Fidel Castro e' morto? : Spanish Radio said to have reported Castro dead

dantes76 · 13-12-2006, 23:00

fidel castro Is Dead? (Updated)

Been getting quite a bit of traffic via searches with "castro death" and "is castro dead" and "castro death rumors" the past couple of days so I thought I'd go ahead and clear that whole mess up right now.

Barring any unforeseen actions such as, say, breathing, for all intents and purposes, fidel castro is dead. And, should the case be that he is, in fact, still breathing, chances are that it's only a "little" breathing or a clever rendition of the act of breathing and not real breathing in the real breathing scientific term of real breathing. There have been, however, unconfirmed reports of fidel castro actually breathing, but all have come with the caveat "he is breathing, but he's certainly not inhaling."

Thus, since fidel castro is not inhaling we can only come to two conclusions: he is either dead or he is, in fact, Bill Clinton. That latter notion is under investigation as not only are "both" men known for not inhaling, but for a particular fondness for long Cuban cigars, which are not necessarily meant for inhaling.

In summary, the rumors of fidel castro's actual demise may be premature at this moment, but reports of his lack of inhalation have some skeptics convinced that he is in fact, technically not breathing in a respiratory sense, which leads this writer to conclude that yes, fidel castro is in fact, at least, respiratorily dead.

There are, however, rumors abounding that ADIDAS is secretly redesigning the Bionic Track Suit to not only control motor reactor functions to certain appendages, but to also simulate breathing with an added plus of inhalation where Oxygen (O2) is taken in and carbon-dioxide (CO2) is exhaled, thus aiding the photosynthetic process of genetically altered tobacco plants (Cuban seed, of course) which will be planted along the hems of the garment. There is no word as yet as to how ADIDAS plans to handle the Bionic Track Suit Tobacco harvesting and cigar rolling.

Batteries, however, will be included.

UPDATE: Just a few words of caution to all those visiting us anticipating news of the Cuban dictator's demise: Dont bust out the champagne until it's made official. Even if castro swims with the fishes as we speak, until there's an official Cuban Government announcement we will not know with absolute certainty. This doesnt mean, though, that you cant start celebrating right now.

UPDATE II: While we all wait for official confirmation - which will only come when the Cuban government is good and ready - please take a minute or two to find out more about Cuba and the Independent Journalists incarcerated therein:

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/004377.html

Mami herald
Posted on Wed, Dec. 13, 2006
EMERGENCY PLANNING
When Castro dies, they know the drill
The Broward Convention Center became a command center for local, state and federal response to the death of Fidel Castro and how authorities here will react.
BY OSCAR CORRAL
[email protected]

Picture this: Cuban leader Fidel Castro dies, Cuba's military battles protesters on the streets, and frantic Cubans take to the seas. In South Florida, exiles board boats and head for Cuba to pick up desperate relatives -- or to help start an armed insurrection against the 47-year-old dictatorship.

The Florida Straits get jammed with boat traffic on choppy seas. People drown. Chaos erupts.

The U.S. government believes this could happen. On Tuesday federal, state and local authorities accelerated preparations for Castro's death -- starting a two-day drill on how authorities plan to respond to a mass exodus to Florida.

As 400 emergency officials and others held the tabletop exercise at the Broward County Convention Center, Miami police sent an e-mail to reporters Tuesday afternoon warning of unsubstantiated rumors about Castro's ''possible death,'' and even Gov. Jeb Bush was alerted about the buzz in South Florida.

MORE SPECULATION

Castro's absence at a military parade Dec. 2 in Havana to mark his 80th birthday has stoked the rumors -- just as U.S. officials mulled over scenarios to prepare for a change on the communist island.

Journalists in Havana said Tuesday that the rumors of Castro's death were rampant there as well, but that no unusual activity or military presence was noted in the streets. The U.S. Interests Section said there were no new reports on Castro's health.

