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Alternative a Nero con Yamaha F1 e AMQR
Spero che sia la sez giusta ( ero in dubbio con quella software.)
Insomma cerco un programma di masterizzazione che supporti l'Audio Maser Quality Redord dello F1 e che , ovviamente , non sia Nero. Qualcuno ne conosce?? grassie PS non vorrei che lo yami mi stesse lasciando ![]() Ciaozzz
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Se mi ricordo bene Feurio supporta questa funzione. Perchè pensi che il tuo yamaha ti stia lasciando?
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In sti gg sto aggiornando il pc , attacca qui stacca là ecc ecc ho storto un pin dell'ide dello yamaha... cioè non staccato..solo storto... l'ho messo dritto e il cavo si attacca normalmente..però ora mi sta dando qualche problema con i cd audio...non riesco a farli con il AMQR. questo è il log che viene scritto normalmente ( cioè l'errore più comune che sto riscontrando in sti gg ) Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 10.03.20 ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Programmi\ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 19.18.06 Versione Nero: 6.3.0.2 Masterizzatore: <YAMAHA CRW-F1E> Versione: 1.0g - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.3.0.2 Driver Adattatore: <atapi> HA 0 Drive buffer : 8192kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI CD-ROM: <JLMS XJ-HD166S >Versione: DS1A - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2 Driver Adattatore: <atapi> HA 0 === Scsi-Device-Map === CdRomPeripheral : JLMS XJ-HD166S atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : YAMAHA CRW-F1E atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW IDE1004 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y120M0 YAR5 si3112r Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === JLMS XJ-HD166S E: CDRom0 YAMAHA CRW-F1E F: CDRom1 DVDRW IDE1004 G: CDRom2 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B H: CDRom3 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: CmdQueuing : 1 CmdNotification: 2 WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 EraseSpeed : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB) Free physical memory: 430MB (441280kB) Memory in use : 57 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Static Write Speed Table: 0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 25.1.2004 CD-Audio 12.11.18 #1 CDADOC -1 File Cdadoc.cpp, Line 1508 Audio item log info: Audio document burn settings: ============================= Burn mode: DAO, CD Text: Off, Cache disk or network files: No, Cache small files: No, Cache files smaller than 65536 bytes. Audio Multisession: No List of audio tracks: ===================== Track 01: Length: 03:36.02, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '01.Making_Music.wav'. Track 02: Length: 03:44.56, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '02.Mixed_Up_World.wav'. Track 03: Length: 03:40.31, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '03.I_Wont_Change_You.wav'. Track 04: Length: 04:52.48, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '04.Nowhere_Without_You.wav'. Track 05: Length: 03:19.72, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '05.Another_Day.wav'. Track 06: Length: 03:34.17, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '06.Party_In_My_Head.wav'. Track 07: Length: 03:28.65, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '07.Love_It_Is_Love.wav'. Track 08: Length: 03:58.54, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '08.You_Get_Yours.wav'. Track 09: Length: 04:23.21, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '09.The_Walls_Keep_Saying_Your_Name.wav'. Track 10: Length: 03:59.11, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '10.I_Wont_Dance_Without_You.wav'. Track 11: Length: 03:33.00, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '11.I_Am_Not_Good_At_Not_Getting_What_I_Want.wav'. Track 12: Length: 13:15.71, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 2, Name: '12_Hello_Hello.wav'. Total size: 55:50.73 12.11.18 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118 Reader running 12.11.18 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124 Writer YAMAHA CRW-F1E running 12.11.18 #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101 Turn on Audio Master Q.R., using CD-R/RW media 12.11.18 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240 Last possible write address on media: 305849 ( 67:59.74) Last address to be written: 251172 ( 55:50.72) 12.11.18 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245 Write in overburning mode: FALSE 12.11.18 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085 Recorder: YAMAHA CRW-F1E; CDR code: 00 97 44 24; CD manufacturer unknown ATIP Data: Special Info [hex] 1: D0 00 A0, 2: 61 18 1A (LI 97:24.26), 3: 4F 3B 4A (LO 79:59.74) Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 00 (invalid), 2: 00 00 00 (invalid), 3: 00 00 00 (invalid) 12.11.18 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 12.11.18 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (01.Making_Music.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16202 (16202) = #16202/3:36.2 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16202 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 1: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (02.Mixed_Up_World.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16856 (16856) = #16856/3:44.56 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16856 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 2: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (03.I_Wont_Change_You.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16531 (16531) = #16531/3:40.31 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16531 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 3: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (04.Nowhere_Without_You.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 21948 (21948) = #21948/4:52.48 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 21948 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 4: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (05.Another_Day.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 14997 (14997) = #14997/3:19.72 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 14997 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 5: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (06.Party_In_My_Head.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16067 (16067) = #16067/3:34.17 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16067 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 6: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (07.Love_It_Is_Love.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15665 (15665) = #15665/3:28.65 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15665 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 7: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (08.You_Get_Yours.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 17904 (17904) = #17904/3:58.54 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 17904 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 8: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (09.The_Walls_Keep_Saying_Your_Name.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 19746 (19746) = #19746/4:23.21 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 19746 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 9: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (10.I_Wont_Dance_Without_You.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 17936 (17936) = #17936/3:59.11 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 17936 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 10: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (11.I_Am_Not_Good_At_Not_Getting_What_I_Want.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15975 (15975) = #15975/3:33.0 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15975 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] 11: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (12_Hello_Hello.wav) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 59696 (59696) = #59696/13:15.71 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 59696 blocks [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] -------------------------------------------------------------- 12.11.18 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948 Prepare recorder [YAMAHA CRW-F1E ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 12: 1: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 0 352800 38459904, ISRC "" 2: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 38459904 38812704 78458016, ISRC "" 3: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 78458016 78810816 117691728, ISRC "" 4: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 117691728 118044528 169666224, ISRC "" 5: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 169666224 170019024 205291968, ISRC "" 6: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 205291968 205644768 243434352, ISRC "" 7: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 243434352 243787152 280631232, ISRC "" 8: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 280631232 280984032 323094240, ISRC "" 