cambio processore su portatile

Giovanni420 · 11-01-2010, 23:16

ciao, ho un compaq presario "cq60 117el" vorrei cambiare il lentissimo AMD Sempron a 2Ghz, è possibile fare una cosa del genere su un portatile? qual'è il processore più performante installabile sulla mia scheda madre?? grazie

Panther89 · 12-01-2010, 04:34

nei notebook più recenti le possibilità di upgrade si limitano alla Ram e all'Hard disk.
i componenti principali, come processore e scheda grafica, vengono saldati alla motherboard.

nicolait · 12-01-2010, 08:37

Mah, io veramente ne ho upgradate diverse di cpu, anche su portatili recenti.
Francamente l'unico che ho saldato alla mb è l'atom del mio netbook.

In ogni modo per rispondere alla domanda, per capire la cpu più potente installabile io ho sempre guardato il chipset del pc, e da questo si risale alla cpu.

JamesDean · 12-01-2010, 12:07

Questa dovrebbe essere la cpu piu potente che tu possa installare

la trovi su ebay a 125 spedito

cmq queste dovrebbero essere le cpu compatibili con il tuo laptop QL-60,QL-62,QL-64,RM-70,RM-72,ZM-80,ZM-82,ZM-84,ZM-85,ZM-86,ZM-87

i prezzi partono dai 40 euro fino ai 125

io ti consiglio la serie ZM

cmq per sicurezza posta uno screen di CPUZ

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 13:21

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da JamesDean

Questa dovrebbe essere la cpu piu potente che tu possa installare

la trovi su ebay a 125 spedito

cmq queste dovrebbero essere le cpu compatibili con il tuo laptop QL-60,QL-62,QL-64,RM-70,RM-72,ZM-80,ZM-82,ZM-84,ZM-85,ZM-86,ZM-87

i prezzi partono dai 40 euro fino ai 125

io ti consiglio la serie ZM

cmq per sicurezza posta uno screen di CPUZ

uso linux quindi non posso usare CPU-Z, un programma alternativo?

Grazie della bella notizia, così ne approfitterò per fare un bel upgrade al mio portatilino

magari anche uno slot di ram più grande dato che ora sono 1X1GB + 1x2GB.

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 13:26

trovato!! ecco una schermata della configurazione del mio portatile.

Codice PHP:


			
compaq                      

    description: Notebook   

    product: Compaq Presario CQ60 Notebook PC

    vendor: Hewlett-Packard                  

    version: F.25                            

    serial: 2CE842LDN7                       

    width: 32 bits                           

    capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp

    configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=notebook cpus=1 uuid=E92B99C0-A0ED-11DD-9A6C-8E6F8672855C                                                          

  *-core                                                                        

       description: Motherboard                                                 

       product: 303C                                                            

       vendor: Wistron                                                          

       physical id: 0                                                           

       version: 08.45                                                           

     *-firmware                                                                 

          description: BIOS                                                     

          vendor: Hewlett-Packard                                               

          physical id: 0                                                        

          version: F.25 (10/03/2008)                                            

          size: 102KiB                                                          

          capacity: 960KiB                                                      

          capabilities: isa pci pcmcia pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot acpi usb agp biosbootspecification                                                 

     *-cpu                                                                      

          description: CPU                                                      

          product: AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40                                        

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]                                  

          physical id: 3                                                        

          bus info: cpu@0                                                       

          version: 15.3.1                                                       

          slot: Socket A                                                        

          size: 1GHz                                                            

          capacity: 2GHz                                                        

          width: 64 bits                                                        

          clock: 133MHz                                                         

          capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc up nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit cpufreq           

        *-cache:0                                                               

             description: L1 cache                                              

             physical id: 5                                                     

             slot: L1 Cache                                                     

             size: 128KiB                                                       

             capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back                     

        *-cache:1                                                               

             description: L2 cache                                              

             physical id: 6                                                     

             slot: L2 Cache                                                     

             size: 512KiB                                                       

             capacity: 2MiB                                                     

             capabilities: synchronous internal write-through unified           

     *-memory:0                                                                 

          description: System Memory                                            

          physical id: 4                                                        

          slot: System board or motherboard                                     

          size: 3GiB                                                            

        *-bank:0                                                                

             description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)                

             physical id: 0                                                     

             slot: S1                                                           

             size: 2GiB                                                         

             width: 32 bits                                                     

             clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)                                              

