[Wii][Thread Ufficiale]Metroid Corruption

[bronzodiriace]

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Eri all'evento del 15 settembre a Londra? Ai tempi volevo trovare qualche modo di imbucarmi per curiosità ma ci rinunciai.

yeh

[nekromantik]

Ritieniti un privilegiato!

[gogetas]

raga non so a voi ma a me quel livello nel cielo fa un effetto paura, mi ricorda myst, la scelta dei colori azzeccatissima

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da gogetas

raga non so a voi ma a me quel livello nel cielo fa un effetto paura, mi ricorda myst, la scelta dei colori azzeccatissima

Si lo abbiamo notato in molti

Più che Myst mi ricorda Riven, ma solo perchè il primo era fatto di video QT in bassissima risoluzione (non vedo l'ora di rigiocarlo sul DS)

Molto Evocativo

[Lins]

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - bigger, badder, and better

A few choice quotes from the latest issue of Nintendo Power (thanks MattTheGameFreak!)

“Another major improvement over the previous game is that the re-traversal aspects are now more tightly integrated into the adventure. In Echoes, being forced to hoof back to an area that you’d already explored often felt arbitrary; like it was something you had to do just because it was a Metroid game. Corruption does a far better job of giving those return trips a purpose, and often introduces some new element to keep things fresh. Your first journey to a large temple on Bryyo, for instance, is relatively quiet, and allows you to focus on simply reaching your destination. When you return later to deactive an underground shield generator, however, you’ll find that space pirates have discovered the temple and set up a mobile command post, making your second trek more combat-intensive.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor.

“In the first six hours of the game (which is only 19% according to the in-game progress tracker), We’ve already faced off against five baddies, and all of them have been extremely well designed. They offer just the right amount of challenge, and in true series fashion force you to perfect using your various abilities in tandem. Taking down one of these goliaths always brings a great sense of accomplishment.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

“Best of all, none of this comes at the expense of complexity or ingenuity. As a matter of fact, these might be the most mind-bending puzzles in the series, and many of them force you to think outside the Metroid box. Corruption doesn’t throw away the rule book, but it certainly adds new chapters.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

It’s nice to have a confirmation that the exploration and puzzle elements are back. I am really eager to check out how expanded the ideas are for the puzzle portions.

[nekromantik]

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption [Preview]
Written By: Mark Podd

Samus is back, and she's ready to kick some arse
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The problem with revolution is that no matter what happens, invariably you’ll find just as many people kicking up a fuss about what’s happened as those who are grinning from ear to ear about the net result of events. It’s certainly something gamers are finding in these post-Wii launch times.

On the one hand, you’ve got those who couldn’t be happier about it; those who have seen a world beyond the prettier high def visuals of the Wii’s competitors, a world that is simpler and more instinctive to control and one where non-gamers will meet invitations to ‘have a go’ with open arms, rather than the usual polite refusal.

On the other, you have those who seem somewhat less enthusiastic, who regard waving a remote control around as being little more than a imprecise, tiring alternative to “proper” controllers and scant consolation for the standard definition, last-gen visuals served up by Nintendo’s diminutive white plastic box.

The question of who’s right and who’s wrong has been a much debated topic, and in truth, while there’s been plenty of decent titles for the Wii since it launched, none had quite managed to put the argument to bed once and for all. However, that’s all about to change soon – enter Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.


While the task of convincing those more jaded gamers described above to embrace the Wii’s new control system without compromising the progress Nintendo has made in expanding gaming’s audience isn’t an enviable one, it’s one that the Prime spin off series should be more than capable of negotiating. Having set the standard for first person action titles on the GameCube, Prime: Hunters was also a key title when it was released on the DS, proving not only that the DS was capable of compelling, deep games as much as the next console, but that it was able to enhance the overall experience by using the touch screen.

As such, a similar task is set to befall MP3:C. Having taken a backseat on the development of Prime: Hunters (the coding duties for which were handled within Nintendo’ Redmond based NST studio, albeit under the supervision of Retro), Retro Studios has once again assumed control of the Prime spin off of the Metroid series.

In keeping with the method of control adopted by the likes of Eleedees, Red Steel and other first person games on the Wii, Metroid Prime 3 sees gamers dual wielding the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, using the former to direct Samus’ aim and the latter to move her around. Admittedly, it’s a control method that hasn’t exactly shone when employed in previous titles, but then again, this is Retro Studios we’re talking about here, and by all accounts, the controls are a lot more precise and well weighted than those of its peers.

And it’s here where Retro is allowing its maiden Wii title shine. Everything about Metroid Prime 3 is more instinctive than its predecessors, be that in offering more intense fire fights or even the small details like guiding Samus’ hand towards door handles to open doors, press buttons, etc.

