12" in un anno e chiedono pure scusa - Pagina 2

JENA PLISSKEN · 24-03-2004, 19:08

NO...è troppo...da domani mai + treni giapponesi...solo INTERCITY FS

davidirro · 24-03-2004, 19:12

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Originariamente inviato da lunaticgate
Confermo io ho preso la tratta Tokyo-Kyoto con l'Hikari (gli shinkansen sono di tre tipi Kodama, hikari e nozomi) e sono rimasto sbalordito tre minuti prima della partenza chiudono le porte e se viene qualcuno 1 minuto prima non le aprono!

E perchè non mettono l'orario di partenza tre minuti prima allora?

Forse per avere tre minuti per recuperare i ritardi...

Hai capito, i GIAPPONESI!!!

Blind Guardian · 24-03-2004, 19:15

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Originariamente inviato da davidirro
E perchè non mettono l'orario di partenza tre minuti prima allora?

Forse per avere tre minuti per recuperare i ritardi...

Hai capito, i GIAPPONESI!!!

infatti!

loncs · 24-03-2004, 19:21

Punte oltre i 300Km/h ... spaventoso.
Sarei curioso di calcolare l'energia cinetica di uno shinkansen a pieno carico alla velocità di punta.

DvL^Nemo · 24-03-2004, 19:22

Ah ragazzi e' come una coltellata, per me che viaggio da 5 anni, specialmente negli ultimi giorni che hanno occupato le stazioni a Napoli sono arrivato sempre con 2 ore di ritardo..

Ciao !

Flajan · 24-03-2004, 19:32

Sarei curioso piuttosto di sapere quanto costano i biglietti per viaggiare su quel treno.

gilthas · 24-03-2004, 19:45

Cmq per farlo viaggiare a quelle velocità hanno dovuto costruire dei binari speciali....cmq il nostro dramma è che spendiamo troppo poco in "costruzione" infatti abbiamo dovuto usare il pendolino (che è un opera geniale) per avere l'alta velocità su normali binari...cmq in Italia le tratte vere ad alta velocità per me sono veramente poche....

SHINKANSEN HIGH SPEED 'BULLET TRAIN', JAPAN
Japan is where regular, high-speed railways were born. The country's Shinkansen ('Bullet Train') network has been developed over more than 35 years, and covers all main trunk routes.

The network centres on the capital Tokyo, with lines to the west and north of this densely-populated nation. New Shinkansen variants are still under development, maintaining the country's pre-eminent technological position.

THE PROJECT

The first line to see these ground-breaking trains was from Tokyo to Osaka, the Tokaido Shinkansen, opened in October 1964. Initially, the trains ran at up to 200km/h (125mph), but this has been increased with improvements in infrastructure, signalling and maintenance.

The second generation Shinkansen was introduced in 1972 between Shin-Osaka and Okayama, three years later being extended to Hakata. Infrastructure improvements later allowed line speeds to be increased to 220km/h.

The first Shinkansen to the north of the country began operating in 1982. These were the Tohoku Shinkansen, from Tokyo to Morioka, and the Joetsu, to Niigata. Northbound services have been expanded, with the introduction of the Yamagata Shinkansen from Fukushima to Yamagata, the Akita Shinkansen between Morioka and Akita, and the Hokuriku Shinkansen, from Takasaki to Nagano.

INFRASTRUCTURE

Operating such an intensively used, high-speed railway creates enormous strains on the infrastructure, and as a result, around a third of all costs are swallowed up in maintenance.

Shinkansen run largely on conventional steel rail mounted on concrete sleepers, but the fastest services use dedicated tracks to avoid conflict with slower trains.

Shinkansen trains run on two different gauges - 1,067mm and 1,435mm - which precludes each part of the system from using the other's trains. However, many of the narrower gauge routes are to be converted to 1,435mm, and JR East finished conversion of its Yamagata-Shinjo route in December 1999.

SIGNALLING/COMMUNICATIONS

Signalling is largely fixed block, although with such high line speeds, sections are much longer than is standard elsewhere.

A regular clock-face departure pattern for most services helps maintain a high level of reliability, but, in the event of emergencies, train crews are in constant contact with their nearest control centre.

Information systems on newer variants of Shinkansen trains are proving much more reliable than previously, thanks to their use of much shorter cable lengths.

ROLLING STOCK

Three types of trains operate on the Shinkansen routes. Nozomi are the fastest and most modern trains - the dramatically-styled 500 Series. The type is distinguished by its 15 metre-long power car nose, giving an extremely aerodynamic profile. The driver's cab has a dome canopy, to allow excellent forward vision.

The 500 Series also boasts an innovative pantograph design, shaped like a wing, which also helps reduce wind resistance at high speed. Drivers' instruments are all laid out in groups according to their function. Extensive soundproofing means there is little sensation of speed inside trains, and wind noise is at a minimum.

