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Old 04-09-2002, 22:23   #1
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cdr atip reader: la qualità dei nostri cd-r

Ciao ragazzi vi posto il Log di quanto analizzato con cdr atip reader 0.92.
La lettura delleinformazioni contenute nell'ATIP l'ho fatta con il masterizzatore Pioneer dvr-A03.
Spero che possa essere di indicazione x qualcuno che come me deve acquistare cd-r; segue log:



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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:14
/// Comment: maxell 74 xl 650

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Hitachi Maxell, Ltd.
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 654.49 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:17
/// Comment: princo 24x 80 min

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Princo Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 7 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:19
/// Comment: Maxell 80XL-S 32x

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Dye Type : Cyanine
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:23
/// Comment: tdk reflex 650mb 16x ty

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Dye Type : Cyanine
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 656.40 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:25
/// Comment: master 700 mb

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Multi Media Masters & Machinary SA
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 6 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 654.49 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:27
/// Comment: skc 650 mW 4

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : SKC Co., Ltd.
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Dye Type : Cyanine
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 658.74 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:29
/// Comment: Verbatim 24x 700 mb Crystal

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : CMC Magnetics Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:31
/// Comment: Pioneer 650mb 8x

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Pioneer Video Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 657.42 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:33
/// Comment: Verbatim Metal azo 16x blu

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:34
/// Comment: Verbatim Colour 16x 700mb

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:36
/// Comment: That's write 80 mb 7mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : GIGASTORAGE CORPORATION
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 7 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:37
/// Comment: Megadata 650 Mb (by Ritek) 5mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Ritek Co.
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 656.69 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:38
/// Comment: Kodak 650Mb Infoguard

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Kodak Japan Limited
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 650.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:39
/// Comment: Princo 650 16x 7mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Princo Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 7 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 657.42 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:41
/// Comment: Verbatim datalife 12x 700mb golden 5mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : CMC Magnetics Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:43
/// Comment: Imation 700mb arancio CMC

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : CMC Magnetics Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:45
/// Comment: Acer 700Mb Gold 5mW B+

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, high Beta category (B+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Acer Media Technology, Inc.
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:46
/// Comment: Memorex black 700mb 4mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Unknow or Illegal Code
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:50
/// Comment: High speed 700Mb 5mW B+

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, high Beta category (B+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Digital Storage Technology Co.,Ltd
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:51
/// Comment: Eurosound (by Lead) 650mn 6mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Lead Data Inc.
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 6 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 658.30 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:54
/// Comment: Skc 900 Mb 16x 4mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Unknow or Illegal Code
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Friday, August 30, 2002, 17:59
/// Comment: Tdk 700 Mb 24x reflex Ultra by TY 4mW A+

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Dye Type : Cyanine
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:23
/// Comment: Philips 32x silverspeed mW 4

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Ritek Co.
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:25
/// Comment: memorex 700 mb 24x by cmc 5mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : CMC Magnetics Corporation
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:26
/// Comment: Traxdata silver 24x B- 5mW

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Digital Storage Technology Co.,Ltd
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:27

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Prodisc Technology Inc.
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 6 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:27
/// Comment: Traxdata Black 700mb 16x C-

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Prodisc Technology Inc.
Recording Characteristics : Short Strategy Type (ex. Phthalocyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 6 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 702.83 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:30
/// Comment: TDK 650 CD RW by Plasmon

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-RW media
Subtype: Standard Speed CD-RW
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Plasmon Data systems Ltd.
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 656.10 Mb
Highest Usable CLV Recording Speed : 4X
Power Multiplication Factor p : 4
Target y value of the Modulation/Power function : 5
Recommended Erase/Write Power Ratio : 3

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:37
/// Comment: CDV 650MB sfondo blu 5mW (ormai introvabili)

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Multi Media Masters & Machinary SA
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Indicative Target Writing Power : 5 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 653.03 Mb

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/// Date: Saturday, August 31, 2002, 19:41
/// Comment: DB Boeder blu top coating guard 650mb

Media : CD-R/RW media
Media : CD-R media
Subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Disc(Matrix) Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
Recording Characteristics : Long Strategy Type (ex. Cyanine type media)
Dye Type : Cyanine
Indicative Target Writing Power : 4 mW
Use : Restricted
Capacity (nominal) : 656.40 Mb

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Old 05-09-2002, 10:08   #2
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Bisogna xò fare attenzione, molti distributori, quasi tutti (traxdata, memorex, verbatim con i media di fascia bassa, maxell, tdk etc) vanno a stock, ossia se il vostro supermercato ne ordina 10.000 e sono di una qualità, il prossimo ordine anche se il cd è lo stesso poò essere di un'altra, tutto dipende dagli stock dei distributori e quindi dal grossista

quindi se acquistiamo un cdr la cui qualità ci soddisfa e questo scompare per un po dagli scaffali x poi riapparire è sempre meglio acquistare 1 solo cd (o cmq pochi) e testarne l'atip prima di prenderne tanti, specialmente se la confezione riporta nuove certificazioni (per es da 24x a 32x o 40x) ma anche e soprattutto se per es i cd che acquistiamo sono in jewel mentre prima erano in slim o spindler etc.
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