[Wii][Thread Ufficiale]Metroid Corruption

[Max(IT)]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Non ne vedo il motivo, questo è il thread ufficiale, considerando che il gioco esce tra pochi mesi c'è la possibilità di utilizzare lo stesso.
Mal che vada ne creo uno nuovo incollando la prima pagina e dettagliando le informazioni di corruption

questo thread si chiama "aspettando Metroid", non è e non può essere quello ufficiale del gioco

Originariamente inviato da bronzodiriace

ed intanto và a 60fps
quando quelli "next gen" sono sempre a 30 claudicante con tearing a manetta.

hai mai giocato a GOW ? Il tearing non sa neppure cosa sia ed i 30 fps "cluadicanti" li hai sognati
I 60 fps sono una buona cosa, ma non certo un must, visto che X360 ci ha sin qui fatto vedere dei signori giochi a 30 fps senza un minimo di scattosità.

[bronzodiriace]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

questo thread si chiama "aspettando Metroid", non è e non può essere quello ufficiale del gioco



hai mai giocato a GOW ? Il tearing non sa neppure cosa sia ed i 30 fps "cluadicanti" li hai sognati
I 60 fps sono una buona cosa, ma non certo un must, visto che X360 ci ha sin qui fatto vedere dei signori giochi a 30 fps senza un minimo di scattosità.

gow non scatta? Mi sà che ti sbagli

vedi sopratutto il multiplayer


graw 1-2 è 30 fps ed ha problemi di tearing come tantissimi altri titoli per x360.
Idem rainbow six las vegas e compagnia bella.
COndemned 30fps [su pc a 60fps e su pc l ho giocato]

I 30fps scattosi ed il problema del tearing è assai fastidioso su x360.

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

questo thread si chiama "aspettando Metroid", non è e non può essere quello ufficiale del gioco

Appunto, appena esce il gioco il nome cambia, basta chiedere ai Mod

[Max(IT)]

Originariamente inviato da bronzodiriace

gow non scatta? Mi sà che ti sbagli

vedi sopratutto il multiplayer


graw 1-2 è 30 fps ed ha problemi di tearing come tantissimi altri titoli per x360.
Idem rainbow six las vegas e compagnia bella.
COndemned 30fps [su pc a 60fps e su pc l ho giocato]

I 30fps scattosi ed il problema del tearing è assai fastidioso su x360.

ma li hai giocato quei titoli di cui parli ?!?

decisamente GOW NON SCATTA, idem i GRAW ...
Non confondiamo il lag con certi host con gli scatti dell' engine.
Quei giochi li ho finiti più volte in single, dove il lag non influisce, e non c' è ombra di scatti.

[filibs]

Originariamente inviato da bronzodiriace

gow non scatta? Mi sà che ti sbagli

vedi sopratutto il multiplayer


graw 1-2 è 30 fps ed ha problemi di tearing come tantissimi altri titoli per x360.
Idem rainbow six las vegas e compagnia bella.
COndemned 30fps [su pc a 60fps e su pc l ho giocato]

I 30fps scattosi ed il problema del tearing è assai fastidioso su x360.

Gow scatta a volte solo nelle cutscene fatte col motore di gioco senno è liscio come l'olio, quanda scatta nel multiplayer è lag, gli altri giochi non li ho provati e non posso parlarne.

Mi sapete dire se sono previsti bundle con metroid al posto di wiisport quando uscira il gioco?

[Lins]

Attenzione, gli scatti si notano quando i giochi scendono sotto i 20 fps o per incapacità dei programmatori (vedi ad esempio NFS da Most Wanted in su dove lo stuttering è fastidiosamente presente su tutte le piattaforme)

Di norma tra i 20 e i 35 circa il gioco aumenta di fluidità

Dai 35 in su molte persone non si accorgono della differenza, altre si.

Di norma si preferiscono i 60fps per una fluidità perfetta quando il gioco è povero di dettagli e 30 fps quando vi sono molti dettagli o solitamente in presenza di un gioco FPS (questo perchè per il tipo di gioco, sopratutto online, è fondamentale un frame costante)

Poi ovviamente ci sono le case che grazie agli ottimi programmatori ottimizzano talmente bene il gioco da non avere cali di frame nonostante i 60 impostati

Dai video non è possibile capire a quanti FPS girava Metroid, inoltre sappiate che all' E3 (cosi' come Tokyo Game Show etc ) solitamente le case giocano sporco renderizzando i video a frame rate superiori cosi' da dare sensazioni di maggior fluidità.

