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drakend
24-10-2007, 13:01
China launches first lunar orbiter
BEIJING, Oct 24 (AFP) Oct 24, 2007
China on Wednesday launched its first lunar orbiter in an event broadcast on national television, with the mission a key step in the nation's plans to put a man on the moon by 2020.

Chang'e I took off around 6:05 pm (1005 GMT) from a launch centre in southwestern China's Sichuan province for what is slated to be a one-year expedition to explore and map the moon.

"The operation is normal," voices in the control room repeatedly said on the television broadcast in the minutes shortly after the launch.

After the rocket carrying the satellite moved above the clouds and out of television camera range, the broadcast showed computer simulation images of it heading east over Taiwan.

The expedition, costing 1.4 billion yuan (184 million dollars), kicked off a programme that aims to land an unmanned rover on the moon's surface by 2012 and put a man on the moon by about 2020.

It came after Japan last month launched its first lunar probe and ahead of a similar mission planned by India for next year.

China has hailed the lunar orbiter as the third major milestone event for the nation's space programme, after developing rockets and satellites since the 1970s and sending men into orbit in 2003 and 2005.

The first crucial stage during the satellite's 380,000-kilometre (235,600-mile) journey to the moon will be leaving Earth's orbit on October 31.

It is then slated to enter a lunar orbit on November 5 and transmit first images of the moon to Earth in late November.

http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/071024102930.gu38h0n1.html


China to Launch Space Probe, Aims for Astronaut on Moon by 2020

By Lee Spears

Oct. 24 (Bloomberg) -- China will launch its first lunar probe today, marking the start of a three-phase space program to land an astronaut on the moon by 2020.

The probe, named Chang'e I, is scheduled to blast off from the Xichang satellite launch center in southern China at 6 p.m. local time, carried by the three-stage Long March 3A rocket, according to state-run Xinhua News Agency.

China's lunar launch, coinciding with the NASA shuttle Discovery's blastoff for a two-week mission, underscores China's technology ambitions including the push to build its own aircraft carrier. The third country after the U.S. and Russia to send an astronaut into space, China wants to offer commercial satellite launches, competing with Europe, Japan, Russia and the U.S.

``If they can have a successful expedition to the moon, then they can attract contracts from Europe or other areas for other satellite launches,'' Yang Tai-suenn, a professor of politics at Chinese Culture University in Taipei, said in a phone interview yesterday. ``They can prove they have the technology.''

Chang'e is named after a Chinese deity that, according to myth, lives on the moon with her pet rabbit. After the lunar probe, China plans to land a rover on the moon by 2012, aiming to retrieve soil and rock samples, Xinhua said yesterday, citing the China National Space Administration. The space agency aims to land an astronaut by 2020, Xinhua said.

China's government will shorten the research cycle for aerospace and set up industries to develop space technology, according to an Oct. 18 blueprint. The government also wants to help local aerospace companies compete with Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp., the administration said last year.

Mao's Edict

China's space program began from a 1958 edict by Mao Zedong to build a satellite to compete with American and Soviet advances in space. The Long March 3A rockets, named after the People's Liberation Army maneuver that saved Mao's guerilla force, has completed 14 consecutive launches, Xinhua said.

The country in 2003 became the third after the U.S. and Russia to send a person into space aboard its own rocket. In 2005, China's second manned space flight carried two astronauts into orbit. Attempted Long March launches in 1995 and 1996 failed as the rockets veered off course, exploding and killing an unknown number of people on the ground.

Seeking Funding

China said last October it plans to relax restrictions and allow private companies inside and outside China invest in the state-controlled space industry.

Attracting non-governmental funds would help China boost its space budget, which is less than 10 percent of NASA's, the Chinese space administration head Sun Laiyuan said in October 2006, without revealing the amount.

NASA's fiscal 2007 budget is $16.8 billion, according to a document on the agency's Web site. In 2006, the European Space Agency's budget was 2.9 billion euros ($4.1 billion), according to its Web site.

Japan's Kaguya lunar explorer, the nation's first, entered the moon's orbit on Oct. 4. It's of the largest space missions since NASA's Apollo program in the 1970s.