        *-bank:1                                                                

             description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)                

             physical id: 1                                                     

             slot: S2                                                           

             size: 1GiB                                                         

             width: 32 bits                                                     

             clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)                                              

     *-memory:1 UNCLAIMED                                                       

          description: RAM memory                                               

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller                      

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 5                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0                                            

          version: a2                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)                                                 

          capabilities: ht bus_master cap_list                                  

          configuration: latency=0                                              

     *-isa                                                                      

          description: ISA bridge                                               

          product: nVidia Corporation                                           

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 1                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0                                            

          version: a2                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: isa bus_master                                          

          configuration: latency=0                                              

          resources: ioport:1a00(size=256)                                      

     *-serial                                                                   

          description: SMBus                                                    

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus                                  

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 1.1                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pm cap_list                                             

          configuration: driver=nForce2_smbus latency=0                         

          resources: irq:10 ioport:3080(size=64) ioport:3040(size=64) ioport:3000(size=64)                                                                      

     *-processor UNCLAIMED                                                      

          description: Co-processor                                             

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-Processor                           

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 1.3                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.3                                            

          version: a2                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: bus_master                                              

          configuration: latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3                        

          resources: memory:c0080000-c00fffff                                   

     *-memory:2 UNCLAIMED                                                       

          description: RAM memory                                               

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller                      

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 1.4                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.4                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)                                                 

          configuration: latency=0                                              

     *-usb:0                                                                    

          description: USB Controller                                           

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller                

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 2                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list                                  

          configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3        

          resources: irq:17 memory:c0006000-c0006fff                            

     *-usb:1                                                                    

          description: USB Controller                                           

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller                

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 2.1                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: debug pm bus_master cap_list                            

          configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3        

          resources: irq:17 memory:c0007000-c00070ff                            

     *-usb:2                                                                    

          description: USB Controller                                           

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller                

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: b                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list                                  

          configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3        

          resources: irq:16 memory:c0008000-c0008fff                            

     *-usb:3                                                                    

          description: USB Controller                                           

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller                

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 4.1                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:04.1                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: debug pm bus_master cap_list                            

          configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3        

          resources: irq:16 memory:c0007400-c00074ff                            

     *-ide:0                                                                    

          description: IDE interface                                            

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE                                    

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 6                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list                              

          configuration: driver=pata_amd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3        

          resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:30c0(size=16)                                                     

     *-multimedia                                                               

          description: Audio device                                             

          product: MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio           

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 7                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list                           

          configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0 maxlatency=5 mingnt=2       

          resources: irq:20 memory:c0000000-c0003fff                            

     *-pci:0                                                                    

          description: PCI bridge                                               

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge                             

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 8                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pci ht bus_master cap_list                              

     *-ide:1                                                                    

          description: IDE interface                                            

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SATA Controller (non-AHCI mode)        

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 9                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0                                            

          logical name: scsi0                                                   

          logical name: scsi1                                                   

          version: a2                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: ide pm msi ht bus_master cap_list emulated              

          configuration: driver=ahci latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3            

          resources: irq:25 ioport:30f0(size=8) ioport:30e4(size=4) ioport:30e8(size=8) ioport:30e0(size=4) ioport:30d0(size=16) memory:c0004000-c0005fff       

        *-cdrom                                                                 

             description: DVD-RAM writer                                        

             product: DVDRAM GSA-T50L                                           

             vendor: HL-DT-ST                                                   

             physical id: 0                                                     

             bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0                                             

             logical name: /dev/cdrom                                           

             logical name: /dev/cdrw                                            

             logical name: /dev/dvd                                             

             logical name: /dev/dvdrw                                           

             logical name: /dev/scd0                                            

             logical name: /dev/sr0                                             

             version: SC04                                                      

             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram         

             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc                         

        *-disk                                                                  

             description: ATA Disk                                              

             product: WDC WD2500BEVT-6                                          

             vendor: Western Digital                                            

             physical id: 1                                                     

             bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0                                             

             logical name: /dev/sda                                             

             version: 13.0                                                      

             serial: WD-WXE908KT9213                                            

             size: 232GiB (250GB)                                               