Combat should also be more fluid thanks to the stackable weapons system, similar to those employed in the 2D Metroid games, while Samus’ ability to morph into a ball has also been retained.

Indeed, MP3 won’t simply be silencing the critics there. While Nintendo’s baby might not be able to do the fancy Dan high-def visuals of the 360 and PS3, the lush detail and stunning special effects of Corruption should finally see the Wii’s ill-deserved GameCube-with-a-wavy-controller-thing mantle lifted.

That said, there are ample other reasons to play it, a particularly big one being the fact that it will mark the final chapter in the Prime trilogy. Picking up where Echoes left off, Retro Studios has thrust our heroin into a suitably epic scenario.

With the Space Pirates and Dark Samus spreading Phazon crystals like its going out of fashion, Samus is thrust into battles alongside fellow hunters as they attempt to rid the universe of these meddlesome terrorists. With Samus herself said to be infected with the maddening Phazon crystals (which can both kill her and be used to her own advantage) and a battle to the death with the ultra powerful Dark Samus in the offing, Corruption is looking like it will bring the Metroid Prime series to a stunning conclusion.

With games like Mario Strikers already using the system and the faster, more shooter orientated gameplay likely to make it an ideal multiplayer game, there’s been no shortage of speculation suggesting that Corruption will make use of WiiConnect24, although whether this is the case or not – and indeed, in what form it would arrive – remains to be seen. Although given how both the PS3 and 360 are showing no signs of a shortage of online shooters, we certainly hope Nintendo and Retro can make it happen.

At present, Metroid Prime 3 is looking odds on for a release towards the end of summer, and provided Retro doesn’t miraculously cock things up between now and then, should be nothing less than epic.

Altra preview:

Nintendo fans, rejoice. Metroid Prime 3 is going to be the best Metroid Prime game yet. It's been burdened with the enormous task of fulfilling Nintendo's promise of providing unsurpassed FPS controls through the Wii Remote and Nunchuck. Surprisingly, Metroid Prime 3 has more than delivered in this near-final E3 build. Not only do the controls work exactly as we'd like them to, Retro Studios has surprised us by fleshing out the Metroid experience with its most ambitious story yet.

Long-time Metroid fans will appreciate the game's opening moments. We're taken inside Samus' trademark space ship. Have we ever been here before? Interfacing with the ship through the Wii Remote certainly felt exciting, allowing players to control Samus' ship -- something we can't remember ever doing in the series' history. Players will touch various panels within the ship, and pull a lever, providing a simple facsimile of piloting a real space ship.

As you dock your ship in a battleship, you'll meet a small army of NPCs. Imagine our surprise when they referred to Samus' previous exploits, fully voiced. In the game's opening moments, Samus will be able to interact with characters that feature full voice acting, seemingly a rarity in modern Nintendo-published efforts. We appreciate the series attempting to connect Corruption to the previous Prime games, but we have to admit that the heavy-handed nature of the story caught us a little off-guard. Watching the Galactic Federation talk about the conquest of the Space Pirates made us think we were watching Halo 2, not a Metroid Prime game. However, Metroid purists need not worry: Samus still goes on as a mute.

The calm that resonates in Corruption's beginning can only last for so long. Obviously, trouble is brewing, and a virus attacks the Federation network. Samus must quickly return to action. There are now three control options: Basic, Standard and Advanced. By default, the game runs with Standard controls, but we found the Advanced method to be the most satisfying. In Standard mode, players will move the Wii Remote and lock on to enemies much like they have in previous Prime games. However, in Advanced Mode, players will be able to move the Wii Remote freely, and have their in-game view move simultaneously. Gone are the bounding-box problems of previous Wii FPS titles. Advanced Mode makes navigating a first person environment a joy. For example, in Red Steel, players struggled to look left or right quickly, because the cursor would not move the view. This issue is completely resolved in Advanced Mode, making it the most accurate recreation of FPS mouse movement we've seen in a Wii title so far.

Samus' newfound agility makes the shooting element in the Metroid series much more challenging, and much more fun. In Advanced Mode, players can choose to have the camera lock on to an enemy, but the player's aim can move independently from lock-on. Players will have to precisely aim, instead of simply relying on the lock-on. The multiple control options should allow players of all skill levels to play the game.

Less than thirty minutes into the game, we've acquired the ability to fire missiles, and we have our Scan Visor ready. The game then tests our skills in a boss fight that requires truly precise aiming. The massive enemy that looms over Samus has glowing red shoulders which must be targeted and destroyed. Only then, will the enemy launch an attack made of Phazon, which must be fired back at the enemy to reveal its final weak point. Aiming at the shoulders would have been much easier with lock-on, but we enjoyed the challenge of having to jump around attacks, and over shock waves whilst firing away at the weak point. It should come as a testament to the controls that this was all possible, even if it did take a couple of Game Overs to ultimately win. Hitting the oncoming projectiles was an absolute breeze thanks to the Wii Remote's quick responsiveness. If there is one qualm we'd make about the revised controls, it has to be the missiles: pressing Down on the D-Pad in the midst of a heated battle still feels awkward to us. Thankfully, it wasn't too necessary in the first boss battle we encountered.