At the command post exercise, Amos Rojas Jr., South Florida regional director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, said authorities want the public to respond with calm when Castro dies and stay off the streets -- and seas.

'The message we want to send is, `Do not throw yourself to the waters and try to head to Cuba,' '' Rojas told reporters in Spanish. ``Be patient, the trip is very dangerous.''

In one scenario, Raúl Castro would authorize ''use of force to quell opposition'' to his government once his brother Fidel dies. ''Demonstrations in Cuba are met with open force causing injuries and deaths to civilians,'' a one-page scenario stated. 'U.S.-based Cuban resistance groups have begun issuing inflated and false press releases describing the dire actions in Cuba. These groups are advocating the violent overthrow of the Raúl Castro regime to `liberate Cuba forever.' ''

``Some local Cuban-Americans began arming themselves and heading to Cuba to either fight for the [country's] liberation, or to bring back family members to the United States.''

Among the real options on the table Tuesday: closing all marinas in South Florida; shutting down airports; even limiting fuel sales.

U.S. Border Patrol could monitor traffic on roads leading to marinas, stopping drivers hauling boats with extra gasoline and provisions for a days-long trip, said spokesman Steve McDonald.

U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Chris O'Neil said authorities will monitor for key indicators coming from the island, including an uptick in raft-building, Cubans en masse heading for the beaches and a spike in migrants in the Florida Straits and off the eastern tip of Cuba.

Key to the intelligence gathering are the Miami police Strategic Information Unit and the local FBI's Cuba squad, which are participating in the drill.

WORST-CASE SCENARIOS

About 400 officials and emergency workers -- including the Department of Homeland Security, Coast Guard, and police departments in Coral Springs and Broward, Monroe and Miami-Dade counties -- dealt with worst-case scenarios, seeking to expose any gaps in the plan.

There were staffing concerns -- like a dearth of Spanish-speaking agents -- and communication glitches.

In one scenario, a child injured at sea and brought aboard a Coast Guard cutter needed to be airlifted to the mainland. Precious minutes passed as officers in the command center tried to determine whether to call the Key West or Miami Coast Guard office.

In another example, two boats with about 25 people landed in Pompano Beach and a dozen showed signs of the measles, so healthcare workers scrambled to determine the best way to transport and quarantine the migrants -- without exposing others.

''This is a run-through to see what holds water and what doesn't work. The goal is to be as realistic as possible,'' O'Neil said.

This week's drill will be evaluated, with corrections made, and then another run-through -- using boats, planes and emergency personnel -- is scheduled for March 7 and 8, unless conditions change on the island.

''In the military, you always plan for the worst-case scenario,'' said James Brooks, spokesman for the Naval Air Station in Key West. Zachary Mann, Special Agent for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the goal is to prevent chaos and save lives. ``What we're trying to do is discourage the illegal migration -- it's extremely dangerous.''

Miami Herald staff writers Erika Beras, Gary Fineout and Frances Robles contributed to this report.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16226320.htm

SquallSed · 13-12-2006, 23:05

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Fratello Cadfael · 13-12-2006, 23:20

Se è vero (ma anche se non è vero è un evento probabilmente prossimo) si apriranno nuovi scenari nei quali per i Cubani c'è tutto da guadagnare.
Se non altro Cuba non sarà più tenuta all'angolo dagli USA e un po' di democrazia e di benessere arriveranno.

*sasha ITALIA* · 13-12-2006, 23:23

mah, probabile sia morto... comunque spero in una forma di democrazia VERA (non quella scadente recentemente esportata in giro per il mondo a forza) voluta dallo stesso popolo Cubano.

Solertes · 13-12-2006, 23:24

Se fosse vero, è una dittatura in meno....grazie a Dio.....ma presumo che una bandiera avrà una stella in più, la brama da troppo tempo.

*sasha ITALIA* · 13-12-2006, 23:25

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da Solertes

Se fosse vero, è una dittatura in meno....grazie a Dio.....ma presumo che una bandiera avrà una stella in più, la brama da troppo tempo.