             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos                          

             configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=93119311                    

           *-volume:0                                                           

                description: EXT4 volume                                        

                vendor: Linux                                                   

                physical id: 1                                                  

                bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,1                                        

                logical name: /dev/sda1                                         

                logical name: /                                                 

                version: 1.0                                                    

                serial: 72d18df7-2db7-43ce-9156-85dfa54796e4                    

                size: 224GiB                                                    

                capacity: 224GiB                                                

                capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized             

                configuration: created=2010-01-05 20:00:13 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/&#65533;ADf��X�6�����x����H}�H}�f����������u��f��p.&��d modified=2010-01-11 22:04:16 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-01-12 12:49:38 state=mounted                         

           *-volume:1                                                           

                description: Extended partition                                 

                physical id: 2                                                  

                bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,2                                        

                logical name: /dev/sda2                                         

                size: 8118MiB                                                   

                capacity: 8118MiB                                               

                capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended 

              *-logicalvolume                                                   

                   description: Linux swap / Solaris partition                  

                   physical id: 5                                               

                   logical name: /dev/sda5                                      

                   capacity: 8118MiB                                            

                   capabilities: nofs                                           

     *-network                                                                  

          description: Ethernet interface                                       

          product: MCP77 Ethernet                                               

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: a                                                        

          bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0                                            

          logical name: eth0                                                    

          version: a2                                                           

          serial: 00:1f:16:4a:21:50                                             

          size: 100MB/s                                                         

          capacity: 100MB/s                                                     

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 66MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation                                         

          configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.64 duplex=full ip=29.233.104.42 latency=0 link=yes maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s                                       

          resources: irq:26 memory:c0009000-c0009fff ioport:30f8(size=8) memory:c0007c00-c0007cff memory:c0007800-c000780f                                      

     *-pci:1                                                                    

          description: PCI bridge                                               

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge                     

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 100                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:0b.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 33MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pci pm ht bus_master cap_list                           

          resources: ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:c1000000-c1ffffff ioport:c4000000(size=469762048)                                                            

        *-display                                                               

             description: VGA compatible controller                             

             product: C77 [GeForce 8200M G]                                     

             vendor: nVidia Corporation                                         

             physical id: 0                                                     

             bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0                                         

             version: a2                                                        

             width: 64 bits                                                     

             clock: 33MHz                                                       

             capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list rom                       

             configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0                             

             resources: irq:19 memory:c1000000-c1ffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff(prefetchable) memory:c4000000-c5ffffff(prefetchable) ioport:4000(size=128) memory:c6000000-c601ffff(prefetchable)                                              

     *-pci:2                                                                    

          description: PCI bridge                                               

          product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge                             

          vendor: nVidia Corporation                                            

          physical id: 14                                                       

          bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0                                            

          version: a1                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 33MHz                                                          

          capabilities: pci pm msi ht pciexpress bus_master cap_list            

          configuration: driver=pcieport-driver                                 

          resources: irq:24 memory:c2000000-c20fffff                            

        *-network                                                               

             description: Wireless interface                                    

             product: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter                           

             vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.                                

             physical id: 0                                                     

             bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0                                         

             logical name: wmaster0                                             

             version: 01                                                        

             serial: 00:23:4e:05:64:95                                          

             width: 64 bits                                                     

             clock: 33MHz                                                       

             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list logical ethernet physical wireless                                                        

             configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath5k latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg                                                           

             resources: irq:23 memory:c2000000-c200ffff                         

     *-pci:3                                                                    

          description: Host bridge                                              

          product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration                                                                      

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]                                  

          physical id: 101                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0                                            

          version: 40                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 33MHz                                                          

     *-pci:4                                                                    

          description: Host bridge                                              

          product: Family 11h [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map       

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]                                  

          physical id: 102                                                      

          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1                                            

          version: 00                                                           

          width: 32 bits                                                        

          clock: 33MHz                                                          

     *-pci:5                                                                    

          description: Host bridge                                              

          product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller   

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]                                  

          physical id: 103

          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2

          version: 00

          width: 32 bits

          clock: 33MHz

     *-pci:6

          description: Host bridge

          product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]

          physical id: 104

          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3

          version: 00

          width: 32 bits

          clock: 33MHz

     *-pci:7

          description: Host bridge

          product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control

          vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]

          physical id: 105

          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4

          version: 00

          width: 32 bits

          clock: 33MHz

     *-scsi

          physical id: c

          bus info: usb@1:1

          logical name: scsi4

          capabilities: emulated scsi-host

          configuration: driver=usb-storage

        *-disk

             description: SCSI Disk

             physical id: 0.0.0

             bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0

             logical name: /dev/sdb

zio.luciano · 12-01-2010, 13:41

La sostituzione è possibile, devi capire qual è il processore più potente che la scheda madre, l'alimentatore e soprattutto il sistema di dissipazione riescono a reggere.