``We hope they succeed,'' the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency's spokesman Tatsuo Oshima said in an interview yesterday. ``International cooperation is very important for technological development. We should encourage each other so we can both succeed.''

The U.S., which landed astronauts on the moon in 1969, has yet to repeat the feat. NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said last month that China will have a successful moon landing before the U.S. can make a return visit, the Associated Press reported on Oct. 3. NASA has a 2020 deadline for its next manned moon landing, according to its Web site.

The launch of the Chinese lunar orbiter is possible until Oct. 26, state-owned China Daily newspaper reported yesterday, citing Cen Zheng, chief commander of the carrier-rocket system. If the launch is delayed by weather, the next opportunity would be in April 2008, the newspaper said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=a.j7.jRo23LA&refer=asia

Tommy81
25-10-2007, 09:05
http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/071024102930.gu38h0n1.html


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=a.j7.jRo23LA&refer=asia

Misà che ci vanno davvero sulla luna per il 2020-2030!!!:fagiano:

drakend
25-10-2007, 13:13
Misà che ci vanno davvero sulla luna per il 2020-2030!!!:fagiano:
Più che altro noto un quasi completo disinteresse verso le iniziative spaziali della Cina e degli altri Paesi in generale. Cos'è esistono solo gli USA? :rolleyes:

razziadacqua
25-10-2007, 15:10
No raga,disastro,adesso comincieranno a contraffarre pure i sassi lunari -.-

MaxArt
25-10-2007, 15:21
No raga,disastro,adesso comincieranno a contraffarre pure i sassi lunari -.-E tu ci scherzi, ma... :asd:

Comunque non vorrei che, in barba ai trattati internazionali, considerassero per allora la Luna come territorio cinese. Tipo Taiwan :fagiano:

IcEMaN666
25-10-2007, 16:59
Più che altro noto un quasi completo disinteresse verso le iniziative spaziali della Cina e degli altri Paesi in generale. Cos'è esistono solo gli USA? :rolleyes:

è che gli USA da buoni esibizionisti pubblicizzano, sbandierano ovunque tutto quello che fanno. video, una tv, live streaming dallo spazio, siti, informazione.
degli altri non si sa mai niente di niente:rolleyes:

razziadacqua
26-10-2007, 16:02
Oh cmq ragazzi questi il 5novembre arrivano e per metà dovremmo avere le prima immagini.
La sonda inoltre pare abbia intenzione di fare un pò di tutto:

The Moon had been lonely for a while, but now there's no shortage of spacecraft on the way. The latest visitor, China's Chang'e-1, blasted off today from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre, Sichuan, atop a Long March 3A rocket. Although this spacecraft is just a lunar orbiter, it begins the country's journey to putting a lander down on the surface of the Moon before 2020.

Just like the Japanese spacecraft already orbiting the Moon, and the upcoming US Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, this Chinese spacecraft will studying the Moon in detail.

It has four major objectives: to map the Moon's surface in 3-D, to analyze the abundance of 14 chemical elements, to measure the depth of the lunar soil (or regolith), and to study the space weather between the Earth and the Moon.

The ambitious spacecraft weighs in at 2,350 kg, and will transition to a low, circular lunar orbit, skimming just 200 km above the surface. It's expected to begin its Earth-Moon transfer burn on October 31st, and arrive in lunar orbit on November 5th. It's expected that Chang'e-1 will take its first images on the Moon in late November, and continue scientific observations for a year.

_fred_
26-10-2007, 16:22
Misà che ci vanno davvero sulla luna per il 2020-2030!!!:fagiano:

Bhe, se ci si mettono d'impegno ci arrivano anche prima di quella data...

jpjcssource
26-10-2007, 16:24
Secondo me questo rinato interessamento alla luna non è solo per scopo scientifico e di competizione fra le potenze, ma piuttosto per i giacimenti minerari che ci possono essere da sfruttare (soprattutto se parliamo della Cina, paese abituato a volere risultati materiali più che puramente intellettuali). :)

Bisogna ricordare che, oltre a uranio, torio, potassio, ossigeno, silicio, magnesio, ferro, titanio, calcio, alluminio e idrogeno, sul nostro satellite c'è, in buona quantiatà, una risorsa importantissima per la produzione di energia nucleare nel futuro, ovvero l'isotopo elio-3 che sulla terra è rarissimo.



