Firefox 10.0.2 e siti www.mediaworld.it, www.oneminutesite.it

[techsupportupgrade]

ho un net con ubuntu 10.04 con installato Firefox 10.0.2 e da un paio di mesi non riesco a accedere a siti www.mediaworld.it, www.oneminutesite.it, compraonline.mediaworld.it: qualcuno saprebbe cosa mi sta succedendo. tenendo presente che non li pinga nemmeno

ping www.mediaworld.it
PING www.mediaworld.it (129.35.114.101) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- www.mediaworld.it ping statistics ---
261 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 261530ms

 ping compraonline.mediaworld.it
PING compraonline.mediaworld.it (129.35.114.102) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- compraonline.mediaworld.it ping statistics ---
57 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 56389ms

 ping 129.35.114.102
PING 129.35.114.102 (129.35.114.102) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- 129.35.114.102 ping statistics ---
34 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 33152ms

[Gimli[2BV!2B]]

Io riesco ad aprirli tutti, su Debian con Iceweasel (in soldoni Firefox senza logo) 10.0.2

Confermo che non rispondono nemmeno ai miei ping.

Hai provato a disabilitare temporaneamente tutte le estensioni di Firefox?
Hai provato con un'altro browser, per capire se è colpa di Firefox o c'è lo zampino di qualcos'altro?

[eaman]

Il fatto che non ti rispondano in ICMP non c'entra nulla con HTTP.
Se mai fai un test con wget -d

wget -d www.mediaworld.it
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.13.4 on linux-gnu.

URI encoding = `UTF-8'
--2012-02-24 02:52:26--  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Resolving www.mediaworld.it (www.mediaworld.it)... 129.35.114.101
Caching www.mediaworld.it => 129.35.114.101
Connecting to www.mediaworld.it (www.mediaworld.it)|129.35.114.101|:80... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x0000000000ef3690 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
GET / HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Wget/1.13.4 (linux-gnu)
Accept: */*
Host: www.mediaworld.it
Connection: Keep-Alive

---request end---
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 
---response begin---
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Set-Cookie: ARPT=WJQRQWS10.150.100.100CKOKW; path=/
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:51:19 GMT
Server: IBM_HTTP_Server
Content-Type: text/html
X-Cache: MISS from localhost
X-Cache-Lookup: MISS from localhost:3128
Via: 1.0 localhost (squid/3.1.6)
Connection: close

---response end---
200 OK

Stored cookie www.mediaworld.it -1 (ANY) / <session> <insecure> [expiry none] ARPT WJQRQWS10.150.100.100CKOKW
Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse.
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html.3'

    [ <=>                                  ] 13,707      --.-K/s   in 0.04s   

2012-02-24 02:52:26 (309 KB/s) - `index.html.3' saved [13707]

[techsupportupgrade]

anche con wget debug mode e con add on tutti disattivati.

 wget -d www.mediaworld.it
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu.

--2012-02-24 11:43:45--  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Risoluzione di www.mediaworld.it... 129.35.114.101
Caching www.mediaworld.it => 129.35.114.101
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... Closed fd 3
fallito: Timeout della connessione.
Releasing 0x092e3490 (new refcount 1).
Altro tentativo in corso.

--2012-02-24 11:44:07--  (tentativo: 2)  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Found www.mediaworld.it in host_name_addresses_map (0x92e3490)
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... Closed fd 3
fallito: Timeout della connessione.
Releasing 0x092e3490 (new refcount 1).
Altro tentativo in corso.

--2012-02-24 11:44:30--  (tentativo: 3)  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Found www.mediaworld.it in host_name_addresses_map (0x92e3490)
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... ^C

[corvus ruber]

Originariamente inviato da techsupportupgrade

anche con wget debug mode e con add on tutti disattivati.

 wget -d www.mediaworld.it
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu.

--2012-02-24 11:43:45--  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Risoluzione di www.mediaworld.it... 129.35.114.101
Caching www.mediaworld.it => 129.35.114.101
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... Closed fd 3
fallito: Timeout della connessione.
Releasing 0x092e3490 (new refcount 1).
Altro tentativo in corso.

--2012-02-24 11:44:07--  (tentativo: 2)  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Found www.mediaworld.it in host_name_addresses_map (0x92e3490)
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... Closed fd 3
fallito: Timeout della connessione.
Releasing 0x092e3490 (new refcount 1).
Altro tentativo in corso.

