winamp 2.9-3.0, cosa cambia?

[Genjo Sanzo]

Per winamp 5 ....LINK

Google rulez !

[Fenomeno85]

Originariamente inviato da Genjo Sanzo
Per esempio il milgiore programma dibito a questi scopi esistente al mondo....Foobar...

Unica pecca: non legge i midi, ma io non li uso quindi frega u cazz....

posti l'indirizzo che lo voglio proprio provare

[GioFX]

Originariamente inviato da V|RuS[X]
Questa non la sapevo. Sul forum non riesco a trovare info, mi dai un link a quache thread in cui se ne parla?

The Winamp3 FAQ and Build/Release Information

Winamp5 and The Future

Has development stopped on Winamp3?

No, development is still progressing on Winamp3. Just at a slower rate while other programmers are being reassigned to Winamp 2.X and the Winamp 2.X and Winamp3 hybrid. Future Developer and Public builds are still expected for Winamp3.

What is Winamp5?

Winamp5 is the current working name for a Winamp 2.X and Winamp3 hybrid player. Information can be found in the thread entitled Winamp 2.9, Winamp3, and the future

This version will integrate Winamp 3 skin and script support into the Winamp 2.x platform. This will allow users who do not wish to have complex freeform skins to use classic Winamp skin(s), with the full performance of Winamp 2.x. Those who wish to use more advanced Winamp3 skins can do so as well. The integration will be seamless.
Initially this version of Winamp will not support Wasabi components. That may or may not change as we go forward, we have yet to see how worthwhile that will be. We have and will be extending Winamp 2.x's plug-in architecture greatly to allow much of the same functionality that can be accomplished with Wasabi).
We also plan on adding CD ripping and burning capability for this release.
We are aiming to release this version sometime (read: towards the end of) this summer (2003).

Winamp 2.9, Winamp3, and the future

[GioFX]

Su Winamp3...

Winamp3 Core

To the end user, what's different?
- New interface
- Media Library
- Video playback
- Fully customizable
- Free-form skins
- Cross-fading
- Alpha Transparency (Windows 2000/XP)
- etc....

Why is Winamp3 so different than Winamp 2.X?
Winamp3 is a complete re-write from Winamp 2. The platform that Winamp 2 was built on is old and out of date and no longer meets the needs of its developers. So they created an entirely new system (see Wasabi below). Now, while to the average user, Winamp3 may look just like a few GUI updates, there is a lot more than that! Winamp3's component system (known as plug-ins in Winamp 2) has been completely re-worked. This makes everything in Winamp3 components running on top of Wasabi. This way Winamp3 can be stripped of unwanted features or developers can make components to add completely new or different functionality to Winamp3.

Where is all this new functionality?
Nullsoft does not have the time nor resources to fully show all the possibilities on the original release of Winamp3. Though as third party development picks up, look to see features like media organization systems, CD ripping systems, CD burning systems, encode in different formats, and so on. These can be made available to users by simple component downloads.

Why is Winamp3 slower then Winamp2?
Winamp3 is A LOT more powerful then Winamp 2, so yes it will take more system resources. Also, yes Winamp3 may not work on some of the older systems that Winamp 2 works on, but nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Winamp3. Winamp 2 will still be available. Remember when Winamp 2.0 first came out it took a lot more resources on the systems of the day. Unfortunately you cannot make a Next Generation software product without raising system requirements.

How come Winamp3 is missing features from Winamp 2.X?
Well, as said before, Winamp3 is a complete re-write from Winamp 2.X. Therefore not all features from Winamp 2.X can make the first release. Due to limited resources and time Nullsoft included the critical features to make Winamp3 what it is. Expect more and more feature additions in each release of Winamp3. If your favorite feature from Winamp 2.X is missing, please be patient, it is most likely in the pipeline.