Anche se così fosse, ben venga per loro...

Brand · 14-12-2006, 00:06

Aò ma ch'è i dittatori stanno col numeretto?

Solertes · 14-12-2006, 00:35

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da *sasha ITALIA*

Anche se così fosse, ben venga per loro...

Io gli auguro di poter scegliere se essere annessi o rimanere uno stato sovrano, ma tra le due io opterei per la seconda....

*sasha ITALIA* · 14-12-2006, 00:41

dipende sempre da chi troveranno come successore... divenire uno stato americano vorrebbe dire essere tutelati da una costituzione, avere diritti civili ed avere accesso al mercato libero.. peccato per l'istruzione e la sanità ..

comunque non credo che accadrà. IMHO le ipotesi sono:

1) Viene nominato un successore e la dittatura ed embargo continuano;

2) Viene nominato un successore ma il popolo si ribella, nasce una guerra civile;

3) Si crea un vuoto di potere, Cuba si trova nel caos e scoppia una guerra civile che porta ad un nuovo governo di stampo militare;

4) Cuba si trova nel caos, gli Stati Uniti intervengono, instaurano un governo a loro favorevole e se ne vanno.

FabioGreggio · 14-12-2006, 07:17

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da Solertes

Se fosse vero, è una dittatura in meno....grazie a Dio.....ma presumo che una bandiera avrà una stella in più, la brama da troppo tempo.

Una dittatura in meno è certo. Che chi acquisisce sia democratico non lo credo.
Abbiamo una visione della democrazia statunitense curiosa.

Pensa se fosse stato Castro a volersi annettere, chessò, la Florida, che fomenti un golpe in Cile, che occupi unilateralmente le Grenadinas per interesse e che esporti la guerra in Iraq con una scusa panzana, e solo perchè là c'è il petrolio.

Vista da questa angolazione Cuba sarebbe un covo di sporchi comunisti imperialisti.

Ma è il contrario e quindi è tutto a posto.

fg

sider · 14-12-2006, 07:17

Non credo che entrare negli USA sia un vantaggio, per loro. Anzi, ne sono sicuro.

FabioGreggio · 14-12-2006, 07:20

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da *sasha ITALIA*

dipende sempre da chi troveranno come successore... divenire uno stato americano vorrebbe dire essere tutelati da una costituzione, avere diritti civili ed avere accesso al mercato libero.. peccato per l'istruzione e la sanità ..

comunque non credo che accadrà. IMHO le ipotesi sono:

1) Viene nominato un successore e la dittatura ed embargo continuano;

2) Viene nominato un successore ma il popolo si ribella, nasce una guerra civile;

3) Si crea un vuoto di potere, Cuba si trova nel caos e scoppia una guerra civile che porta ad un nuovo governo di stampo militare;

4) Cuba si trova nel caos, gli Stati Uniti intervengono, instaurano un governo a loro favorevole e se ne vanno.

Mischierei la seconda e la quarta.
Chiunque venga eletto gli USA fomenteranno dirordini e l'ONU acconsentirà che gli USA intervengano "pacificando l'area".

Poi sarà la volta del Venezuela.

fg

FabioGreggio · 14-12-2006, 07:21

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da sider

Non credo che entrare negli USA sia un vantaggio, per loro. Anzi, ne sono sicuro.

Ma è un vantaggio per gli Usa che essi vi entrano.
Il resto è irrilevante.

fg

nevione · 14-12-2006, 07:30

ma qualcuno si ricorda che un successore c'e' gia' e di nome fa raul e di cognome castro?

fsdfdsddijsdfsdfo · 14-12-2006, 07:59

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da nevione

ma qualcuno si ricorda che un successore c'e' gia' e di nome fa raul e di cognome castro?

troppo compromesso con i traffici di armi e droga. Non l'hanno ancora ucciso solo perchè c'era il fratello a difenderlo.