Quindi aspettiamo e giudichiamo con i nostri occhi, o quanto meno aspettiamo recensioni sui prodotti finali

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da filibs

Gow scatta a volte solo nelle cutscene fatte col motore di gioco senno è liscio come l'olio, quanda scatta nel multiplayer è lag, gli altri giochi non li ho provati e non posso parlarne.

Mi sapete dire se sono previsti bundle con metroid al posto di wiisport quando uscira il gioco?

Se faranno un Bundle Metroid sarà in aggiunta a Wii Sport dato che in Europa e Usa questo titolo non viene venduto a se

[filibs]

Originariamente inviato da Lins

Se faranno un Bundle Metroid sarà in aggiunta a Wii Sport dato che in Europa e Usa questo titolo non viene venduto a se

Ok, grazie.

[nekromantik]

Che stile!

[hellish]

Originariamente inviato da nekromantik

Che stile!

sbavvv

[nekromantik]

Ennesimo hands-on da Nintendo World Report:

After an hour of Prime Time, is the game is the real deal? Read on to find out.
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When E3 closed down for day two, Nintendo opened up its hotel suite and invited me to sit down and play an extended session of Metroid Prime 3. For that hour of bliss, it was just me, the game, and a widescreen display running at 480p.

All of the hype and anticipation for Corruption will be met. That's a safe claim to make after playing the game for as long as I did. It looks absolutely fantastic in motion. The action moves at the speed and fluidity of F-Zero GX on the GameCube. That's not saying it looks like a GameCube game, however; although the models in the game have a "GameCube Turbo" look to them (not a bad thing), the scope of the environments and the level of detail is astounding. Lighting and particle effects in particular look great, as do the heat effects that warp and distort the area around where Samus fires her arm cannon, which look a lot better than they did on GameCube. In one of the early areas you'll be in a space station while a battle underway outside. In the background big ships fill the view and smaller ships fly all over the place, shooting laser canons that streak the landscape. The speed and scope combined really give off the impression that Retro has the first real Wii game on its hands, at least graphically.

The Wii controls are fantastic, too. The three different pointer sensitivities are designed with different people in mind, and the game will not play that much differently as you switch among them. The two slower settings allow for easier free targeting for newer players, and the lock-on feature (the Z button) makes up for the slower cursor speed, making the game play similar to previous Metroid Prime games. By default, shooting is done with the A Button and jumping with the B Trigger. These two functions can be switched in the options menu, but after trying to shoot rapidly with the trigger I found that I can't pull a trigger faster than I can press a button. I switched back to the default, but kudos to Retro for making the option available.

Flipping the sensitivity to expert is what puts Corruption in a league of its own. The cursor is fast and responsive, yet you can still perform precise aiming without the cursor jittering all over the place. The expert setting also turns on the "lock-on free look" option by default, which allows you to shoot anywhere on the screen while still locked onto an enemy. This makes it possible to strafe around one target and shoot something else that may be threatening, like airborne creatures making a dive for you. This control option is a perfect fit for Wii remote pros, because the aiming controls are so tight that you'll want to shoot at stuff without locking on to anything. The Wii remote setup makes Metroid Prime 3 feel like a true first-person shooter. The only other game on Wii that you could compare it to is Red Steel, which absolutely pales in comparison to the fluidity of Corruption's controls.

You're also going to experience a "wow" moment when you first activate your scan visor and have a look around, but I won't spoil exactly why here. With no second analog stick to switch visors, this time you hold down the Minus(-) Button to bring up the on-screen visor select menu. To choose a new visor you move the aiming cursor into one of three wedges in the circular display. Scan is in the top zone, and the new command visor is in the bottom right. The command visor lets you control your ship from afar, provided you're looking at the proper terminal by a landing site. After playing through the first two Metroid games on GameCube, hitting a button to change visors is a little strange, but I'm sure I will get used to it.

In last year's E3 demo, the grappling beam's controls were strange. Flicking the nunchuk forward still shoots it out, but in the old version you were required to pull back on the analog stick to yank whatever it was you grabbed on to. That has been changed in the final game to a much more natural movement: you must simply pull the nunchuk back to clear debris or de-shield enemies. This really reduces confusion since you don't need to worry about mixing up motion controls with traditional inputs.