Usa CPUZ per capire il socket, IMHO è altamente improbabile sia un skt A come scritto nel report che hai postato (a proposito, per favorire la leggibilità del thread, edita il post qua sopra, metti il tag code o spoiler)

nicolait · 12-01-2010, 13:46

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Originariamente inviato da zio.luciano

La sostituzione è possibile, devi capire qual è il processore più potente che la scheda madre, l'alimentatore e soprattutto il sistema di dissipazione riescono a reggere.

L'alimentatore in un portatile non è un problema sostituendo la cpu; il sistema di dissipazione a quanto ho visto di solito è standard per ogni modello di pc, ed è sempre lui anche se cambia la cpu.

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 13:56

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Originariamente inviato da zio.luciano

La sostituzione è possibile, devi capire qual è il processore più potente che la scheda madre, l'alimentatore e soprattutto il sistema di dissipazione riescono a reggere.

Usa CPUZ per capire il socket, IMHO è altamente improbabile sia un skt A come scritto nel report che hai postato (a proposito, per favorire la leggibilità del thread, edita il post qua sopra, metti il tag code o spoiler)

non sò risponderti per quanto riguarda il socket.

io però credo che non possano essere sbagliate le informazioni. Uso linux e le ho ricavare dando il comando sudo lshw a terminale, non possono esserci errori. CREDO

nicolait · 12-01-2010, 14:05

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Originariamente inviato da Giovanni420

non sò risponderti per quanto riguarda il socket.

io però credo che non possano essere sbagliate le informazioni. Uso linux e le ho ricavare dando il comando sudo lshw a terminale, non possono esserci errori. CREDO

Puoi verificarlo di persona che c'è un errore: quella cpu lì non è mai stata fabbricata su socket A.

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 14:35

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Originariamente inviato da nicolait

Puoi verificarlo di persona che c'è un errore: quella cpu lì non è mai stata fabbricata su socket A.

non lo sapevo, comunque dovrebbero essere quelli elencati da JamesDean i processori compatibili. per la RAM cosa mi consigliate di fare? Metto un modulo come quello che ho adesso più grande o le cambio entrambe con qualcosa di più performante?

andy45 · 12-01-2010, 15:17

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non lo sapevo, comunque dovrebbero essere quelli elencati da JamesDean i processori compatibili. per la RAM cosa mi consigliate di fare? Metto un modulo come quello che ho adesso più grande o le cambio entrambe con qualcosa di più performante?

La ram non ti conviene cambiarla, passare da 3 gb a 4 non comporta nessun incremento di prestazioni...giusto se usi qualche programma che la satura completamente altrimenti risparmiati i soldi.
La cpu è su socket S1, cmq occhio che i turion x2 ultra (ho un notebook con ZM-80) su linux hanno un po di problemi con il risparmio energetico ed il supporto al multi core...il risparmio energetico è praticamente inesistente, la batteria mi durava 30 minuti.

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 16:51

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La ram non ti conviene cambiarla, passare da 3 gb a 4 non comporta nessun incremento di prestazioni...giusto se usi qualche programma che la satura completamente altrimenti risparmiati i soldi.
La cpu è su socket S1, cmq occhio che i turion x2 ultra (ho un notebook con ZM-80) su linux hanno un po di problemi con il risparmio energetico ed il supporto al multi core...il risparmio energetico è praticamente inesistente, la batteria mi durava 30 minuti.

Non sapevo di questi problemi con turion su linux, grazie mille dell'informazione!
Per il cambio non sarà difficile avendo già un pò di manualità con i pc fissi e barebone..

zio.luciano · 12-01-2010, 17:11

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Originariamente inviato da nicolait

L'alimentatore in un portatile non è un problema sostituendo la cpu; il sistema di dissipazione a quanto ho visto di solito è standard per ogni modello di pc, ed è sempre lui anche se cambia la cpu.

Per l'alimentatore è vero sui portatili recenti, su quelli di qualche anno fa' la situazione era leggermente diversa.