After the boss battle, players will see Samus make a brilliant escape to her ship. (We don't want to spoil it to our readers.) When we arrive on Samus' ship, we must make way to our next destination. Once again, we were caught off-guard by something we didn't expect: the incredible size of the world map. It looks as though Prime 3 will provide Samus with the greatest variety of locales to explore. Our next destination made just a small portion of a map that we're sure will encompass a small galaxy. Nintendo promises that each of the multiple worlds that Samus visits in Corruption will be fully realized. Color us impressed! Certainly, that's a relief to hear after the somewhat stagnant and repetitive Metroid Prime 2: Echoes on Gamecube.

The next part of the demo continues in an area we've already explored in last year's E3 presentation. The same ideas were reiterated: the Nunchuck was used as a grappling beam, one that could grab debris and move them out of our way. As expected, ball puzzles returned as well.

Our time with Corruption ended with a hint of things to come. Samus must deal with other bounty hunters in a story that marks the return of Dark Samus and Phazon. Phazon will corrupt the bounty hunters, and Samus will have to use a new Hypermode to fight the effects of the corrupting Phazon. We admit it: the story has us intrigued.

Although we understand that graphics aren't the most important aspect to many gamers, it's still disappointing to see Metroid Prime look the way it does. While there are new lighting effects in place, it's easy to say that Corruption still does not match the visual quality of last generation's best games. Character models are especially disappointing, missing the bump mapping found in games such as Halo 2 or Mario Sunshine. A quick glance at the game will bring warranted comparisons to the Gamecube original, and we're saddened to see Retro Studios fail to push the Wii graphically. At least it runs in 480p and widescreen.

Also, we find it interesting that Retro has opted to remove multiplayer from Corruption. While Prime 2's multiplayer was laughable, we think the new control mechanism for Corruption would've created a far better FPS experience than other Wii titles currently provide. If this is truly the end of the Prime series of games, maybe the team at Retro Studios can craft an original Wii multiplayer FPS game? One can only hope.

Both Metroid Prime 3 and Super Mario Galaxy have done a great job at reminding us that Nintendo hasn't abandoned the core gamer completely. It's been a long time since we've dusted off our Wii, and we can't wait to finally play a game meant just for us. The game will be available in late August.

[Lins]

Per la prima volta leggo commenti negativi sulla grafica :

Character models are especially disappointing, missing the bump mapping found in games such as Halo 2 or Mario Sunshine. A quick glance at the game will bring warranted comparisons to the Gamecube original, and we're saddened to see Retro Studios fail to push the Wii graphically. At least it runs in 480p and widescreen.

Mi incuriosisce cio', anche se in Metroid va guardato tutto tra ambientazione, grafica, suono etc (rendendo l'esperienza unica nel suo genere )

[nekromantik]

Qualcuno si deve pur distinguere, no? ^__-

[Lins]

Eh si

Per quali testate, riviste, siti scrivono ?

[Max(IT)]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Per la prima volta leggo commenti negativi sulla grafica :



Mi incuriosisce cio', anche se in Metroid va guardato tutto tra ambientazione, grafica, suono etc (rendendo l'esperienza unica nel suo genere )

perchè non mi sorprende ?

[bronzodiriace]

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Per la prima volta leggo commenti negativi sulla grafica :



Mi incuriosisce cio', anche se in Metroid va guardato tutto tra ambientazione, grafica, suono etc (rendendo l'esperienza unica nel suo genere )

figurati che la demo che provai a londra era già x superiore a metroid prime 2 echoes ed i modelli dei personaggi e degli hunters erano ottimi.

Ora a distanza di un hanno è molto migliorato graficamente, quindi state tranquilli

spacca in toto metroid prime 3 corruption

[nekromantik]

Originariamente inviato da bronzodiriace

spacca in toto metroid prime 3 corruption

Su questo nessuno ha manifestato il minimo dubbio.

[nekromantik]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - bigger, badder, and better

“Un'altro grande miglioramente rispetto al predecessore è il fatto che ora il riattraversamento di locazioni già esplorate risulta molto più integrato nell'avventura. In Echoes, l'essere forzati a tornare sui propri passi spesso appariva arbitrario, come se fosse qualcosa da fare semplicemente perché era un gioco di Metroid. Corruption fa il lavoro migliore di dare a questi viaggi un senso e spesso introduce qualche elemento di novità. Ad esempio la prima visita al tempio su Bryyo è piuttosto tranquilla, permettendo di concentrarsi sul semplice raggiungimento della destinazione. Ritornando più tardi per disattivare un generatore di scudo sotteraneo, si scopre che i pirati spaziali hanno scoperto il tempio stabilendo un posto di comando mobile, rendendo il tutto molto più intenso dal punto di vista del combattimento” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor.