The coolest addition to the game is the ability to actually go into Samus' gunship. Being inside the ship is a first for the series, and fanboys will no doubt be drooling over the prospect. It's not just for show, either; Samus can interact with switches and controls inside with the Wii remote by placing her hand on a panel or press buttons with her finger. Pressing the A button while moving her hand around with the remote pointer will make her poke at whatever you're aiming at. It is possible to whiff a simple button press if you aren't paying attention—I did on the ship's numeric keypad—so don't take this activity lightly. It may be especially important later in the game if Samus encouters passcode locks. I just hope that doesn't happen as you need to escape a collapsing structure, because dying because of an errant finger poke would sure suck.

The gameplay is pretty tight. The only thing I am concerned about, perhaps unfoundedly, is the game's voice dialog. Since I've only seen about 15 minutes of opening cinematic, I am in no position to comment on the script or plotline of the game. So I won't. But I will say that I think having characters speak to Samus, knowing that she will never speak back, really bothers me. Mario has never been a vocal character, and all of his games have had limited voice because of it. Samus is much the same way, yet the conversations taking place between her and the people she interacts with, including other bounty hunters, made it feel as though the story were being force-fed down my throat. I must admit that this is really more a nit-pick than a serious issue, especially since I was playing through the story-heavy opening of the game. However, I do hope that there aren't very many one-way discussions as the adventure really pick up. And hey, who knows; we might hear Samus speak. Her face was the original mystery, so maybe her voice will be the next?

Personal annoyances aside, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is only a month away and it's time to get excited about it. I sure as hell am. Corruption is going to set the bar really high for first-person shooters that follow, which is a good thing for the genre moving forward on Wii. I can't imagine what future Wii FPS games will look like, especially ones out of the Nintendo camp, after Corruption. All I know is that I'm getting this game when it comes out. Will you?

Altre conferme quindi: a livello visivo è superbo ed i controlli sono incredibilmente efficaci. Che altro aggiungere?

[Lins]

Originariamente inviato da nekromantik

Ennesimo hands-on da Nintendo World Report:



Altre conferme quindi: a livello visivo è superbo ed i controlli sono incredibilmente efficaci. Che altro aggiungere?

Spe-tta-co-lo

Non vedo l'ora di provarlo, giocarlo e finirlo personalmente.

Probabilmente la Nintendo ha fatto una mossa errata facendo uscire la console con i dev kit acerbi (ok, le features sono like gamecube, ma la potenza è superiore e i controlli differenti) cosa che ha abbassato molto la qualità delle third party, ma ora non ci sono scuse, si aspetta un bel futuro per il Wii

[Lins]

Riorganizzata la prima pagina

Ci si prepara al thread finale

[nekromantik]

E' il turno del portale GasmeSpy:

Samus' first Wii outing is almost here, and it looks great.

Spiffy
Amazing graphics; deep control system; controls add to the experience.

Iffy
Controls might be confusing to novice players initially.

Nintendo's 3D Metroid series is nearly over. The final chapter in the trilogy is hitting the Wii in late August, and we've just spent the last hour of our first day of the show playing the hell out of it. All indications are that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption will be the best of the three games by far. Retro Studios has been hard at work developing the game and it's really showing just how much effort has been put in.


There's been a lot of thought put into how the Wii's unique control system should function. For the most part, all of the additions are hugely beneficial to the overall ambience and atmosphere of the already exciting 3D Metroid universe. The idea here is that Retro is trying to get the gamer to think of the nunchuk and remote as substitutes for Samus' arms/weapons. All of the original features from the series are here. From the get go, you'll have your Arm Cannon, Morph Ball -- complete with bombs -- and your Varia Duit double-jump.


The remote allows you to move your target reticule by pointing at the screen and to further move your field of vision by physically moving the remote left, right, up and down. Couple this with traditional character movement which is performed with the nunchuk's analog stick and you've got a set of pretty powerful first-person controls which certainly haven't been seen on a home console before.

After a little while, we were able to deftly move run Samus around, while strafing, jumping and shooting like a pro. Adjusting the sensitivity of the controls improved things even further when we tweaked the level from normal to expert -- this essentially made all movement much more twitchy, excellent for veteran FPS gamers.


We dove into the initial level of the game, which as expected served as a tutorial experience. Unlike the previous two games, you actually get to start the game inside the cockpit of Samus' bounty hunter spacecraft. It's a neat touch and adds a new level of coolness to the Metroid experience. Introducing the player to Samus' weapons involved checking out the scan visor, lock-on targeting system and basic charge-firing of the arm cannon. Getting past the first security door meant we had to scan, lock on and fire at four door-release clasps. This basic action provides the rudimentary basics for all combat in the game.