Il discorso sul sistema di dissipazione è fondamentale: è vero che spesso è "standard" per ogni modello della stessa famiglia di portatili, però tocca controllare se realmente è in grado di reggere il processore più potente che si può montare su quel socket (qui non parlo per sentito dire ma per esperienza diretta).

andy45 · 12-01-2010, 17:57

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Originariamente inviato da zio.luciano

Per l'alimentatore è vero sui portatili recenti, su quelli di qualche anno fa' la situazione era leggermente diversa.

Il discorso sul sistema di dissipazione è fondamentale: è vero che spesso è "standard" per ogni modello della stessa famiglia di portatili, però tocca controllare se realmente è in grado di reggere il processore più potente che si può montare su quel socket (qui non parlo per sentito dire ma per esperienza diretta).

Concordo in pieno, cmq ricercando un po in rete ho trovato che la serie CQ60-1XX monta come cpu amd anche il QL-60 e lo ZM-80, il QL-60 ha un tdp di 35W, mentre lo ZM-80 di 32W...a meno di dissipatori particolari per il modello CQ60-117el (ma ne dubito), almeno dal punto di vista della dissipazione del calore non dovrebbero esserci problemi.

Giovanni420 · 12-01-2010, 22:02

quindi cosa mi consigliate ragazzi? procedo con questo upgrade o meno? le prestazioni cambierebbero di parecchio rispetto al AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40.

zio.luciano · 13-01-2010, 08:09

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Originariamente inviato da Giovanni420

quindi cosa mi consigliate ragazzi? procedo con questo upgrade o meno? le prestazioni cambierebbero di parecchio rispetto al AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40.

Se vuoi avere un tangibile miglioramento IMHO ti consiglio di fare un upgrade del disco rigido con un modello da 7200 rpm o meglio ancora con un SSD (ma qui il prezzo è più alto). Valuta in base alle tue esigenze.

nicolait · 13-01-2010, 08:44

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Originariamente inviato da Giovanni420

quindi cosa mi consigliate ragazzi? procedo con questo upgrade o meno? le prestazioni cambierebbero di parecchio rispetto al AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40.

Se fai uso di programmi che impiegano molto la cpu, un certo beneficio dovresti averlo, altrimenti è logico di no.

nicolait · 13-01-2010, 08:45

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Originariamente inviato da zio.luciano

Se vuoi avere un tangibile miglioramento IMHO ti consiglio di fare un upgrade del disco rigido con un modello da 7200 rpm o meglio ancora con un SSD (ma qui il prezzo è più alto). Valuta in base alle tue esigenze.

Mah, io ti sto scrivendo da un netbook in cui ho installato un ssd da 128 Gb esattamente un anno fà, e sinceramente a parte i solodi spesi non è che abbia avvertito degli aumenti di prestazioni notevoli.

zio.luciano · 13-01-2010, 08:51

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Mah, io ti sto scrivendo da un netbook in cui ho installato un ssd da 128 Gb esattamente un anno fà, e sinceramente a parte i solodi spesi non è che abbia avvertito degli aumenti di prestazioni notevoli.

In effetti la via SSD è ancora un po' "sconosciuta", per questo ho consigliato prima un HD un po' più prestante.

A livello di transfer rate / seek time / usabilità come ti trovi? Quali sono le differenze più evidenti rispetto ad un disco tradizionale?

11-01-2010, 23:16	#1
Giovanni420 Member Iscritto dal: Apr 2004 Città: Padova Messaggi: 101	cambio processore su portatile ciao, ho un compaq presario "cq60 117el" vorrei cambiare il lentissimo AMD Sempron a 2Ghz, è possibile fare una cosa del genere su un portatile? qual'è il processore più performante installabile sulla mia scheda madre?? grazie __________________ AMD Athlon64 3,2Ghz, 1024 RAM CORSAIR, M\B K8V SE Deluxe, Asus 9800XT, Hd Samsung 120GB, DVD LG 16/48, Masterizzatore PLEXTOR PX708A.......

