% of NOLA citizens evacuated. That leaves approximately 200,000 to 300,000 people who stayed. "Computer models" estimate a third of those drowned.

I really hope this is NOT accurate. Atragedy beyond imaginiation.

Cmq i piu prudenti parlano di 8000 morti

Sinclair63 · 01-09-2005, 07:58

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Cmq i piu prudenti parlano di 8000 morti

Alla faccia, e sono i più prudenti...oddio

GioFX · 01-09-2005, 09:14

New Orleans cops ordered to stop looters

By KEVIN McGILL
The Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Mayor Ray Nagin ordered 1,500 police officers to leave their search-and-rescue mission Wednesday night and return to the streets to stop looting that has turned increasingly hostile as the city plunges deeper into chaos.

"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas — hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said in a statement to The Associated Press.

The number of officers called off the search-and-rescue mission amounts to virtually the entire police force in New Orleans.

Amid the turmoil Wednesday, thieves commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break the glass of a pharmacy. The crowd stormed the store, carrying out so much ice, water and food that it dropped from their arms as they ran. The street was littered with packages of ramen noodles and other items.

Looters also chased down a police truck full of food. The New Orleans police chief ran off looters while city officials themselves were commandeering equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use.

Managers at a nursing home were prepared to cope with the power outages and had enough food for days, but then the looting began. The home's bus driver was forced to surrender the vehicle to carjackers.

Bands of people drove by the nursing home, shouting to residents, "Get out!" Eighty residents, most of them in wheelchairs, were being evacuated to other nursing homes in the state.

"We had enough food for 10 days," said Peggy Hoffman, the home's executive director. "Now we'll have to equip our department heads with guns and teach them how to shoot."

Tenet Healthcare Corp. said late Wednesday that it would also evacuate one of its hospitals in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water, medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was held up by gunmen.

"There are physical threats to safety from roving bands of armed individuals with weapons who are threatening the safety of the hospital," spokesman Steven Campanini said of the 203-bed Meadowcrest Hospital.

He said there were about 350 employees and between 125 to 150 patients inside the hospital, which is not flooded and is functioning.

At one store, hordes of people from all ages, races and walks of life grabbed food and water. Some drove away with trunkloads of beer. At one point, two officers drew their guns on the looters, but the thieves left without incident.

One young man was seen wading through chest-deep floodwater, carrying a case of soda, after looting a grocery store.

Police officers were asking residents to give up any firearms before they evacuated neighborhoods because police desperately needed the firepower: Some officers who had been stranded on the roof of a hotel said they were being shot at overnight.

"It's really difficult because my opinion of the looting is it started with people running out of food, and you can't really argue with that too much," Nagin said. "Then it escalated to this kind of mass chaos."

Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she has asked the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop looters.

Bob Mann, an aide to the governor, said dozens of law officers are being brought in from around the country and Canada to help stop the looting. Officials said they hope the 4,000 National Guard troops already in New Orleans, who have been engaged in search and rescue, will be available for police actions.

"We will restore law and order," an emotional Blanco said at a news conference. "What angers me the most is that disasters like this often bring out the worst in people. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior."

John Matessino, president of the Louisiana Hospital Association, said he had not heard of anyone breaking into the hospitals, but he added that thieves got into the parking garage at one hospital and were stealing car batteries and stereos.

New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street.

Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout. The officer and looter were expected to survive.

Palli · 01-09-2005, 10:29

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ecco l'occhio del ciclone

paura

Kal-El · 01-09-2005, 11:00

E' una cosa tristissima, ma vi siete accorti ultimamente stanno morendo persone come mosche in tutto il mondo? 11settembre, lo Tzunami, terremoti, Katrina, poi non dimentichiamoci del massacro ieri in iraq, chiaramente molti non collegati tra loro...... Che sta succedendo in nome di Dio?

supermario · 01-09-2005, 11:04

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Originariamente inviato da Kal-El

E' una cosa tristissima, ma vi siete accorti ultimamente stanno morendo persone come mosche in tutto il mondo? 11settembre, lo Tzunami, terremoti, Katrina, poi non dimentichiamoci del massacro ieri in iraq, chiaramente molti non collegati tra loro...... Che sta succedendo in nome di Dio?

per quanto possa essere tragico nn credo possa impensierire il rapporto nascite-morti mondiale

Kal-El · 01-09-2005, 11:20

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per quanto possa essere tragico nn credo possa impensierire il rapporto nascite-morti mondiale

Credo che non ho capito il senso, cosa intendi?

