[Thread Tecnico] Crysis Warhead - Pagina 2

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 16:57

già... infatti è meglio volare bassi finchè non ce lo ritroviamo installato... fu un po' come quando tutti aspettavamo la prima patch che doveva portare chissà quali migliorie e poi...

07-09-2008, 18:12

I know that more than half of this hasn't been posted here yet; so here you go. This is all very nice to know.

It's also nice to know that the PC Gamer magazine crew also played Warhead on the confirmed PC with an 8600GT.

Crysis Warhead info from PC Gamer - including the "$653 Warhead Machine" #1
I just got my issue of PC Gamer in the mail with Crysis Warhead on the cover. Here are some of the key points they talk about :

Crytek is mainly focusing on dealing with a perception problem:
-Performance, what it *actually* takes to run the game
-Sales, specifically saying it's sold about 1.5 million copies
-The perception that multi-platform development will dumb down PC versions

Crysis Warhead is a PC exclusive

Warhead is a full sized game, following Psycho during the events of Crysis. Not just a standalone expansion

Psycho's known appearance allows for 3rd-person cutscenes. Don't scoff - they could be used to teach you nanosuit techniques. I'll believe it when I see it though...

Prophet's story isn't touched in this game, but his story could be in yet another "sidequel". Ugh, what about addressing the cliffhanger ending?

Game starts when Psycho leaves Nomad (main character from first game) about half-way through the first game. Ends sometime before he shows back up on the aircraft carrier

Single player campaign of about 8-10 hours, beefed up multiplayer game (I'll go over it later)

Crytek's aim with Warhead is specifically to satisfy critics of the first game

Yerli admits that designing the game with future scalability was a "mistake", and that they should have released those higher settings later with a patch

"If you were able to run Crysis, you'll be able to run Warhead better" -Cevat Yerli

In addition to better performance, Warhead includes a new "global ambient lighting" system, lighting and shadowing improvements, and new particle effects - [/u]none of which impact framerates on current-gen machines[/u]

You don't need Vista and DX10 this time around for the highest-end effects - you can max out the graphics with DX9 on XP

AI improvements - aliens have more human-like organizations, enemies have better group tactics, korean combat chatter improves

Unlike Crysis' linear focus towards the end, Warhead maintains scripted and sandbox aspects, better integrated throughout the game. Vehicles remain important throughout it

You'll never be forced into a vehicle - they always remain options in Warhead

Yerli admits that announcing Crysis too early may have hurt the game - Warhead will ship this year, and from now on, he hopes to announce games merely 3 months before their release

Psycho's suit abilities will be the same as Nomad's, but Crytek says there might be a surprise later in the game.

Multiplayer

Warhead includes everything that Crysis has, including stuff added to the game post-release

Includes a third mode to the first Instant Action and Power Struggle modes

New mode isn't named yet, will be less complex than Power Struggle, but be more involved than instant Action

New maps feature more vertical environments, wide gaps to encourage strength jumps and such

All vehicles - including the new amphibious APC - will be available in multiplayer

Interview clips

Doesn't agree with Brad Wardell on piracy, says the problem is people choosing between spending money on hardware or spending money on software. Basically hopes that now that people have the hardware, they'll spend their money on Crysis

Says that yes, Crysis sold well, Crytek/EA made a profit despite the big budget of the game, but sales could have been better. Yes, 15-20 pirated copies for 1 sold copy doesn't mean they could have sold 15-20 times as much, but he thinks selling double the amount isn't an unreasonable estimate

Crysis 2's development depends heavily on Warhead's success

Cross-platform development would involve two teams, avoiding the "distilled, easier to access experience" that console games need on the PC version

Crytek's previous GDC announcement involving PS3 development is not Crysis-related

Pushing PC hardware? "I think we wouldn't be Crytek if each platform didn't have its technology pushed."

The PC Gamer $653 Warhead Machine

Crytek built its own machine capable of running the game "silky smooth", with "all the bells and whistles turned on". Considering that it has an 8600GT, I'll take it with a grain of salt, but Dan Stapleton confirmed in a PC Gamer Podcast thread that they absolutely did play the game on this machine, and it was running on High details.

Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99
Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99
Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99
A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99
MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99
Vista Home Premium - $109.99

Don't forget that you can easily find a case/power supply solution for cheaper than that! It would compensate for the mouse, keyboard, speakers, and monitor you might need

cioè... dice che è stato provato da quelli di pc gamer e che a dettagli alti andava bene con una 8600GT 512...

si saran mica sbagliati con una 9600GT 512??

http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=22464

07-09-2008, 18:20

cmq mi sa che è old sta storia qui... mi sembra che se ne era già parlato...

cmq se fosse vero i dettagli alti di warhead = dettagli medi di Crysis

raekwon · 07-09-2008, 18:29

mi sembra improbabilissimo che possa girare a dettagli alti con una 8600GT, se fosse vero sarebbe una cosa fantastica ma mi sembra impossibile...
non rimane che aspettare...