http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio-3

Lucrezio
30-10-2007, 13:31
;)

drakend
30-10-2007, 13:56
Ok grazie Lucrezio, così ci metto dentro tutte le notizie inerenti il programma spaziale cinese. Cominciamo subito con una notizia tipica della Cina! :D

Six Thousand People To Be Resettled To Make Way For New Space Launch Center

by Staff Writers
Haikou, China (XNA) Oct 30, 2007
More than 6,000 people will be relocated in China's southern island province of Hainan to make way for a new space launch center. Mayor Yan Zheng of Wenchang city, on Hainan's northeastern coast, said at a meeting on land acquisition on Monday that 1,200 hectares would be obtained for the center. The city's Party chief, Xie Mingzhong, promised they would properly handle issues concerning those to be resettled, such as employment, medical care and education.

Residents to be relocated will be mainly from Longlou and Dongjiao townships in Wenchang, a sparsely populated area in Hainan Island.

A special working detachment, consisting of 19 smaller groups, has been set up to take care of all affairs regarding land acquisition.

The detailed resettlement plan is still being worked on, said Xie.

The new launch center is expected to be completed in 2012 and formally put into use in 2013.

The site would be mainly used for launching synchronous satellites, heavy satellites, large space stations, and deep space probe satellites, according to a plan published in late September.

The plan has been approved by the State Council and the Central Military Commission.

A space themed park, with a budget of seven billion yuan (about875 million U.S. dollars) and occupying an area of 407 hectares, will also be constructed near the launch center. It is envisioned to create jobs for resettlers.

Hainan is located in a low-latitude region, which could help increase the capacity of rocket carriers and extend the life span of satellites.

China currently has three satellite launch centers, located in Jiuquan of Gansu province, Taiyuan of Shanxi Province, and Xichangof Sichuan Province.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Six_Thousand_People_To_Be_Resettled_To_Make_Way_For_New_Space_Launch_Center_999.html

Fradetti
30-10-2007, 14:10
manderanno su una sonda, diranno che la roba degli americani non c'è e daranno nuovo materiale ai complottisti.

Bel modo di spender soldi :O

DarKilleR
30-10-2007, 14:17
manderanno su una sonda, diranno che la roba degli americani non c'è e daranno nuovo materiale ai complottisti.

Bel modo di spender soldi :O

Se succede veramente, diversa gente mi deve offire da bere e una pizza ^^ :sofico:

drakend
30-10-2007, 14:24
Se pensate che il programma spaziale cinese sia solo dovuto a mera concorrenza con quello americano vi state sbagliando di grosso... la Cina sta gettando le basi per una vera e propria colonizzazione del nostro satellite, altro che screditare gli americani. Secondo me noi occidentali abbiamo un po' troppo il senso della superiorità tecnologica e questo falso senso di superiorità ci costerà amare delusioni in futuro.

adsasdhaasddeasdd
30-10-2007, 15:00
Se pensate che il programma spaziale cinese sia solo dovuto a mera concorrenza con quello americano vi state sbagliando di grosso... la Cina sta gettando le basi per una vera e propria colonizzazione del nostro satellite, altro che screditare gli americani. Secondo me noi occidentali abbiamo un po' troppo il senso della superiorità tecnologica e questo falso senso di superiorità ci costerà amare delusioni in futuro.


reltà uil nostro futuro è invasione cinese alla blade runner :sofico:

comunque secondo voi era possibile vedere la sonda dalla terra mentre la lanciavano? ovvio solo un puntino come un satellite.

drakend
30-10-2007, 15:25
comunque secondo voi era possibile vedere la sonda dalla terra mentre la lanciavano? ovvio solo un puntino come un satellite.
Penso sia molto difficile dato che l'oggetto è molto piccolo, a meno che non rifletta qualche raggio solare. Mi sbaglio?

drakend
19-11-2007, 12:23
First China Lunar Probe To Activate Observation Payloads On Monday

China's first lunar orbiter Chang'e-1 will adjust its posture to get positioned to the moon late on Monday night, and activate probing facilities aboard afterwards to get ready for scientific exploration, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) said on Sunday. The satellite has gone through a number of tests since it entered the 127-minute round polar circular orbit at an altitude of 200 km above the moon's surface on Nov. 7, according to Pei Zhaoyu, the spokesman for CNSA.