Does Winamp3 v1.x overwrite/replace classic Winamp v2.x?
No. One is not an upgrade to the other. Winamp v2.x is still under development. Updates can be found here. Winamp v2.91 has just been released (note, Winamp 2.81 was released after Winamp3 v1.0). Prior to v2.91, if all you wanted was an MP3 Player, then Winamp 2.x was the way to go. However, with the advent of Winamp 2.91, it now also offers full Video support (as does Winamp3), as well as an intuitive Media Library. Both Winamp3 v1.x and Winamp v2.x can happily coexist on the same system together.

Will my old plug-ins still work?
Nope. Unfortunately, to totally change the component interface, backwards compatibility had to be scrapped. But fear not, developers are already making plug-ins to run Winamp 2.X plug-ins. For Input download WA2Input. General and DSP plug-ins can be run with Winamp 2x Plugin Manager. The Winamp 2.X API can be emulated with Winamp 2x Plugin Manager. Visualizations can be run with the Classic Visualization Component.

Will my Winamp 2.XX skins still work?
Winamp3 has limited Winamp 2.xx skin support. Some Winamp 2.xx skins will work in Winamp3 but will only skin the main component window and the Equalizer. Some older Winamp 2.xx skins may not work at all.


Winamp3 Media Player

Will it take more system resources?
Winamp3 is A LOT more powerful then Winamp2, so yes it will take more system resources. Also, yes Winamp3 may not work on some of the older systems that Winamp2 works on, but nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Winamp3. Winamp2 will still be available. Remember when Winamp 2.0 first came out it took a lot more resources on the systems of the day. Unfortunately, you cannot make a Next Generation software product without raising system requirements.

What's that name again?
Winamp. Not WinAmp, nor WinAMP. It's not just for Windows any more and it hasn't used AMP in years. Though for Winamp 3 you do usually see it written as Winamp3. If you add any more capital letters in there don't be surprised when the Hired Goons show up at your door.

Will Winamp3 be open source?
Nope. But the SDK does feature a lot of Winamp3 source code to play with.

Does Winamp3 contain Spyware?
Nope. None, whatsoever. Regardless what SpybotSD says. If Spybot S&D reports Winamp3 desktop icon as "InterSysInc Dialer" be aware this is a false positive which the SpybotSD developers are aware of.

When will the next version be out?
We don't know. I doubt the developers have a set date. So now it is "When it is done." No, we don't know what "done" is either.



Wasabi

So what is Wasabi?
It is the platform that Nullsoft created to build Winamp3 on. Everything in Wasabi is a component, even Winamp3 its self. This is a huge improvement from Winamp 2.Xs old plug-in system. Also, since Components should make all (or at least most) calls to Wasabi and not the system (Wasabi makes windows and graphics, not the OS) this makes them almost cross-platform. Well written components will only need a recompile to run on a different OS. Wasabi is all that needs to be ported. (Yes, this means that Winamp3 is coming to other operating systems). Wasabi is not just for Audio players either. In theory you could make any type of application on the Wasabi platform. While this is kind of meaningless for the average end user, it makes life a lot nicer for developers. In turn that will pay off with more and better components for Winamp3 on different platforms.

Why did Nullsoft decide to use XML?
Because they needed to have some system to hold data in a logical way and XML fitted the bill. SOAP, .NET, MONO, all the majors seem to have systems planned that utilize XML, it makes sense that Winamp is going in that direction. In English terms XML is a way of holding data in a generic format that is highly extensible. That is, the basic structure of XML is easy to see and understand (esp. if you already know HTML), but you can describe complex things with it. If you open up some XML from a WA3 skin in a text editor, its human readable, but has a ton of information.

Will Wasabi be open source?
Nope. But the SDK does feature a lot of Winamp3 source code to play with.

[Fenomeno85]

Originariamente inviato da GioFX
Su Winamp3...

grande

[Chester]

Originariamente inviato da Genjo Sanzo
Per esempio il milgiore programma dibito a questi scopi esistente al mondo....Foobar...

Unica pecca: non legge i midi, ma io non li uso quindi frega u cazz....

Ok, piu' tardi lo cerco e provo.

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[Genjo Sanzo]

Originariamente inviato da Chester
Ok, piu' tardi lo cerco e provo.