O tira fuori una quantità incredibile di palle, o lo tolgono dalla scena.

Insert coin · 14-12-2006, 08:14

Io dico una sola cosa:

Fidel Castro avrebbe di che insegnare ad Andreotti su come si resta ininterrottamente al potere per ben 47 anni consecutivi....

sider · 14-12-2006, 08:16

Comunque non trovo nulla su castro, mi da di bufala

lowenz · 14-12-2006, 08:23

Nell'ipotesi che la notizia sia vera una dittatura in meno.....ma spero non un futuro lupanare statunitense in più come era ai tempi di Batista (che non è che fosse poi tanto diverso da un dittatore.....pure lui era avvezzo ai colpi di stato.....).

nevione · 14-12-2006, 08:32

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da lowenz

Nell'ipotesi che la notizia sia vera una dittatura in meno.....ma spero non un futuro lupanare statunitense in più come era ai tempi di Batista (che non è che fosse poi tanto diverso da un dittatore.....pure lui era avvezzo ai colpi di stato.....).

Batista era un dittatore

lowenz · 14-12-2006, 08:37

Quote:

Originariamente inviato da nevione

Batista era un dittatore

La prima volta (1940) che venne eletto no.
La volta in cui non venne eletto e fece il (secondo, dato che aveva già partecipato ad un altro nel '33) colpo di stato sì (1952).