THE FUTURE

Two major expansions of the Shinkansen network remain a priority. Northbound services are planned to be extended to Sapporo, on the island of Hokkaido, while the JR-West services are earmarked on the Sanyo Shinkansen network around Fukuoka on the island of Kyushu. The latter involves a new 211km line from Funagoya to Kagoshima, on which work was under way at the turn of the century.

The next candidate is the 59km of the Nagano Shinkansen from Nagano to Joetsu, with plans existing to eventually extend this to Komatsu via Toyama and Kanazawa.

Major experiments are also being conducted into the use of magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology, on which magnetic power is used to levitate the vehicles, and propelled by linear motors, which gives potential for even higher speeds, by eliminating friction and vibration.

The Japanese government is currently evaulating the results of a three-year testing programme for possible future high-speed developments.

Hanamichi · 24-03-2004, 19:50

CHE MATTI

hikari84 · 24-03-2004, 20:04

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Originariamente inviato da Chester
Sei andato in giappone con hikari?

Io non c'ero se c'ero dormivo...

davidirro · 24-03-2004, 20:09

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Originariamente inviato da Flajan
Sarei curioso piuttosto di sapere quanto costano i biglietti per viaggiare su quel treno.

OTTIMA domanda in effetti...

/\/\@®¢Ø · 24-03-2004, 20:12

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Originariamente inviato da kikki2
Ah 'sti giapponesi , lo facessero pure qua !!! http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...24/treno.shtml

azzz. e io pensavo che ti riferissi ad una delle tante lettere di spam "enlarge your penis" (12 pollici in un anno non sono male

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taddeus · 24-03-2004, 20:33

I giapponesi sono trent'anni che utilizzano treni superveloci, noi sono trent'anni che li sperimentiamo.
Quando noi avremo delle linee decenti loro avranno la levitazione magnetica.

Fradetti · 24-03-2004, 20:46

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Originariamente inviato da taddeus
I giapponesi sono trent'anni che utilizzano treni superveloci, noi sono trent'anni che li sperimentiamo.
Quando noi avremo delle linee decenti loro avranno la levitazione magnetica.

cercate maglev su google..... 581 KM/H lo scorso dicembre.... e stanno ancora cercando di raggiungere i 600

con un treno del genere mi farei un nizza parigi in meno di 2 ore

DUX · 24-03-2004, 22:09

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Originariamente inviato da Fradetti
cercate maglev su google..... 581 KM/H lo scorso dicembre.... e stanno ancora cercando di raggiungere i 600

con un treno del genere mi farei un nizza parigi in meno di 2 ore

davidirro · 24-03-2004, 22:15

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Originariamente inviato da Fradetti
cercate maglev su google..... 581 KM/H lo scorso dicembre.... e stanno ancora cercando di raggiungere i 600

con un treno del genere mi farei un nizza parigi in meno di 2 ore

Un aereo con le ruote?

Bet · 24-03-2004, 23:52

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Originariamente inviato da kikki2
Ah 'sti giapponesi , lo facessero pure qua !!! http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...24/treno.shtml

pazzesco!
sono su un altro pianeta!

Thunder82 · 25-03-2004, 00:40

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Originariamente inviato da taddeus

Quando noi avremo delle linee decenti loro avranno la levitazione magnetica.

Ce l'hanno già da qualche anno

eriol · 25-03-2004, 01:20

:invidia: :massimorispetto:

taddeus · 25-03-2004, 06:53

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Originariamente inviato da Thunder82
Ce l'hanno già da qualche anno

certo, qualche metro

Ciaba · 25-03-2004, 07:25

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Originariamente inviato da Bet
pazzesco!
sono su un altro pianeta!

...no, siamo noi che facciamo paurosamente cagare...o meglio: Mafia power=no power.

24-03-2004, 19:08	#21
JENA PLISSKEN Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2001 Città: Prov. BA Messaggi: 6934	NO...è troppo...da domani mai + treni giapponesi...solo INTERCITY FS __________________ Auto : ""GUNDAM"" @ RR"":...sempre MOOOLTO W.I.P.

24-03-2004, 19:21	#24
loncs Senior Member Iscritto dal: Dec 1999 Città: Mestre Messaggi: 3282	Punte oltre i 300Km/h ... spaventoso. Sarei curioso di calcolare l'energia cinetica di uno shinkansen a pieno carico alla velocità di punta. __________________ Diablo III

24-03-2004, 19:32	#26
Flajan Senior Member Iscritto dal: Aug 2003 Città: Eutropia Messaggi: 94	Sarei curioso piuttosto di sapere quanto costano i biglietti per viaggiare su quel treno. __________________ "Il comando più difficile è comandare a se stessi." (Lucio Anneo Seneca) Immagine rimossa dallo staff per violazione del regolamento.

