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We Are Conducting Military Operations Inside Iran Right Now.
Il colonnello dell'Airforce Sam Gardiner: "Stiamo facendo operazioni militari in Iran proprio ora. Le evidenze sono schiaccianti"
Gardiner ha insegnato al U.S. Army's National War College e ha insinuato che le forze U.S. siano già sul suolo Iranianio. Oggi ha affermato alcuni punti: 1)Il Comitato del Congresso sulle Emergenti Minacce ha chiamato ufficiali del Dipartimento di stato e della Difesa per sapere se l'esercito statunitense era in Iran. Gli ufficiali non hanno ascoltato la richiesta 2)Dal Time abbiamo saputo che alcune forze navali statunitensi sono state allertate per lo schieramento. Questo è un grande spostamento 3)L'operazione è andata alla Casa Bianca. Non sono movimenti normali. Quando il piano di un'operazione va alla Casa Bianca, vuol dire che ci stiamo muovendo verso un altro stato Transcript: Col. Sam Gardiner on CNN, 9/18/06 BLITZER: How likely is the U.S. strike against Iran? And would it lead to all-out war? Joining us now is retired U.S. Air Force colonel Sam Gardiner. He has taught strategy and military operations at the National War College, the Air War College, and the Naval War College. Colonel thanks very much for coming in. He just prepared a paper for the Century Foundation entitled “Considering the U.S. Military Option For Iran.” You speak to a lot of people plugged in. What is your bottom line? How close in your opinion is the Bush Administration to giving that go ahead. GARDINER: It’s been given. In fact, we’ve probably been executing military operations inside Iran for at least 18 months. The evidence is overwhelming BLITZER: Wait. Wait. Let me press you. GARDINER: Sure. BLITZER: When you say it’s been given. The president says he wants diplomacy to work to convince the Iranian government to stop enriching uranium, not go forward. “I would tell the Iranian people that we have no desire for conflict.” He told David Ignatius of the Washington Post the other day. So what does that mean, the order has been given? GARDINER: We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now. The evidence is overwhelming. From both the Iranians, Americans, and from congressional sources. BLITZER: What is “military operation?” Define that. GARDINER: Sure. They probably have had two objectives going back 18 months. The first was to gather intelligence. Where is the Iranian nuclear program? The second has been to prepare dissident groups for phase two which will be the strike, which will come as the next phase, I think. BLITZER: Preparing intelligence, that’s understandable using all sorts of means. They want to know what the Iranians are up to in terms of their nuclear program. But are you suggesting that U.S. military forces, special operations forces, or others are on the ground right now in Iran. GARDINER: Yes, sir. Certainly. Absolutely clear the evidence is overwhelming from lots of sources, and, again, most of them you can read in the public. Seymore Hersch has done good work on it. There are lots of other people who have done that. I have talked to Iranians. I asked an Iranian ambassador to the IAEA, what’s this I hear about Americans being there? He said to me, well, we’ve captured some people who worked with them. We’ve confirmed that they’re there. BLITZER: Yeah, but, you know, these guys — the Iranians, you can’t necessarily believe what they’re saying. They could arrest some dissidents in Iran and say these are American spies. They do that all the time. GARDINER: Sure. Sure. The House Committee on Emerging Threats tried to have a hearing some weeks ago in which they asked the Department of State and Defense to come and answer this question because it’s serious enough to be answered without congressional approval, and they didn’t come to the hearing. There are sources that I have talked to on the Hill who believe that that’s true and that it’s being done without congressional oversight. BLITZER: Look, I was once a Pentagon correspondent many years ago, and in those days and in these days, as Jamie McIntire just reported, and as you well know from your time in active duty in the Pentagon, in the U.S. military, these guys are planning contingency operations for almost everything. If Canada goes to war against the United States, they have a contingency plan. GARDINER: Okay, two differences. Number one, we have learned from TIME Magazine today that some U.S. naval forces had been alerted for deployment. That is a major step. That’s first. Second thing is the sources suggest the plan that’s not in the Pentagon. The plan has gone to the White House. That’s not normal planning. When the plan