Insomma, Batista batte Castro per 2 colpi di stato a 1

-> http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

13-12-2006, 23:00	#1
dantes76 Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 2002 Città: AnTuDo ---------- Messaggi Totali: 10196 Messaggi: 1527	Fidel Castro e' morto? : Spanish Radio said to have reported Castro dead fidel castro Is Dead? (Updated) Been getting quite a bit of traffic via searches with "castro death" and "is castro dead" and "castro death rumors" the past couple of days so I thought I'd go ahead and clear that whole mess up right now. Barring any unforeseen actions such as, say, breathing, for all intents and purposes, fidel castro is dead. And, should the case be that he is, in fact, still breathing, chances are that it's only a "little" breathing or a clever rendition of the act of breathing and not real breathing in the real breathing scientific term of real breathing. There have been, however, unconfirmed reports of fidel castro actually breathing, but all have come with the caveat "he is breathing, but he's certainly not inhaling." Thus, since fidel castro is not inhaling we can only come to two conclusions: he is either dead or he is, in fact, Bill Clinton. That latter notion is under investigation as not only are "both" men known for not inhaling, but for a particular fondness for long Cuban cigars, which are not necessarily meant for inhaling. In summary, the rumors of fidel castro's actual demise may be premature at this moment, but reports of his lack of inhalation have some skeptics convinced that he is in fact, technically not breathing in a respiratory sense, which leads this writer to conclude that yes, fidel castro is in fact, at least, respiratorily dead. There are, however, rumors abounding that ADIDAS is secretly redesigning the Bionic Track Suit to not only control motor reactor functions to certain appendages, but to also simulate breathing with an added plus of inhalation where Oxygen (O2) is taken in and carbon-dioxide (CO2) is exhaled, thus aiding the photosynthetic process of genetically altered tobacco plants (Cuban seed, of course) which will be planted along the hems of the garment. There is no word as yet as to how ADIDAS plans to handle the Bionic Track Suit Tobacco harvesting and cigar rolling. Batteries, however, will be included. UPDATE: Just a few words of caution to all those visiting us anticipating news of the Cuban dictator's demise: Dont bust out the champagne until it's made official. Even if castro swims with the fishes as we speak, until there's an official Cuban Government announcement we will not know with absolute certainty. This doesnt mean, though, that you cant start celebrating right now. UPDATE II: While we all wait for official confirmation - which will only come when the Cuban government is good and ready - please take a minute or two to find out more about Cuba and the Independent Journalists incarcerated therein: http://www.babalublog.com/archives/004377.html Mami herald Posted on Wed, Dec. 13, 2006 EMERGENCY PLANNING When Castro dies, they know the drill The Broward Convention Center became a command center for local, state and federal response to the death of Fidel Castro and how authorities here will react. BY OSCAR CORRAL [email protected] Picture this: Cuban leader Fidel Castro dies, Cuba's military battles protesters on the streets, and frantic Cubans take to the seas. In South Florida, exiles board boats and head for Cuba to pick up desperate relatives -- or to help start an armed insurrection against the 47-year-old dictatorship. The Florida Straits get jammed with boat traffic on choppy seas. People drown. Chaos erupts. The U.S. government believes this could happen. On Tuesday federal, state and local authorities accelerated preparations for Castro's death -- starting a two-day drill on how authorities plan to respond to a mass exodus to Florida. As 400 emergency officials and others held the tabletop exercise at the Broward County Convention Center, Miami police sent an e-mail to reporters Tuesday afternoon warning of unsubstantiated rumors about Castro's ''possible death,'' and even Gov. Jeb Bush was alerted about the buzz in South Florida. MORE SPECULATION Castro's absence at a military parade Dec. 2 in Havana to mark his 80th birthday has stoked the rumors -- just as U.S. officials mulled over scenarios to prepare for a change on the communist island. Journalists in Havana said Tuesday that the rumors of Castro's death were rampant there as well, but that no unusual activity or military presence was noted in the streets. The U.S. Interests Section said there were no new reports on Castro's health. At the command post exercise, Amos Rojas Jr., South Florida regional director of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, said authorities want the public to respond with calm when Castro dies and stay off the streets -- and seas. 'The message we want to send is, `Do not throw yourself to the waters and try to head to Cuba,' '' Rojas told reporters in Spanish. ``Be patient, the trip is very dangerous.'' In one scenario, Raúl Castro would authorize ''use of force to quell opposition'' to his government once his brother Fidel dies. ''Demonstrations in Cuba are met with open force causing injuries and deaths to civilians,'' a one-page scenario stated. 'U.S.-based Cuban resistance groups have begun issuing inflated and false press releases describing the dire actions in Cuba. These groups are advocating the violent overthrow of the Raúl Castro regime to `liberate Cuba forever.' '' ``Some local Cuban-Americans began arming themselves and heading to Cuba to either fight for the [country's] liberation, or to bring back family members to the United States.'' Among the real options on the table Tuesday: closing all marinas in South Florida; shutting down airports; even limiting fuel sales. U.S. Border Patrol could monitor traffic on roads leading to marinas, stopping drivers hauling boats with extra gasoline and provisions for a days-long trip, said spokesman Steve McDonald. U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Chris O'Neil said authorities will monitor for key indicators coming from the island, including an uptick in raft-building, Cubans en masse heading for the beaches and a spike in migrants in the Florida Straits and off the eastern tip of Cuba. Key to the intelligence gathering are the Miami police Strategic Information Unit and the local FBI's Cuba squad, which are participating in the drill. WORST-CASE SCENARIOS About 400 officials and emergency workers -- including the Department of Homeland Security, Coast Guard, and police departments in Coral Springs and Broward, Monroe and Miami-Dade counties -- dealt with worst-case scenarios, seeking to expose any gaps in the plan. There were staffing concerns -- like a dearth of Spanish-speaking agents -- and communication glitches. In one scenario, a child injured at sea and brought aboard a Coast Guard cutter needed to be airlifted to the mainland. Precious minutes passed as officers in the command center tried to determine whether to call the Key West or Miami Coast Guard office. In another example, two boats with about 25 people landed in Pompano Beach and a dozen showed signs of the measles, so healthcare workers scrambled to determine the best way to transport and quarantine the migrants -- without exposing others. ''This is a run-through to see what holds water and what doesn't work. The goal is to be as realistic as possible,'' O'Neil said. This week's drill will be evaluated, with corrections made, and then another run-through -- using boats, planes and emergency personnel -- is scheduled for March 7 and 8, unless conditions change on the island. ''In the military, you always plan for the worst-case scenario,'' said James Brooks, spokesman for the Naval Air Station in Key West. Zachary Mann, Special Agent for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the goal is to prevent chaos and save lives. ``What we're trying to do is discourage the illegal migration -- it's extremely dangerous.'' Miami Herald staff writers Erika Beras, Gary Fineout and Frances Robles contributed to this report. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16226320.htm __________________ “ Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus”-המעז מנצח -