9: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 323094240 323447040 369889632, ISRC "" 10: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 369889632 370242432 412427904, ISRC "" 11: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 412427904 412780704 450353904, ISRC "" 12: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 450353904 450706704 591111696, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_ -150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x01 -150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 16202 | 2 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 16352 | 2 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 33208 | 3 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 33358 | 3 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 49889 | 4 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 50039 | 4 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 71987 | 5 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 72137 | 5 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 87134 | 6 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 87284 | 6 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 103351 | 7 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 103501 | 7 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 119166 | 8 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 119316 | 8 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 137220 | 9 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 137370 | 9 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 157116 | 10 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 157266 | 10 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 175202 | 11 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 175352 | 11 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 191327 | 12 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x21 191477 | 12 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x21 251173 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x01 12.11.44 #11 Phase 28 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800 Inizio misurazione velocità 12.11.44 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 12.11.44 #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #16352 12.11.44 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 2 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #33358 12.11.44 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 3 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #50039 12.11.44 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 4 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #72137 12.11.44 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 5 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #87284 12.11.44 #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 6 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #103501 12.11.44 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 7 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #119316 12.11.44 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 8 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #137370 12.11.44 #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 9 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #157266 12.11.44 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 10 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #175352 12.11.44 #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 11 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #191477 12.13.51 #24 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115 <YAMAHA CRW-F1E > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 251173 (3D525h), lenght 0 blocks 12.13.51 #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229 all writers idle, stopping conversion 12.13.51 #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658 Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK 12.13.51 #27 Phase 29 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1751 Misurazione velocità effettuata: 31,2x (4.686 KB/s) 12.13.51 #28 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4138 E' possibile scrivere solo a 16x invece che 410x, perché la velocità dei dati di origine è troppo bassa 12.13.51 #29 Phase 65 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800 Inizio scrittura 12.13.51 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 12.13.51 #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #16352 12.13.51 #32 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 2 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #33358 12.13.51 #33 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 3 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #50039 12.13.51 #34 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 4 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #72137 12.13.51 #35 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 5 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #87284 12.13.51 #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 6 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #103501 12.13.51 #37 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 7 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #119316 12.13.51 #38 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 8 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #137370 12.13.51 #39 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 9 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #157266 12.13.51 #40 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 10 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #175352 12.13.51 #41 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264 Verifying disc position of item 11 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #191477 12.13.51 #42 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 14847 StartDAO : CD-Text - Off 12.13.51 #43 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 15007 Turn on <Audio Master Quality Recording> mode 12.13.51 #44 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19451 Set BUFE: supported -> OFF , Optimum Writespeed Control : ON 12.13.51 #45 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 15134 CueData, Len=208 21 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 21 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 21 01 01 00 00 00 02 00 21 02 00 00 00 03 26 02 21 02 01 00 00 03 28 02 21 03 00 00 00 07 18 3a 21 03 01 00 00 07 1a 3a 21 04 00 00 00 0b 07 0e 21 04 01 00 00 0b 09 0e 21 05 00 00 00 10 01 3e 21 05 01 00 00 10 03 3e 21 06 00 00 00 13 17 3b 21 06 01 00 00 13 19 3b 21 07 00 00 00 17 00 01 21 07 01 00 00 17 02 01 21 08 00 00 00 1a 1e 42 21 08 01 00 00 1a 20 42 21 09 00 00 00 1e 1f 2d 21 09 01 00 00 1e 21 2d 21 0a 00 00 00 22 38 42 21 0a 01 00 00 22 3a 42 21 0b 00 00 00 26 3a 02 21 0b 01 00 00 27 00 02 21 0c 00 00 00 2a 21 02 21 0c 01 00 00 2a 23 02 01 aa 01 01 00 37 32 49 12.14.15 #46 Phase 126 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1756 Rilevata migliore velocità di scrittura per il disco 12.14.16 #47 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277 12:14:16.375 - YAMAHA CRW-F1E\H0 T1 : Queue again later 12.14.18 #48 SCSI -1119 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1431 SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x05650000 Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR) HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK) TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND) Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR) Sense Code: 0x09 Sense Qual: 0x00 CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0B 0xB5 0x00 0x00 0x1B 0x00 0x00 0x00 Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0xAC 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x09 0x00 12.14.18 #49 CDR -1119 File Writer.cpp, Line 301 Errore di lettura della traccia successiva 12.14.18 #50 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229 all writers idle, stopping conversion 12.14.18 #51 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223 conversion idle, stopping reader 12.14.18 #52 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658 Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK 12.14.18 #53 Phase 67 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800 Scrittura fallita Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 17/07/2002 9.05.10 File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 1.27.50 (Adapter driver for rec) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) ![]() volevo provare un altro programma... 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Sto provando Feurio 1.67 e sta scrivendo perfettamente a 4x Amqr .... boh si sarà incriccato Nero a sto punto ( fra l'altro l'ho reinstallato da poco... )... meglio così... fiuuu
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io non la puliro' mai con i cd appositi...rischi di strisciarla e poi ciaooooo
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Il cd è dell'Emtec ( ex basf ) ed ha dei pennellini molto soffici ( 4-5 mi pare... ) insomma non è proprio una ciofeca penso ![]() Ciaozzz
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piuttosto prenditi una bomboletta di quelle che spruzzano solo aria così togli la polvere..ma quel cd non mi piace proprio
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