--2012-02-24 11:44:30--  (tentativo: 3)  http://www.mediaworld.it/
Found www.mediaworld.it in host_name_addresses_map (0x92e3490)
Connessione a www.mediaworld.it|129.35.114.101|:80... ^C

Sicuro che non ci sia qualche firewall/proxy scassamaroni di mezzo ?
Hai la possibilità di provare con un'altra connessione, magari di un provider del tutto diverso ?

[reeky]

prova

sudo traceroute -T -p 80 -w 10 129.35.114.101

in modo da vedere dove si ferma la connessione

[techsupportupgrade]

sudo traceroute -T -p 80 -w 10 129.35.114.101
[sudo] password for user: 
traceroute to 129.35.114.101 (129.35.114.101), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * att.mix-it.net (217.29.66.55)  129.142 ms  129.906 ms
 7  32.113.158.6 (32.113.158.6)  132.994 ms  136.045 ms  147.578 ms
 8  * * *
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[reeky]

ma che provider usi?
la cosa strana è che arrivi a 32.113.158.6 (che sembra essere un server americano della at&t) e che incontri troppi server lenti

ad ogni modo non sembra un tuo problema visto che comunque riesci a contattare 2 server esterni alla tua rete.

per curiosità, prova con

sudo traceroute -T -p 80 -w 30 -m 50 129.35.114.101

in modo da aumentare a 30 secondi il tempo di attesa di una risposta dal server e a 50 il numero di server attraverso cui passi

[techsupportupgrade]

da non esperto è sembrato strano anche a me
ora ho trovato questa cosa strana: chi caspita è 192.168.101.21 il mio provider è linkem (wimax), essendo su microonde ha latenza superiore, (in media i ping sono tra 60 e 80ms) ma il resto.

sudo traceroute -T -p 80 -w 30 -m 50 129.35.114.101
traceroute to 129.35.114.101 (129.35.114.101), 50 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  4.650 ms  18.797 ms  32.559 ms
 2  * * *
 3  192.168.101.21 (192.168.101.21)  159.770 ms  162.669 ms  190.360 ms
 4  84.233.197.81 (84.233.197.81)  212.259 ms  218.376 ms  218.793 ms
 5  ae3-0.mil-cal-score-1-re0.interoute.net (89.202.146.161)  225.031 ms  267.917 ms  263.142 ms
 6  att.mix-it.net (217.29.66.55)  268.681 ms  89.179 ms  118.489 ms
 7  32.113.158.6 (32.113.158.6)  120.779 ms  141.271 ms  146.236 ms
 8  * * *
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nmap 192.168.101.21 

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-02-24 13:37 CET
Interesting ports on 192.168.101.21:
Not shown: 997 closed ports
PORT   STATE SERVICE
21/tcp open  ftp
22/tcp open  ssh
23/tcp open  telnet

sudo nmap -T4 -A -v -PE -PS22,25,80 -PA21,23,80,3389 192.168.*
[sudo] password for user: 
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for user: 