24-03-2004, 20:33	#32
taddeus Member Iscritto dal: Jan 2001 Città: Pavia-Cagliari Messaggi: 296	I giapponesi sono trent'anni che utilizzano treni superveloci, noi sono trent'anni che li sperimentiamo. Quando noi avremo delle linee decenti loro avranno la levitazione magnetica. __________________ Per mare, per terram AXU

24-03-2004, 19:22	#25
DvL^Nemo Senior Member Iscritto dal: Nov 2001 Città: 100 metri dal mare Messaggi: 4856	Ah ragazzi e' come una coltellata, per me che viaggio da 5 anni, specialmente negli ultimi giorni che hanno occupato le stazioni a Napoli sono arrivato sempre con 2 ore di ritardo.. Ciao !

24-03-2004, 19:45	#27
gilthas Senior Member Iscritto dal: May 2003 Città: Roma Messaggi: 2967	Cmq per farlo viaggiare a quelle velocità hanno dovuto costruire dei binari speciali....cmq il nostro dramma è che spendiamo troppo poco in "costruzione" infatti abbiamo dovuto usare il pendolino (che è un opera geniale) per avere l'alta velocità su normali binari...cmq in Italia le tratte vere ad alta velocità per me sono veramente poche.... SHINKANSEN HIGH SPEED 'BULLET TRAIN', JAPAN Japan is where regular, high-speed railways were born. The country's Shinkansen ('Bullet Train') network has been developed over more than 35 years, and covers all main trunk routes. The network centres on the capital Tokyo, with lines to the west and north of this densely-populated nation. New Shinkansen variants are still under development, maintaining the country's pre-eminent technological position. THE PROJECT The first line to see these ground-breaking trains was from Tokyo to Osaka, the Tokaido Shinkansen, opened in October 1964. Initially, the trains ran at up to 200km/h (125mph), but this has been increased with improvements in infrastructure, signalling and maintenance. The second generation Shinkansen was introduced in 1972 between Shin-Osaka and Okayama, three years later being extended to Hakata. Infrastructure improvements later allowed line speeds to be increased to 220km/h. The first Shinkansen to the north of the country began operating in 1982. These were the Tohoku Shinkansen, from Tokyo to Morioka, and the Joetsu, to Niigata. Northbound services have been expanded, with the introduction of the Yamagata Shinkansen from Fukushima to Yamagata, the Akita Shinkansen between Morioka and Akita, and the Hokuriku Shinkansen, from Takasaki to Nagano. INFRASTRUCTURE Operating such an intensively used, high-speed railway creates enormous strains on the infrastructure, and as a result, around a third of all costs are swallowed up in maintenance. Shinkansen run largely on conventional steel rail mounted on concrete sleepers, but the fastest services use dedicated tracks to avoid conflict with slower trains. Shinkansen trains run on two different gauges - 1,067mm and 1,435mm - which precludes each part of the system from using the other's trains. However, many of the narrower gauge routes are to be converted to 1,435mm, and JR East finished conversion of its Yamagata-Shinjo route in December 1999. SIGNALLING/COMMUNICATIONS Signalling is largely fixed block, although with such high line speeds, sections are much longer than is standard elsewhere. A regular clock-face departure pattern for most services helps maintain a high level of reliability, but, in the event of emergencies, train crews are in constant contact with their nearest control centre. Information systems on newer variants of Shinkansen trains are proving much more reliable than previously, thanks to their use of much shorter cable lengths. ROLLING STOCK Three types of trains operate on the Shinkansen routes. Nozomi are the fastest and most modern trains - the dramatically-styled 500 Series. The type is distinguished by its 15 metre-long power car nose, giving an extremely aerodynamic profile. The driver's cab has a dome canopy, to allow excellent forward vision. The 500 Series also boasts an innovative pantograph design, shaped like a wing, which also helps reduce wind resistance at high speed. Drivers' instruments are all laid out in groups according to their function. Extensive soundproofing means there is little sensation of speed inside trains, and wind noise is at a minimum. THE FUTURE Two major expansions of the Shinkansen network remain a priority. Northbound services are planned to be extended to Sapporo, on the island of Hokkaido, while the JR-West services are earmarked on the Sanyo Shinkansen network around Fukuoka on the island of Kyushu. The latter involves a new 211km line from Funagoya to Kagoshima, on which work was under way at the turn of the century. The next candidate is the 59km of the Nagano Shinkansen from Nagano to Joetsu, with plans existing to eventually extend this to Komatsu via Toyama and Kanazawa. Major experiments are also being conducted into the use of magnetic levitation (Maglev) technology, on which magnetic power is used to levitate the vehicles, and propelled by linear motors, which gives potential for even higher speeds, by eliminating friction and vibration. The Japanese government is currently evaulating the results of a three-year testing programme for possible future high-speed developments.

24-03-2004, 19:50	#28
Hanamichi Bannato Iscritto dal: Apr 2002 Città: Roma Messaggi: 7014	CHE MATTI

25-03-2004, 01:20	#38
eriol Senior Member Iscritto dal: Mar 2002 Città: hinterland nord milano Messaggi: 802	:invidia: :massimorispetto:

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