12-01-2010, 13:41	#7
zio.luciano Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 2005 Città: L'Aquila Messaggi: 3653	La sostituzione è possibile, devi capire qual è il processore più potente che la scheda madre, l'alimentatore e soprattutto il sistema di dissipazione riescono a reggere. Usa CPUZ per capire il socket, IMHO è altamente improbabile sia un skt A come scritto nel report che hai postato (a proposito, per favorire la leggibilità del thread, edita il post qua sopra, metti il tag code o spoiler) __________________ ThinkPad P14s gen2 AMD\|Ryzen 7 PRO 5850U\|48GB DDR4\|SSD SK hynix 1TB\|Win 11 pro Unihertz Titan Pocket \| EOS 600D \| Opteron su notebook \| VENDO: - \| CERCO: -

12-01-2010, 22:02	#16
Giovanni420 Member Iscritto dal: Apr 2004 Città: Padova Messaggi: 101	quindi cosa mi consigliate ragazzi? procedo con questo upgrade o meno? le prestazioni cambierebbero di parecchio rispetto al AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3,2Ghz, 1024 RAM CORSAIR, M\B K8V SE Deluxe, Asus 9800XT, Hd Samsung 120GB, DVD LG 16/48, Masterizzatore PLEXTOR PX708A.......

12-01-2010, 04:34	#2
Panther89 Member Iscritto dal: Jan 2010 Messaggi: 142	nei notebook più recenti le possibilità di upgrade si limitano alla Ram e all'Hard disk. i componenti principali, come processore e scheda grafica, vengono saldati alla motherboard.

12-01-2010, 08:37	#3
nicolait Senior Member Iscritto dal: Oct 2009 Messaggi: 2944	Mah, io veramente ne ho upgradate diverse di cpu, anche su portatili recenti. Francamente l'unico che ho saldato alla mb è l'atom del mio netbook. In ogni modo per rispondere alla domanda, per capire la cpu più potente installabile io ho sempre guardato il chipset del pc, e da questo si risale alla cpu.

12-01-2010, 12:07	#4
JamesDean Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2005 Città: MB Messaggi: 2767	Questa dovrebbe essere la cpu piu potente che tu possa installare la trovi su ebay a 125 spedito cmq queste dovrebbero essere le cpu compatibili con il tuo laptop QL-60,QL-62,QL-64,RM-70,RM-72,ZM-80,ZM-82,ZM-84,ZM-85,ZM-86,ZM-87 i prezzi partono dai 40 euro fino ai 125 io ti consiglio la serie ZM cmq per sicurezza posta uno screen di CPUZ