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-02-24 13:38 CET
NSE: Loaded 30 scripts for scanning.
Invalid target host specification: 192.168.*
QUITTING!
user@user:~$ sudo nmap -T4 -A -v -PE -PS22,25,80 -PA21,23,80,3389 192.168.101.21 
Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-02-24 13:39 CET
NSE: Loaded 30 scripts for scanning.
Initiating Ping Scan at 13:39
Scanning 192.168.101.21 [8 ports]
Completed Ping Scan at 13:39, 0.18s elapsed (1 total hosts)
Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 13:39
Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 13:39, 0.19s elapsed
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 13:39
Scanning 192.168.101.21 [1000 ports]
Discovered open port 23/tcp on 192.168.101.21
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 192.168.101.21
Discovered open port 21/tcp on 192.168.101.21
Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 13:39, 12.61s elapsed (1000 total ports)
Initiating Service scan at 13:39
Scanning 3 services on 192.168.101.21
Service scan Timing: About 66.67% done; ETC: 13:42 (0:01:01 remaining)
Completed Service scan at 13:41, 126.97s elapsed (3 services on 1 host)
Initiating OS detection (try #1) against 192.168.101.21
Retrying OS detection (try #2) against 192.168.101.21
Retrying OS detection (try #3) against 192.168.101.21
Retrying OS detection (try #4) against 192.168.101.21
Retrying OS detection (try #5) against 192.168.101.21
192.168.101.21: guessing hop distance at 2
Initiating Traceroute at 13:41
Completed Traceroute at 13:41, 10.04s elapsed
Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 2 hosts. at 13:41
Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 2 hosts. at 13:41, 0.41s elapsed
NSE: Script scanning 192.168.101.21.
NSE: Starting runlevel 1 scan
Initiating NSE at 13:41
Completed NSE at 13:41, 0.99s elapsed
NSE: Script Scanning completed.
Host 192.168.101.21 is up (0.098s latency).
Interesting ports on 192.168.101.21:
Not shown: 997 closed ports
PORT   STATE SERVICE    VERSION
21/tcp open  ftp?
22/tcp open  tcpwrapped
23/tcp open  telnet?
2 services unrecognized despite returning data. If you know the service/version, please submit the following fingerprints at http://www.insecure.org/cgi-bin/servicefp-submit.cgi :
==============NEXT SERVICE FINGERPRINT (SUBMIT INDIVIDUALLY)==============
SF-Port21-TCP:V=5.00%I=7%D=2/24%Time=4F4784FE%P=i686-pc-linux-gnu%r(NULL,1
SF:8,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(GenericLines,3E,"220\x20FTP
SF:\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x20and
SF:\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(Help,3E,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20
SF:Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x20and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(GetRequest,3E,
SF:"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20
SF:USER\x20and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(HTTPOptions,3E,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20
SF:ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x20and\x20PASS\.\r\n"
SF:)%r(RTSPRequest,3E,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x
SF:20login\x20with\x20USER\x20and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(RPCCheck,18,"220\x20FT
SF:P\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(DNSVersionBindReq,18,"220\x20FTP\x20ser
SF:vice\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(DNSStatusRequest,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20r
SF:eady\.\r\n")%r(SSLSessionReq,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")
SF:%r(SMBProgNeg,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(X11Probe,18,
SF:"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(FourOhFourRequest,3E,"220\x20
SF:FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x20
SF:and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(LPDString,3E,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\
SF:n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x20and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(LDAPBi
SF:ndReq,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(SIPOptions,3E,"220\x
SF:20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n530\x20Please\x20login\x20with\x20USER\x
SF:20and\x20PASS\.\r\n")%r(LANDesk-RC,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.
SF:\r\n")%r(TerminalServer,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(NC
SF:P,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(NotesRPC,18,"220\x20FTP\
SF:x20service\x20ready\.\r\n")%r(WMSRequest,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20r
SF:eady\.\r\n")%r(oracle-tns,18,"220\x20FTP\x20service\x20ready\.\r\n");
==============NEXT SERVICE FINGERPRINT (SUBMIT INDIVIDUALLY)==============
SF-Port23-TCP:V=5.00%I=7%D=2/24%Time=4F4784FE%P=i686-pc-linux-gnu%r(NULL,1
SF:D8,"\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x03\xff\xfd\x18\xff\xf
SF:d\x1f\r\n\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
SF:\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\
SF:*\r\n\*\x20Copyright\x20\(c\)\x201998-2008\x20Huawei\x20Technologies\x2
SF:0Co\.,\x20Ltd\.\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\x20
SF:All\x20rights\x20reserved\.\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
SF:\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x2
SF:0\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\x20Wi
SF:thout\x20the\x20owner's\x20prior\x20written\x20consent,\x20\x20\x20\x20
SF:\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x2
SF:0\*\r\n\*\x20no\x20decompiling\x20or\x20reverse-engineering\x20shall\x2
SF:0be\x20allowed\.\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\*\*\*\*\*\
SF:*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
SF:\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\r\n\r\n\r\nLogin\x20
SF:authentication\r\n\r\n\r\nUsername:")%r(GenericLines,201,"\xff\xfb\x01\
SF:xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x01\xff\xfb\x03\xff\xfd\x18\xff\xfd\x1f\r\n\*\*\*\*
SF:\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\
SF:*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\r\n\*\x20Copyri
SF:ght\x20\(c\)\x201998-2008\x20Huawei\x20Technologies\x20Co\.,\x20Ltd\.\x
SF:20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\x20All\x20rights\x20
SF:reserved\.\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\
SF:x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
SF:\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\x20Without\x20the\x20o
SF:wner's\x20prior\x20written\x20consent,\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\
SF:x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\x20no\x
SF:20decompiling\x20or\x20reverse-engineering\x20shall\x20be\x20allowed\.\
SF:x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\*\r\n\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
SF:\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\
SF:*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\r\n\r\n\r\nLogin\x20authentication\r\
SF:n\r\n\r\nUsername:\r\nPassword:\r\n%\x20Login\x20failed!\r\n\r\nUsernam
SF:e:");
No exact OS matches for host (If you know what OS is running on it, see http://nmap.org/submit/ ).
TCP/IP fingerprint:
OS:SCAN(V=5.00%D=2/24%OT=21%CT=1%CU=39953%PV=Y%DS=2%G=Y%TM=4F478597%P=i686-
OS:pc-linux-gnu)SEQ(SP=104%GCD=1%ISR=10C%CI=I%II=I%TS=U)SEQ(SP=102%GCD=1%IS
OS:R=10C%CI=I%II=I%TS=U)SEQ(SP=107%GCD=1%ISR=10D%TI=I%II=I%SS=S%TS=U)SEQ(SP
OS:=103%GCD=1%ISR=10B%CI=I%II=I%TS=U)SEQ(SP=FD%GCD=1%ISR=10B%CI=I%TS=U)OPS(
OS:O1=M200%O2=M200%O3=M200%O4=M200%O5=M200%O6=M200)WIN(W1=2000%W2=2000%W3=2
OS:000%W4=2000%W5=2000%W6=2000)ECN(R=Y%DF=N%T=FF%W=2000%O=M200%CC=N%Q=)T1(R
OS:=Y%DF=N%T=FF%S=O%A=S+%F=AS%RD=0%Q=)T2(R=N)T3(R=N)T4(R=Y%DF=N%T=FF%W=2000
OS:%S=A%A=Z%F=R%O=%RD=0%Q=)T5(R=Y%DF=N%T=FF%W=0%S=Z%A=S+%F=AR%O=%RD=0%Q=)T6
OS:(R=Y%DF=N%T=FF%W=0%S=A%A=Z%F=R%O=%RD=0%Q=)T7(R=N)U1(R=Y%DF=N%T=FF%IPL=38
OS:%UN=0%RIPL=G%RID=G%RIPCK=G%RUCK=0%RUD=G)IE(R=Y%DFI=S%T=FF%CD=S)