13-12-2006, 23:05	#2
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13-12-2006, 23:20	#3
Fratello Cadfael Member Iscritto dal: Jan 2003 Città: Roma Status:Coglione Messaggi: 134	Se è vero (ma anche se non è vero è un evento probabilmente prossimo) si apriranno nuovi scenari nei quali per i Cubani c'è tutto da guadagnare. Se non altro Cuba non sarà più tenuta all'angolo dagli USA e un po' di democrazia e di benessere arriveranno. __________________ La mia firma aveva un senso quando la maggior parte dei miei post erano nelle sezioni OT. Ora ne dovrei pensare un'altra. Comunque me la sono messa da una parte con la speranza di poterla ripristinare...

13-12-2006, 23:24	#5
Solertes Senior Member Iscritto dal: Sep 2001 Città: Sardinia - TrollKillah user Messaggi: 3773	Se fosse vero, è una dittatura in meno....grazie a Dio.....ma presumo che una bandiera avrà una stella in più, la brama da troppo tempo. __________________ "Il silenzio è la più perfetta espressione del disprezzo." - « Tancas serradas a muru Fattas a s'afferra afferra Si su chelu fit in terra L'aiant serradu puru » - vedere avvinazzati darsi arie da sommelier non ha prezzo -

14-12-2006, 00:06	#7
Brand Utente sospeso Iscritto dal: Aug 2006 Città: Napoli Messaggi: 282	Aò ma ch'è i dittatori stanno col numeretto? __________________ --- era troppo lunga --- o grossa?

13-12-2006, 23:23	#4
sasha ITALIA Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jun 2004 Città: BOLZANO/BOZEN Messaggi: 14872	mah, probabile sia morto... comunque spero in una forma di democrazia VERA (non quella scadente recentemente esportata in giro per il mondo a forza) voluta dallo stesso popolo Cubano.

14-12-2006, 00:41	#9
sasha ITALIA Senior Member Iscritto dal: Jun 2004 Città: BOLZANO/BOZEN Messaggi: 14872	dipende sempre da chi troveranno come successore... divenire uno stato americano vorrebbe dire essere tutelati da una costituzione, avere diritti civili ed avere accesso al mercato libero.. peccato per l'istruzione e la sanità .. comunque non credo che accadrà. IMHO le ipotesi sono: 1) Viene nominato un successore e la dittatura ed embargo continuano; 2) Viene nominato un successore ma il popolo si ribella, nasce una guerra civile; 3) Si crea un vuoto di potere, Cuba si trova nel caos e scoppia una guerra civile che porta ad un nuovo governo di stampo militare; 4) Cuba si trova nel caos, gli Stati Uniti intervengono, instaurano un governo a loro favorevole e se ne vanno.

14-12-2006, 07:17	#11
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14-12-2006, 07:30	#14
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14-12-2006, 08:16	#17
sider Bannato Iscritto dal: Sep 2001 Messaggi: 3918	Comunque non trovo nulla su castro, mi da di bufala

14-12-2006, 08:23	#18
lowenz Bannato Iscritto dal: Aug 2001 Città: Berghem Haven Messaggi: 13537	Nell'ipotesi che la notizia sia vera una dittatura in meno.....ma spero non un futuro lupanare statunitense in più come era ai tempi di Batista (che non è che fosse poi tanto diverso da un dittatore.....pure lui era avvezzo ai colpi di stato.....).

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