[OT]
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Ecco perchè !!!!! :eheh:

Per quanto riguarda il trovarlo....ragazzi sapete che hanno inventato Google ?

[StErMiNeiToR]

Originariamente inviato da Genjo Sanzo
Per winamp 5 ....LINK

Google rulez !

grazie.... vediamo di migliorare sta beta

[Chester]

Originariamente inviato da StErMiNeiToR
grazie.... vediamo di migliorare sta beta

Winamp 3 l' hai provato? Che ti sembra?

Cmq per Foobar il sito e' www.foobar2000.org

[Fenomeno85]

Originariamente inviato da Chester
Winamp 3 l' hai provato? Che ti sembra?

Cmq per Foobar il sito e' www.foobar2000.org

grazie adesso la provo ... sto scaricando la special

[Chester]

Originariamente inviato da Fenomeno85
grazie adesso la provo ... sto scaricando la special

Io ho scaricato la normal... devo dire che e' molto essenziale, si carica in un attimo e fa proprio solo quello che deve fare.

Io pero' avrei bisogno di un programmino che possa ridurre a "tray icon", e che solo da quell' icona possa andare avanti con le canzoni, cambiare il volume, ecc...
Magari che apra una minuscola finestra sopra l' icona stessa per queste cose. Esiste? Ovviamente freeware...

[StErMiNeiToR]

e si sarebbe proprio na bella cosa... almeno cosi nn nn ti da noia li nella barra in basso .... esiste?

[marchez]

la differenza tra la versione 2.x e la versione 3 e' sostanziale:

la 2.x e' esclusivamente dedicata all'ascolto audio mp3, lo fa' in modo eccellente, e' leggerissimo e si puo' personalizzare plugin e skin, al sito http://www.winamp.com

con la 3 invece si sono messi in testa di fare un soft tipo Windows media player, tutto in uno, dove puoi ascoltare e vedere qualunque tipo di file, il risultato e' un software molto piu' peso, un pochino instabile, molto piu' bello e personalizzabile di wmp,
che non accetta i "vecchi" plugin e skins scritti per la 2.x,
particolare molto importante perche' si trattava ormai di uno standard, i plugin per personalizzare l'ascolto sono centinaia, e gli skins sono ormai migliaia, anchio ne' ho creati alcuni,

a parere mio per vedere i files video ci sono software molto migliori tipo Bs-Player per i divx,
l'unico vero motivo per tenere la 3 e' l'esigenza di avere tutto in uno,

ancora piu' leggero di winamp per ascoltare mp3 c'era:
FreeAmp
che era ottimo, forse lo si trova ancora in giro.

[marchez]

correggo il link postato sopra per il sito di winamp 2.x
http://classic.winamp.com/

[Chester]

Originariamente inviato da StErMiNeiToR
e si sarebbe proprio na bella cosa... almeno cosi nn nn ti da noia li nella barra in basso .... esiste?

Esatto... sarebbe troppo comodo!
Ho trovato BS Player, voglio provarlo (ah, la curiosita'...).
FreeAmp invece non riesco a trovarlo, ma non ho ancora provato con il gugolone.

[marchez]

Originariamente inviato da Chester
FreeAmp invece non riesco a trovarlo, ma non ho ancora provato con il gugolone.

ho frugato tra' i miei vecchi cd ma nn sono riuscito a trovarlo,
e' un soft dei tempi di win98, e nn so se funzica anche con xp,
se lo trovi ti spiace postarmi l'indirizzo?

[Chester]

Originariamente inviato da marchez
ho frugato tra' i miei vecchi cd ma nn sono riuscito a trovarlo,
e' un soft dei tempi di win98, e nn so se funzica anche con xp,
se lo trovi ti spiace postarmi l'indirizzo?

Detto fatto: http://www.excite.it/download/files/FreeAmp/753

Ho trovato un programma... si chiama MiniMp3... parte solo in tray icon e occupa 46Kb!!!
Quando si dice un programma essenziale...