Network Distance: 2 hops
TCP Sequence Prediction: Difficulty=253 (Good luck!)
IP ID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class

TRACEROUTE (using port 21/tcp)
HOP RTT    ADDRESS
1   413.66 192.168.1.1
2   ...
3   642.16 192.168.101.21

Read data files from: /usr/share/nmap
OS and Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ .
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 173.07 seconds
           Raw packets sent: 1157 (55.896KB) | Rcvd: 1890 (99.509KB)

[sacarde]

strano

- firefox con altri siti va?

- un altro browser su quei 2 siti va?

[techsupportupgrade]

anche con chrome non funzionano. ma a voi funzionano?

[sacarde]

si funzionano

- ma sei dietro un proxy ?

- hai attivato la cache nei browser ?

[techsupportupgrade]

per la cache sì, ho provato sia firefox normale con cache abilitata che disattivata e anche in private mode con entrambe le modalità.
che io sappia non c'è un proxy, la rete dell'isp è nattata, mi pare, ma dovrebbe comunque connettere i siti indicati.

[sacarde]

cel'hai un cdlive per fare una prova da li' ?

[techsupportupgrade]

prova sia da live cd di parted magic con firefox che da nuova installazione di firefox 3.6 ma nisba. come posso verificare se ci sono blocchi del firewall?

[sacarde]

se lo fa anche da cdlive... non dovrebbe averci firewall attivo


se passi da un router, provato a riavviarlo?

[techsupportupgrade]

già provato sia riavviando che disattivando il firewall o abbassando il livello di sicurezza del firewall del router. ma niente lo stesso.

[omerook]

prova a cambiare i server dns!

[Hal2001]

Già provato con altri server dns? A primo acchitto sembra quello il problema.
Fai una prova con quelli google (8.8.8.8) e opendns (208.67.222.222).

[jeremy.83]

Anche a me sembra un problema di dns. Avevo lo stesso problema sul sito apple tempo fa.

Comunque se vedi che proprio non riesci a navigare dentro quei siti aggiungi a /etc/hosts gli indirizzi numerici, magari così risolvi

Quando ho avuto quel problema col sito apple non c'entrava nulla l'os, me lo faceva ancyhe da win, android, ecc. Per inciso, io ho fastweb