"All the tests indicate Chang'e-1 is working properly," said Pei, "and the satellite is in a very good state."

"The power supply is stable; its posture and temperature is under normal control; and its communications with the earth is smooth," Pei told Xinhua.

After Monday's maneuvers, the satellite will officially kick off scientific exploration of the moon.

During the process, it will also position its solar panel towards the sun for power generating and the directional antenna towards the earth to allow data to be transmitted back to the earth.

The 2,350-kg satellite carried eight probing facilities, including a stereo camera and interferometer, an imager and gamma/x-ray spectrometer, a laser altimeter, a microwave detector, a high energy solar particle detector and a low energy ion detector.

The satellite is expected to relay back its first picture of the moon in late November.

The satellite aims to fulfil four scientific objectives, including a three-dimensional survey of the Moon's surface, analysis of the abundance and distribution of elements on lunar surface, an investigation of the characteristics of lunar regolith and the powdery soil layer on the surface, and an exploration of the circumstance between the earth and the moon.

Chang'e-1, named after a mythical Chinese goddess who, according to legend, flew to the moon, blasted off on a Long March 3A carrier rocket at 6:05 p.m. on Oct. 24 from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in the southwestern province of Sichuan.

The satellite traveled nearly two million kilometers in its 15-day flight to the moon before it reached its final working orbit.

Chang'e-1 is designed to stay on its final working orbit for one year, however, Chinese scientists estimated that smooth operations and precise maneuvers may have saved 200 kg of fuel and help prolong the probe's life span.

The launch of the orbiter kicks off the first step of China's three-stage moon mission, which will lead to a moon landing and launch of a moon rover at around 2012. In the third phase, another rover will land on the moon and return to earth with lunar soil and stone samples for scientific research at around 2017.

China's lunar orbiter project has cost 1.4 billion yuan (187 million U.S. dollars) since research and development of the project was approved at the beginning of 2004.

Source: Xinhua News Agency

http://www.moondaily.com/reports/First_China_Lunar_Probe_To_Activate_Observation_Payloads_On_Monday_999.html

adsasdhaasddeasdd
19-11-2007, 14:54
Che pregievolezza il satellite lunare che darà modo agli scienziati di studiare, attraverso fotografie in 3D della superficie, la composizione della Luna per poter organizzare i prossimi allunaggi. Gli esperti prevedono che in futuro l'esplorazione spaziale, che fino ad oggi ha visto gli U.S.A. come attore principale, porterà alla costruzione di basi permanenti sul satellite della Terra e, successivamente, porterà una spedizione

gradisco molto un oggetto simile in orbita lunare.

Lucrezio
19-11-2007, 17:33
reltà uil nostro futuro è invasione cinese alla blade runner :sofico:

comunque secondo voi era possibile vedere la sonda dalla terra mentre la lanciavano? ovvio solo un puntino come un satellite.
Un po' di spam puo' anche andarmi bene...
ghe figo il satellite lunare.
... qui si comincia ad esagerare.
Non ci saranno altri avvisi.

Rand
19-11-2007, 22:51
L'estrazione di minerali sulla luna per riportarli sulla Terra ai costi attuali mi sembra un tantinello antieconomica :sofico: (a perte forse l'elio-3)

drakend
20-11-2007, 09:28
L'estrazione di minerali sulla luna per riportarli sulla Terra ai costi attuali mi sembra un tantinello antieconomica :sofico: (a perte forse l'elio-3)
Sì certo, attualmente sì: però a medio/lungo termine non è assolutamente così ovvio. I minerali sono una risorsa limitata, come lo sono i combustibili fossili: più passa il tempo più la disponibilità diminuisce e quindi è già normale che tendano ad aumentare di prezzo costantemente. Se poi ci aggiungi, contemporaneamente a questo, un aumento della domanda gli effetti sui prezzi li puoi benissimo immaginare da solo. :muro:
E poi, prima o poi, i combustibili fossili e i minerali finiranno a prescindere dal prezzo crescente o meno. A quel punto ci resteranno due alternative:
1) andiamo a prendere queste materie prime altrove
2) ritorniamo al Medioevo