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 18:40

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Originariamente inviato da Mister Tarpone

cmq mi sa che è old sta storia qui... mi sembra che se ne era già parlato...

cmq se fosse vero i dettagli alti di warhead = dettagli medi di Crysis

sì... da quanto ricordo avevamo già affrontato la news... anche perchè all'inizio parla ancora di una possibile versione di warhead multipiatta, cosa poi smentita durante le ultime settimane...
Ad ogni modo una 8600gt non ce la farebbe a gestire quel popò di roba a dettagli alti (tu tarpo che l'hai provata personalmente ne potresti dare la conferma...)

comunque a quando risale la notizia?

Io penso che il settaggio high di crysis diverrà il very high di warhead... e così via a scalare...

07-09-2008, 18:41

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Originariamente inviato da sertopica

comunque a quando risale la notizia?

ho visto adesso che il post dove ho preso sta notizia è del 24-06-2008

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 18:45

non troppo vecchia ma non abbastanza nuova

...
aspettiamo che esca e vediamo che hanno combinato co sto engine...
comunque ho editato e ho messo in link in prima pagina, ad uso e consumo di tutti

okorop · 07-09-2008, 19:59

iscritto

*+*kekko*+* · 07-09-2008, 20:07

C'è bisogno di Crysis per giocarci?

[Alex] · 07-09-2008, 20:12

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Originariamente inviato da *+*kekko*+*

C'è bisogno di Crysis per giocarci?

no

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 20:21

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Originariamente inviato da *+*kekko*+*

C'è bisogno di Crysis per giocarci?

Prima pagina

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Rodig · 07-09-2008, 20:21

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Originariamente inviato da raekwon

mi sembra improbabilissimo che possa girare a dettagli alti con una 8600GT, se fosse vero sarebbe una cosa fantastica ma mi sembra impossibile...
non rimane che aspettare...

Con una 8600GT non vanno a dettagli alti nemmeno giochi moooolto meno esigenti di Crysis (ce l'ho avuta)......

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 20:27

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Originariamente inviato da Rodig

Con una 8600GT non vanno a dettagli alti nemmeno giochi moooolto meno esigenti di Crysis (ce l'ho avuta)......

sicuramente non è adatta al gaming "spinto" però qualcosina riesce a smuovere...

okorop · 07-09-2008, 20:28

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Originariamente inviato da sertopica

sicuramente non è adatta al gaming "spinto" però qualcosina riesce a smuovere...

non è adatta al gaming e basta

Rodig · 07-09-2008, 20:29

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Originariamente inviato da sertopica

sicuramente non è adatta al gaming "spinto" però qualcosina riesce a smuovere...

Questo sicuramente (Crysis l'ho giocato con quella, ma a 1024X768 e dettagli medi)......

bCyclon · 07-09-2008, 20:30

se davvero quello che hanno scritto fosse vero sarebbe perfetto, riuscirei a godermelo x bene sempre con l'aa e tt al max...sperom

07-09-2008, 20:32

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Originariamente inviato da sertopica

sicuramente non è adatta al gaming "spinto" però qualcosina riesce a smuovere...

con il modello GTS a 1280x1024 giocavo bioshock, Call of duty, Gears of war e UT3 a dettaglio massimo. senza filtri aa però..

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 20:33

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Originariamente inviato da okorop

non è adatta al gaming e basta

Quanta cattiveria...

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Originariamente inviato da Rodig

Questo sicuramente (Crysis l'ho giocato con quella, ma a 1024X768 e dettagli medi)......

penso sia il massimo che possa concedere

sertopica · 07-09-2008, 20:35

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Originariamente inviato da Mister Tarpone

con il modello GTS a 1280x1024 giocavo bioshock, Call of duty, Gears of war e UT3 a dettaglio massimo. senza filtri aa però..

beh niente male alla fine... senza pretendere troppo (cioè mettendo i filtri) la si può utilizzare tranquillamente... ma se si tratta di crysis...

07-09-2008, 20:38

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Originariamente inviato da sertopica

beh niente male alla fine... senza pretendere troppo (cioè mettendo i filtri) la si può utilizzare tranquillamente... ma se si tratta di crysis...

ehh... ma Crysis va male anche con schede il doppio + potenti di questa..

