1 MILIARDO DI TRANSISTOR E' IL FUTURO DI ATI E NVIDIA???

[Window Vista]

Look at any gpu chart and see the number of transistors climb. With ATI already having 380 million transistors on there current chip and Nvidia rumored to have 700 million transistors on the g80, 1 billion transisitors is just around the corner. How will nvidia cope with this? Do they expect TSMC to be able to fab these insane counts? ATI has a way out. They have AMD which could start using its soon to be old 65nm fabs to do 1 billion transistor count chips. Just not sure about nvidia.

If transistor counts hold steady (which i doubt) and clocking goes up instead, we have even an harder problem. Neither ATI and Nvidia have never been able to make super high clocked chips such as CPU's. From my understanding going from 500Mhz to 2Ghz required lots of engineers and exotic custom gate desgin. ATI again has a way out. AMD engineers could be recruited on ATI's gpu design to get its clock higher.

I'm just not seeing good things for Nvidia. I've been a fan of nvidia and have made tons of money off its stock, but right now unless Intel buys them (which i highly doubt) I'm very worried about Nvidia's long term survival (btw I do not own any nvda stock at this time). Intel also has been rumored to have 2000 engineers working on graphics technologies http://www.smartmoney.com/Techsmart/...1020&afl=yahoo
Whereas Nvida is to be rumored to have an x86 design team working on an integrated cpu/gpu chip. I doubt Nvidia's ability to get a cpu into the 2Ghz range. (theinquirer..take it with salt)

ATI's survival will depend on an AMD executive decision on how they want to pursue the high end graphics market. If AMD cuts off ATI's resources for high end chips its over for them.

I hope we have Nvidia vs. ATI for many years to come. Consumers have really benefited from the competition. But right now we are entering uncharted waters.

FONTE:http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34913

Che ne PENSATE???

[Simon82]

Originariamente inviato da Window Vista

Look at any gpu chart and see the number of transistors climb. With ATI already having 380 million transistors on there current chip and Nvidia rumored to have 700 million transistors on the g80, 1 billion transisitors is just around the corner. How will nvidia cope with this? Do they expect TSMC to be able to fab these insane counts? ATI has a way out. They have AMD which could start using its soon to be old 65nm fabs to do 1 billion transistor count chips. Just not sure about nvidia.

If transistor counts hold steady (which i doubt) and clocking goes up instead, we have even an harder problem. Neither ATI and Nvidia have never been able to make super high clocked chips such as CPU's. From my understanding going from 500Mhz to 2Ghz required lots of engineers and exotic custom gate desgin. ATI again has a way out. AMD engineers could be recruited on ATI's gpu design to get its clock higher.

I'm just not seeing good things for Nvidia. I've been a fan of nvidia and have made tons of money off its stock, but right now unless Intel buys them (which i highly doubt) I'm very worried about Nvidia's long term survival (btw I do not own any nvda stock at this time). Intel also has been rumored to have 2000 engineers working on graphics technologies http://www.smartmoney.com/Techsmart/...1020&afl=yahoo
Whereas Nvida is to be rumored to have an x86 design team working on an integrated cpu/gpu chip. I doubt Nvidia's ability to get a cpu into the 2Ghz range. (theinquirer..take it with salt)

ATI's survival will depend on an AMD executive decision on how they want to pursue the high end graphics market. If AMD cuts off ATI's resources for high end chips its over for them.

I hope we have Nvidia vs. ATI for many years to come. Consumers have really benefited from the competition. But right now we are entering uncharted waters.

FONTE:http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34913

Che ne PENSATE???

Penso che dipenda tutto da quello che vorra' AMD per la propria nuova divisione chiamata... ATI..
Se effettivamente taglieranno risorse non credo che vedremo piu' rincorse alla tecnologia tali da rendere convenienti le scelte dei consumatori e Nvidia potrebbe davvero rimanere l'unica azienda in questo campo.
D'altro canto non credo nemmeno che AMD non abbia qualche progetto in serbo per tutto il know-how che si porta in casa (a parte i vociferati 120 dipendenti Ati in via di licenziamento).
Riguardo i transistor se davvero Nvidia e' riuscita a raggiungere i 700 milioni di transistor in una soluzione single die con processo a 0.90u direi che arrivare al miliardo e' davvero un obiettivo vicino anche se possiamo parlare solo su numeri e statistiche, dal momento che non siamo a conoscenza delle reali difficolta' che possono poter incontrare a questo stadio della tecnologia.

[Window Vista]

700 milioni in 90NM, non credo, però ci spero!!

[Defragg]

Originariamente inviato da Window Vista

700 milioni in 90NM, non credo, però ci spero!!

io credo...ma non spero

[Window Vista]

Originariamente inviato da Defragg

io credo...ma non spero

Visto il dissipatore com'è grande e lunghezza della scheda, occhio!!!