FastFreddy · 01-09-2005, 11:22

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Credo che non ho capito il senso, cosa intendi?

Intende che l'umanità non si estinguerà per questo...

Un tempo la terra era meno abitata di oggi, per cui è normale che una catastrofe naturale faccia più vittime adesso che un secolo fa...

Kal-El · 01-09-2005, 11:29

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Intende che l'umanità non si estinguerà per questo...

Un tempo la terra era meno abitata di oggi, per cui è normale che una catastrofe naturale faccia più vittime adesso che un secolo fa...

Beh no chiaro, infatti il mio post non era in chiave apocalittica, mi domandavo solamente "perchè" tutti questi gravi fatti localizzati in così breve tempo l'uno dall'altro.

E' solo un mio pensiero.

supermario · 01-09-2005, 11:33

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Intende che l'umanità non si estinguerà per questo...

Un tempo la terra era meno abitata di oggi, per cui è normale che una catastrofe naturale faccia più vittime adesso che un secolo fa...

giusto, tutto in proporzione purtroppo!

*sasha ITALIA* · 01-09-2005, 11:44

si parla di 3000 dispersi... beh penso che moltissimi non siano ancora recuperati o non siano stati conteggiati, non credo cvhe ci saranno 3000 morti (spero)

comunque penso che in gran parte possa derivare dall'eccessivo inquinamento e surriscaldamento del pianeta.. e Bush si ostina a non firmare il trattato di Kyoto..

FastFreddy · 01-09-2005, 11:46

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Originariamente inviato da *sasha ITALIA*

si parla di 3000 dispersi... beh penso che moltissimi non siano ancora recuperati o non siano stati conteggiati, non credo cvhe ci saranno 3000 morti (spero)

comunque penso che in gran parte possa derivare dall'eccessivo inquinamento e surriscaldamento del pianeta.. e Bush si ostina a non firmare il trattato di Kyoto..

Aridaje....

l'antropocentrismo dilaga

31-08-2005, 19:37	#283
majin mixxi Senior Member Iscritto dal: May 2001 Città: Milano Tokyo , purtroppo Utente con le palle fracassate Messaggi: 2371	nessuno poteva immaginare una cosa del genere,il sindaco ha parlato di migliaia di morti __________________ Kotoshi mo yoroshiku onegai-itashimasu

31-08-2005, 23:41	#287
GioFX Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2001 Città: Padova Messaggi: 1638	Il governo americano ha dovuto chiamare altri 10.000 riservisti solo della Guardia Nazionale, perchè la stragrande maggioranza degli operativi sono in Iraq. E poi: "Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside. Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed." http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001051313 __________________ Cosmos Pure \| Core i7 860 \| P7P55D-E Deluxe \| 16GB DDR3 Vengeance \| HD5850 \| 2x850PRO 256GB \| 2xRE3 250GB \| 2xSpinPoint F3 1TB Ultima modifica di GioFX : 31-08-2005 alle 23:44.

01-09-2005, 02:41	#289
muso Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jun 2001 Città: Le porte della percezione ora sono APERTE Messaggi: 746	Nei forum meteo americani gira questa notizia: On CNN Estimates are that 80% of NOLA citizens evacuated. That leaves approximately 200,000 to 300,000 people who stayed. "Computer models" estimate a third of those drowned. I really hope this is NOT accurate. Atragedy beyond imaginiation. Cmq i piu prudenti parlano di 8000 morti __________________ E' ricercando l'impossibile che l'uomo ha sempre realizzato il possibile. Coloro che si sono saggiamente limitati a ciò che appariva loro come possibile, non hanno mai avanzato di un solo passo. M.B