A loose attempt to explain the plot in the game sees Samus getting involved with a council of other bounty hunters in order to protect a planet from an impending space pirate attack. Her nemesis Dark Samus is all set to make an evil comeback but the real twist here is that our heroine has been exposed to high levels of Phazon which is coursing through her veins. This power can be used to enter a "hyper" mode meaning that Samus does more damage in combat and is more powerful overall, but this comes at a price. Stay hyped up for too long and you'll be corrupted -- hence the title of the game.

We made our way to an initial meeting of the council of bounty hunters, only to find that the space station we were docked at came under heavy attack by space pirates before we'd really gotten a grasp of the larger picture. After some smaller encounters and strafing victories, we'd already picked up two energy tanks, a missile upgrade and a full level map detailing points of interest.

Not too long after the attack, we'd figured out that we needed to head back to our spacecraft in order to get down to the planet's surface and kick some serious pirate ass. Before we got the hangar, it was boss time -- a large bipedal Phazon monster that scanned as Berserker Lord stood in our way. It was a tough, long, drawn-out fight, but the key was nimble reactions, dodging and a healthy dose of well-placed charge beam shots and missiles. After felling the beast, we boarded the craft and hit the gas towards the planet's surface.


No sooner had we landed than the action began all over again. Tons of pirates poured from the sky in drop ships and assaulted us, but we fought valiantly and won the battle. Or so it seemed. Out of nowhere, we suddenly became pinned down by upgraded flying units that were bent on wiping us out. Just when everything looked like it was over, a fellow bounty hunter swooped in and wasted the ambushers. It was a pretty intense moment.

Our time with the demo had come to an end. We'd acquired the sweet grapple lasso upgrade which let us yank debris from critical paths in our way and also let us disarm shield-wielding foes too. All this and we'd barely scratched the surface of the game. There's so much to be excited about, not least the excellent controls and silky smooth graphics, and we're convinced that when the final game releases later in August we'll be looking at the best addition to the series so far. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is bringing Nintendo's A game to consumers so be prepared for something very special, very soon.

In estrema sintesi: controlli, reparto grafico e storia a livelli superbi.
Aggiorna Lins, aggiorna.

P.S. ennesimo incredibile video (non ricordo se già postato): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlKtEgy95-I

[Lins]

Aggiorno aggiorno, ma telefona a tutti i tester e digli di fermarsi di fare questi commenti altrimenti inizieranno a dire che nintendo li ha pagati

[Max(IT)]

Originariamente inviato da nekromantik

P.S. ennesimo incredibile video (non ricordo se già postato): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlKtEgy95-I

ormai qui siamo ai livelli delle press release Nintendo.
Cos' avrebbe di "incredibile" quel video ?!?
Il Title Screen con un filmatino di modesta fattura tra l' altro.

[Graphite_eleven]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

ormai qui siamo ai livelli delle press release Nintendo.
Cos' avrebbe di "incredibile" quel video ?!?
Il Title Screen con un filmatino di modesta fattura tra l' altro.

Non sono d'accordo, è solo un title screen ma secondo il mio parere è fatto molto bene. Semplice ma evocativo, soprattutto grazie alla musica. Qualche perplessità ce l'ho sul logo scelto per la scritta "Corruption", poco coerente con lo stile delle altre...soprattutto a confronto con "Metroid", ma per il resto non lo trovo certo di modesta fattura. E' un title screen alla fine.

[bronzodiriace]

Originariamente inviato da Max(IT)

ormai qui siamo ai livelli delle press release Nintendo.
Cos' avrebbe di "incredibile" quel video ?!?
Il Title Screen con un filmatino di modesta fattura tra l' altro.

ma a te non ti va bene nulla che sia Nintendo?
SI i vari commenti di gente che ha "provato" sono stipendiati dalla Nintendo.

Ah guarda che a Londra, ho provato anche io Metroid.

[bronzodiriace]

il title screen, la musica, l'emozione che offre
è MAGNIFICA.

[Graphite_eleven]

Originariamente inviato da bronzodiriace

ma a te non ti va bene nulla che sia Nintendo?
SI i vari commenti di gente che ha "provato" sono stipendiati dalla Nintendo.

Ah guarda che a Londra, ho provato anche io Metroid.

Eri all'evento del 15 settembre a Londra? Ai tempi volevo trovare qualche modo di imbucarmi per curiosità ma ci rinunciai.