goes to the White House, that means we’ve gone to a different state. BLITZER: You think it’s possible there is a little psychological warfare being played on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to rattle him. To spread the word. To put out this kind of information. To get him nervous, perhaps a little bit more agreeable to the diplomatic option. GARDINER: It’s possible. It’s also possible that this path was selected a long time ago. You recall that even before Gulf II that a time when the president said we have no plan. I have no plan on my desk. In the summer of 2002 we began bombing Iraq. Operation Southern Focus, without congressional approval, without the U.N. sanctions, we went ahead and began bombing. BLITZER: The argument at that time is if there were violations of the no-fly zone, U.S. war planes were flying in the north and the south and there were rockets or anti-aircraft fire going up, they could take those out. GARDINER: Yes, but it was a campaign to begin the war before the war began. You know, I would suggest the evidence is there. BLITZER: You see a similar pattern right now. GARDINER: Exactly. BLITZER: We’re going to follow this closely. Colonel Sam Gardener, thank you very much. We look forward to reading your report that the Century Foundation is putting out as well. Fonte Altro sito Mi sa che a novembre si va in Iran ![]() E naturalmente ringrazio la stampa italiana per la notizia che NON è ancora arrivata Ultima modifica di y4k : 24-09-2006 alle 18:21. |
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USA USA USA USA
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praticamente sta affermando che elementi delle forze speciali si trovino già in Iran, e io dico, saran 2 anni che le forze speciali americane e inglesi tengono d'occhio l'iran dall'interno! Sai che novità!!
Cmq la cosa è segreta, ma cosi segreta...che nemmeno gli iraniani ne hanno dato notizia! |
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Iscritto dal: Nov 2003
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In effetti non mi pare una grossa novità
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Città: Mission world: Napoles, Milan, Madrid, Paris, London, Now AMSTERDAM!!!!! yahoooo!!! Next stop: California, Tnx TNS-NIPO!!
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Cmq le forze armate Americane non sono formate tutte da Marines, quando si vede un militare Americano in Italia lo chiamano sempre Marines
cmq a patto che la notizia sia vera, non hanno ancora ammazzato nessuna famiglia
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Iscritto dal: Aug 2004
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vero vero... le forze speciali sono solite rischiare il culo per uccidere un insignificanete (dal punto di vista politico/strategico/economico/militare) famiglia. |
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Iscritto dal: Apr 2004
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soprattutto perchè allo stato attuale saranno tutte missioni di osservazione dove il solo fatto di sparare un colpo significa che la missione è andata a mignotte
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Città: Mission world: Napoles, Milan, Madrid, Paris, London, Now AMSTERDAM!!!!! yahoooo!!! Next stop: California, Tnx TNS-NIPO!!
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e allora perche' la cia ha sequestrato un cittadino tedesco, lo hanno rapito , torturato e poi rilasciato dato che non era un terrorista? ci sono 25 ordini di cattura di agenti cia guarda caso alcuni di loro sono coinvolti anche nel sequestro di abu omar! aaaaaaaaaaa la poca informazione... magari il prossimo errore potresti essere tu.... felice? |
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Città: Mission world: Napoles, Milan, Madrid, Paris, London, Now AMSTERDAM!!!!! yahoooo!!! Next stop: California, Tnx TNS-NIPO!!
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ritornado in tema... ti sembra giusto che forze speciali facciano i loro comodi con persone e su territori stranieri? a me no... a sto punto anche io sono una forza speciale del pianeta argonet e posso venire a prenderti a calci |
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Sono anche quelli che hanno liberato l'Italia dal Nazifascismo ...non fosse stato per loro andremmo in giro col braccio teso urlando "eia eia alalalà..." o peggio ancora andremmo in giro facendo il passo dell'oca e aspettando la prossima riunione del Soviet Supremo Italiano....
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cmq a patto che la notizia sia vera, non hanno ancora ammazzato nessuna famiglia
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