01-09-2005, 09:14	#291
GioFX Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2001 Città: Padova Messaggi: 1638	New Orleans cops ordered to stop looters By KEVIN McGILL The Associated Press NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Mayor Ray Nagin ordered 1,500 police officers to leave their search-and-rescue mission Wednesday night and return to the streets to stop looting that has turned increasingly hostile as the city plunges deeper into chaos. "They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas — hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said in a statement to The Associated Press. The number of officers called off the search-and-rescue mission amounts to virtually the entire police force in New Orleans. Amid the turmoil Wednesday, thieves commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break the glass of a pharmacy. The crowd stormed the store, carrying out so much ice, water and food that it dropped from their arms as they ran. The street was littered with packages of ramen noodles and other items. Looters also chased down a police truck full of food. The New Orleans police chief ran off looters while city officials themselves were commandeering equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use. Managers at a nursing home were prepared to cope with the power outages and had enough food for days, but then the looting began. The home's bus driver was forced to surrender the vehicle to carjackers. Bands of people drove by the nursing home, shouting to residents, "Get out!" Eighty residents, most of them in wheelchairs, were being evacuated to other nursing homes in the state. "We had enough food for 10 days," said Peggy Hoffman, the home's executive director. "Now we'll have to equip our department heads with guns and teach them how to shoot." Tenet Healthcare Corp. said late Wednesday that it would also evacuate one of its hospitals in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water, medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was held up by gunmen. "There are physical threats to safety from roving bands of armed individuals with weapons who are threatening the safety of the hospital," spokesman Steven Campanini said of the 203-bed Meadowcrest Hospital. He said there were about 350 employees and between 125 to 150 patients inside the hospital, which is not flooded and is functioning. At one store, hordes of people from all ages, races and walks of life grabbed food and water. Some drove away with trunkloads of beer. At one point, two officers drew their guns on the looters, but the thieves left without incident. One young man was seen wading through chest-deep floodwater, carrying a case of soda, after looting a grocery store. Police officers were asking residents to give up any firearms before they evacuated neighborhoods because police desperately needed the firepower: Some officers who had been stranded on the roof of a hotel said they were being shot at overnight. "It's really difficult because my opinion of the looting is it started with people running out of food, and you can't really argue with that too much," Nagin said. "Then it escalated to this kind of mass chaos." Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she has asked the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop looters. Bob Mann, an aide to the governor, said dozens of law officers are being brought in from around the country and Canada to help stop the looting. Officials said they hope the 4,000 National Guard troops already in New Orleans, who have been engaged in search and rescue, will be available for police actions. "We will restore law and order," an emotional Blanco said at a news conference. "What angers me the most is that disasters like this often bring out the worst in people. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior." John Matessino, president of the Louisiana Hospital Association, said he had not heard of anyone breaking into the hospitals, but he added that thieves got into the parking garage at one hospital and were stealing car batteries and stereos. New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street. Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout. The officer and looter were expected to survive. __________________ Cosmos Pure \| Core i7 860 \| P7P55D-E Deluxe \| 16GB DDR3 Vengeance \| HD5850 \| 2x850PRO 256GB \| 2xRE3 250GB \| 2xSpinPoint F3 1TB

01-09-2005, 11:00	#293
Kal-El Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jul 2004 Città: Smallville, Kansas (USA) Messaggi: 5812	E' una cosa tristissima, ma vi siete accorti ultimamente stanno morendo persone come mosche in tutto il mondo? 11settembre, lo Tzunami, terremoti, Katrina, poi non dimentichiamoci del massacro ieri in iraq, chiaramente molti non collegati tra loro...... Che sta succedendo in nome di Dio? Ultima modifica di Kal-El : 01-09-2005 alle 11:03.

31-08-2005, 21:26	#286
supermario Senior Member Iscritto dal: Oct 2001 Messaggi: 7906	http://alt.ngs.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM fate un giro qui.foto aeree delle zone

01-09-2005, 11:44	#299
sasha ITALIA Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jun 2004 Città: BOLZANO/BOZEN Messaggi: 14871	si parla di 3000 dispersi... beh penso che moltissimi non siano ancora recuperati o non siano stati conteggiati, non credo cvhe ci saranno 3000 morti (spero) comunque penso che in gran parte possa derivare dall'eccessivo inquinamento e surriscaldamento del pianeta.. e Bush si ostina a non firmare il trattato di Kyoto..

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