07-09-2008, 16:57	#21
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07-09-2008, 19:59	#28
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07-09-2008, 18:12	#22
Mister Tarpone Messaggi: n/a	I know that more than half of this hasn't been posted here yet; so here you go. This is all very nice to know. It's also nice to know that the PC Gamer magazine crew also played Warhead on the confirmed PC with an 8600GT. Crysis Warhead info from PC Gamer - including the "$653 Warhead Machine" #1 I just got my issue of PC Gamer in the mail with Crysis Warhead on the cover. Here are some of the key points they talk about : Crytek is mainly focusing on dealing with a perception problem: -Performance, what it actually takes to run the game -Sales, specifically saying it's sold about 1.5 million copies -The perception that multi-platform development will dumb down PC versions Crysis Warhead is a PC exclusive Warhead is a full sized game, following Psycho during the events of Crysis. Not just a standalone expansion Psycho's known appearance allows for 3rd-person cutscenes. Don't scoff - they could be used to teach you nanosuit techniques. I'll believe it when I see it though... Prophet's story isn't touched in this game, but his story could be in yet another "sidequel". Ugh, what about addressing the cliffhanger ending? Game starts when Psycho leaves Nomad (main character from first game) about half-way through the first game. Ends sometime before he shows back up on the aircraft carrier Single player campaign of about 8-10 hours, beefed up multiplayer game (I'll go over it later) Crytek's aim with Warhead is specifically to satisfy critics of the first game Yerli admits that designing the game with future scalability was a "mistake", and that they should have released those higher settings later with a patch "If you were able to run Crysis, you'll be able to run Warhead better" -Cevat Yerli In addition to better performance, Warhead includes a new "global ambient lighting" system, lighting and shadowing improvements, and new particle effects - [/u]none of which impact framerates on current-gen machines[/u] You don't need Vista and DX10 this time around for the highest-end effects - you can max out the graphics with DX9 on XP AI improvements - aliens have more human-like organizations, enemies have better group tactics, korean combat chatter improves Unlike Crysis' linear focus towards the end, Warhead maintains scripted and sandbox aspects, better integrated throughout the game. Vehicles remain important throughout it You'll never be forced into a vehicle - they always remain options in Warhead Yerli admits that announcing Crysis too early may have hurt the game - Warhead will ship this year, and from now on, he hopes to announce games merely 3 months before their release Psycho's suit abilities will be the same as Nomad's, but Crytek says there might be a surprise later in the game. Multiplayer Warhead includes everything that Crysis has, including stuff added to the game post-release Includes a third mode to the first Instant Action and Power Struggle modes New mode isn't named yet, will be less complex than Power Struggle, but be more involved than instant Action New maps feature more vertical environments, wide gaps to encourage strength jumps and such All vehicles - including the new amphibious APC - will be available in multiplayer Interview clips Doesn't agree with Brad Wardell on piracy, says the problem is people choosing between spending money on hardware or spending money on software. Basically hopes that now that people have the hardware, they'll spend their money on Crysis Says that yes, Crysis sold well, Crytek/EA made a profit despite the big budget of the game, but sales could have been better. Yes, 15-20 pirated copies for 1 sold copy doesn't mean they could have sold 15-20 times as much, but he thinks selling double the amount isn't an unreasonable estimate Crysis 2's development depends heavily on Warhead's success Cross-platform development would involve two teams, avoiding the "distilled, easier to access experience" that console games need on the PC version Crytek's previous GDC announcement involving PS3 development is not Crysis-related Pushing PC hardware? "I think we wouldn't be Crytek if each platform didn't have its technology pushed." The PC Gamer $653 Warhead Machine Crytek built its own machine capable of running the game "silky smooth", with "all the bells and whistles turned on". Considering that it has an 8600GT, I'll take it with a grain of salt, but Dan Stapleton confirmed in a PC Gamer Podcast thread that they absolutely did play the game on this machine, and it was running on High details. Shuttle SG31G2S Barebone Case - $239.99 Intel Pentium E2180 2.0GHz Dual-Core CPU - $82.99 Samsung SH-S203B DVD Burner - $29.99 Hitachi Deskstar 7K160 160GB hard drive - $48.99 A-Data 2GB DDR2 SDRAM - $45.99 MSI GeForce 8600GT 512MB video card - $94.99 Vista Home Premium - $109.99 Don't forget that you can easily find a case/power supply solution for cheaper than that! It would compensate for the mouse, keyboard, speakers, and monitor you might need cioè... dice che è stato provato da quelli di pc gamer e che a dettagli alti andava bene con una 8600GT 512... si saran mica sbagliati con una 9600GT 512?? http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=22464

07-09-2008, 18:20	#23
Mister Tarpone Messaggi: n/a	cmq mi sa che è old sta storia qui... mi sembra che se ne era già parlato... cmq se fosse vero i dettagli alti di warhead = dettagli medi di Crysis

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