“Nelle prime sei ore di gioco (solo il 19%, secondo il tracciatore interno), abbiamo già incontrato cinque "cattivi", e tutti erano estremamente ben progettati, offrendo la giusta dose di sfida e, nel vero stile della serie, forzandoti ad utilizzare insieme in maniera perfetta le tue abilità. Abbattere uno di quei Golia porta sempre un gran senso di soddisfazione.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

“Meglio di tutto, nessuno di essi difetta in complessità o ingenuità. È un dato di fatto che questi possano essere i puzzle più cervellotici della serie, e molti ti costringono a pensare fuori dalla "scatola" Metroid. Corruption non getta alle ortiche il libro delle regole, anzi aggiunge sicuramente nuovi capitoli.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

[Motosauro]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

perchè non mi sorprende ?

Perché sei prevenuto a dir poco?

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da nekromantik

“Un'altro grande miglioramente rispetto al predecessore è il fatto che ora il riattraversamento di locazioni già esplorate risulta molto più integrato nell'avventura. In Echoes, l'essere forzati a tornare sui propri passi spesso appariva arbitrario, come se fosse qualcosa da fare semplicemente perché era un gioco di Metroid. Corruption fa il lavoro migliore di dare a questi viaggi un senso e spesso introduce qualche elemento di novità. Ad esempio la prima visita al tempio su Bryyo è piuttosto tranquilla, permettendo di concentrarsi sul semplice raggiungimento della destinazione. Ritornando più tardi per disattivare un generatore di scudo sotteraneo, si scopre che i pirati spaziali hanno scoperto il tempio stabilendo un posto di comando mobile, rendendo il tutto molto più intenso dal punto di vista del combattimento” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor.

“Nelle prime sei ore di gioco (solo il 19%, secondo il tracciatore interno), abbiamo già incontrato cinque "cattivi", e tutti erano estremamente ben progettati, offrendo la giusta dose di sfida e, nel vero stile della serie, forzandoti ad utilizzare insieme in maniera perfetta le tue abilità. Abbattere uno di quei Golia porta sempre un gran senso di soddisfazione.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

“Meglio di tutto, nessuno di essi difetta in complessità o ingenuità. È un dato di fatto che questi possano essere i puzzle più cervellotici della serie, e molti ti costringono a pensare fuori dalla "scatola" Metroid. Corruption non getta alle ortiche il libro delle regole, anzi aggiunge sicuramente nuovi capitoli.” - Steve Thomason, Nintendo Power editor

Ti sei meritato la first page

[Lins]

Metroid Retrospective Part 1 : http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22771.html

Godetevelo

[Motosauro]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Metroid Retrospective Part 1 : http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22771.html

Godetevelo

thx

Io di quel periodo ricordo più turrican, ma anche Metroid ha lasciato il segno.

[Max(IT)]

Originariamente inviato da Motosauro

Perché sei prevenuto a dir poco?

... oppure realista ?

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

... oppure realista ?

Mah.... premesso che stiamo tutti parlando per sentito dire..... tutti le review tranne una elogiano la parte grafica di Corruption pur ammettendo che è inferiore alle altre due console, ovviamente direi data la differenza di potenza.

Le cose son due :

• La Nintendo sta usando i proventi del DS per pagare i reviewer tranne uno
• Chi ha scritto quella review ha bollato Corruption come graficamente brutto dato che non c'è alcuna normal map applicata, nè bump map estremo, nè tonalità tendente totalmente al grigio

Ovviamente sono ironico, è venerdi' e sto per andare a casa
Tra pochi giorni fioccheranno le review sul prodotto finale

[CHUP4]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Mah.... premesso che stiamo tutti parlando per sentito dire..... tutti le review tranne una elogiano la parte grafica di Corruption pur ammettendo che è inferiore alle altre due console, ovviamente direi data la differenza di potenza.

Le cose son due :

• La Nintendo sta usando i proventi del DS per pagare i reviewer tranne uno
• Chi ha scritto quella review ha bollato Corruption come graficamente brutto dato che non c'è alcuna normal map applicata, nè bump map estremo, nè tonalità tendente totalmente al grigio

Ovviamente sono ironico, è venerdi' e sto per andare a casa
Tra pochi giorni fioccheranno le review sul prodotto finale

Le hai cannate entrambe, la verità è che quella review l'ha scritta Max