12-01-2010, 13:26	#6
Giovanni420 Member Iscritto dal: Apr 2004 Città: Padova Messaggi: 101	trovato!! ecco una schermata della configurazione del mio portatile. Codice PHP: compaq description: Notebook product: Compaq Presario CQ60 Notebook PC vendor: Hewlett-Packard version: F.25 serial: 2CE842LDN7 width: 32 bits capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=notebook cpus=1 uuid=E92B99C0-A0ED-11DD-9A6C-8E6F8672855C -core description: Motherboard product: 303C vendor: Wistron physical id: 0 version: 08.45 -firmware description: BIOS vendor: Hewlett-Packard physical id: 0 version: F.25 (10/03/2008) size: 102KiB capacity: 960KiB capabilities: isa pci pcmcia pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot acpi usb agp biosbootspecification -cpu description: CPU product: AMD Sempron(tm) SI-40 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 3 bus info: cpu@0 version: 15.3.1 slot: Socket A size: 1GHz capacity: 2GHz width: 64 bits clock: 133MHz capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc up nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit cpufreq -cache:0 description: L1 cache physical id: 5 slot: L1 Cache size: 128KiB capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back -cache:1 description: L2 cache physical id: 6 slot: L2 Cache size: 512KiB capacity: 2MiB capabilities: synchronous internal write-through unified -memory:0 description: System Memory physical id: 4 slot: System board or motherboard size: 3GiB -bank:0 description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns) physical id: 0 slot: S1 size: 2GiB width: 32 bits clock: 667MHz (1.5ns) -bank:1 description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns) physical id: 1 slot: S2 size: 1GiB width: 32 bits clock: 667MHz (1.5ns) -memory:1 UNCLAIMED description: RAM memory product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 5 bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz (15.2ns) capabilities: ht bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 -isa description: ISA bridge product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: isa bus_master configuration: latency=0 resources: ioport:1a00(size=256) -serial description: SMBus product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm cap_list configuration: driver=nForce2_smbus latency=0 resources: irq:10 ioport:3080(size=64) ioport:3040(size=64) ioport:3000(size=64) -processor UNCLAIMED description: Co-processor product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-Processor vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1.3 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.3 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: bus_master configuration: latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: memory:c0080000-c00fffff -memory:2 UNCLAIMED description: RAM memory product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1.4 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.4 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz (15.2ns) configuration: latency=0 -usb:0 description: USB Controller product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:17 memory:c0006000-c0006fff -usb:1 description: USB Controller product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 2.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: debug pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:17 memory:c0007000-c00070ff -usb:2 description: USB Controller product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: b bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:16 memory:c0008000-c0008fff -usb:3 description: USB Controller product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 4.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:04.1 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: debug pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:16 memory:c0007400-c00074ff -ide:0 description: IDE interface product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 6 bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pata_amd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:30c0(size=16) -multimedia description: Audio device product: MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 7 bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0 maxlatency=5 mingnt=2 resources: irq:20 memory:c0000000-c0003fff -pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 8 bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pci ht bus_master cap_list -ide:1 description: IDE interface product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SATA Controller (non-AHCI mode) vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 9 bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0 logical name: scsi0 logical name: scsi1 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide pm msi ht bus_master cap_list emulated configuration: driver=ahci latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3 resources: irq:25 ioport:30f0(size=8) ioport:30e4(size=4) ioport:30e8(size=8) ioport:30e0(size=4) ioport:30d0(size=16) memory:c0004000-c0005fff -cdrom description: DVD-RAM writer product: DVDRAM GSA-T50L vendor: HL-DT-ST physical id: 0 bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/cdrom logical name: /dev/cdrw logical name: /dev/dvd logical name: /dev/dvdrw logical name: /dev/scd0 logical name: /dev/sr0 version: SC04 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc -disk description: ATA Disk product: WDC WD2500BEVT-6 vendor: Western Digital physical id: 1 bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/sda version: 13.0 serial: WD-WXE908KT9213 size: 232GiB (250GB) capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=93119311 -volume:0 description: EXT4 volume vendor: Linux physical id: 1 bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,1 logical name: /dev/sda1 logical name: / version: 1.0 serial: 72d18df7-2db7-43ce-9156-85dfa54796e4 size: 224GiB capacity: 224GiB capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized configuration: created=2010-01-05 20:00:13 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/�ADf��X�6��x��H}�H}�f��u��f��p.&��d modified=2010-01-11 22:04:16 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-01-12 12:49:38 state=mounted -volume:1 description: Extended partition physical id: 2 bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,2 logical name: /dev/sda2 size: 8118MiB capacity: 8118MiB capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended -logicalvolume description: Linux swap / Solaris partition physical id: 5 logical name: /dev/sda5 capacity: 8118MiB capabilities: nofs -network description: Ethernet interface product: MCP77 Ethernet vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: a bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0 logical name: eth0 version: a2 serial: 00:1f:16:4a:21:50 size: 100MB/s capacity: 100MB/s width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.64 duplex=full ip=29.233.104.42 latency=0 link=yes maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s resources: irq:26 memory:c0009000-c0009fff ioport:30f8(size=8) memory:c0007c00-c0007cff memory:c0007800-c000780f -pci:1 description: PCI bridge product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 100 bus info: pci@0000:00:0b.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pm ht bus_master cap_list resources: ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:c1000000-c1ffffff ioport:c4000000(size=469762048) -display description: VGA compatible controller product: C77 [GeForce 8200M G] vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0 version: a2 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 resources: irq:19 memory:c1000000-c1ffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff(prefetchable) memory:c4000000-c5ffffff(prefetchable) ioport:4000(size=128) memory:c6000000-c601ffff(prefetchable) -pci:2 description: PCI bridge product: MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 14 bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci pm msi ht pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport-driver resources: irq:24 memory:c2000000-c20fffff -network description: Wireless interface product: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Atheros Communications Inc. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0 logical name: wmaster0 version: 01 serial: 00:23:4e:05:64:95 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list logical ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath5k latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg resources: irq:23 memory:c2000000-c200ffff -pci:3 description: Host bridge product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 101 bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0 version: 40 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -pci:4 description: Host bridge product: Family 11h [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 102 bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -pci:5 description: Host bridge product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 103 bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -pci:6 description: Host bridge product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 104 bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -pci:7 description: Host bridge product: Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 105 bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -scsi physical id: c bus info: usb@1:1 logical name: scsi4 capabilities: emulated scsi-host configuration: driver=usb-storage -disk description: SCSI Disk physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/sdb __________________ AMD Athlon64 3,2Ghz, 1024 RAM CORSAIR, M\B K8V SE Deluxe, Asus 9800XT, Hd Samsung 120GB, DVD LG 16/48, Masterizzatore PLEXTOR PX708A....... 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