Non si tratta di discutere se l'umanità si troverà di fronte ad un dilemma simile o meno, ma solo di quando ciò avverrà. Dato che il problema dell'esurimento delle risorse è reale ed inesorabile è semplicemente logico cominciare a gettare le basi oggi per costruire una solida presenza nei luoghi che saranno oggetto di intenso sfruttamento un domani nemmeno troppo lontano.
Riguardo al costo per mettere in orbita della massa hai ragione ancora una volta, ma anche questo sarà destinato a crollare sia perché diversi Paesi offriranno questo servizio sia perché entreranno in gioco anche società private. I programmi spaziali americano e cinese sono pensati proprio con lo scopo del futuro sfruttamento minerario della Luna, altro che romantiche esplorazioni di Marte ed oltre. Probabilmente prima o poi l'uomo arriverà anche su Marte, però sempre per sfruttarne le risorse... che all'inizio si chiamerà, in modo seducente, esplorazione dell'ignoto o qualche altra cavolata per tenere a bada l'opinione pubblica.

drakend
20-11-2007, 09:31
China aiming to replace foreign satellites: report

by Staff Writers
Beijing (AFP) Nov 19, 2007
China is aiming to replace all its imported communications and broadcast satellites with home-made ones by 2010 as part of efforts to reduce its reliance on overseas technology, state media said Monday.

The nation will step up research and development of these satellites as just one out of the 12 currently in use is Chinese-made, Sun Laiyan, chief of the China National Space Administration, was quoted by the Beijing News as saying.

"The rest were all bought from foreign companies," said Sun, who is also vice minister of the Commission of Science, Technology and Industry, at a conference on Sunday.

As China has become an economic powerhouse in recent decades, it has been intent on trying to phase out its use of overseas technology in a wide range of sectors for financial as well as national interest reasons.

Some of the key sectors that have made huge efforts to introduce domestic technology are the military, rail, telecommunications and energy.

China will also strive to finish the feasibility study of the second and third stages of its moon mission and its joint mission to Mars with Russia within three years, the official Xinhua news agency quoted Sun as saying.

China launched its first lunar orbiter last month, an event regarded by the nation as a milestone event in its space ambitions and global rise.

The satellite's year-long expedition, costing 1.4 billion yuan (184 million dollars), was the first stage of a mission that aims to land an unmanned rover on the moon's surface by 2012 and put a man on the moon by about 2020.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_aiming_to_replace_foreign_satellites_report_999.html

Lucrezio
20-11-2007, 19:30
Che pregievolezza il satellite lunare che darà modo agli scienziati di studiare, attraverso fotografie in 3D della superficie, la composizione della Luna per poter organizzare i prossimi allunaggi. Gli esperti prevedono che in futuro l'esplorazione spaziale, che fino ad oggi ha visto gli U.S.A. come attore principale, porterà alla costruzione di basi permanenti sul satellite della Terra e, successivamente, porterà una spedizione

gradisco molto un oggetto simile in orbita lunare.

Ok, forse non sono stato chiaro.
Ti ho chiesto (gentilmente) di evitare di intervenire in una discussione solo per spammare, dato che mi sembrava che 2 interventi su 2 (in un thread tecnico, tra il resto) del livello di quelli che hai fatto fossero fuori luogo.
Del fatto che in sezione ci sia un bel clima (con l'inconveniente che in alcune discussione ci sia un po' di chat) sono il primo ad essere contento, ma bisogna capire modi e luoghi.
Detto questo per favore evitiamo di prenderci in giro, ok?

drakend
21-11-2007, 10:25
Chinese plan manned space launch
by Staff Writers
Beijing (UPI) Nov 20, 2007
Chinese space officials announced Tuesday a manned spacecraft is scheduled to be launched in October 2008, shortly after the Beijing Olympic Games.

Three astronauts are scheduled to make the trip aboard Shenzhou VII, which includes a planned live broadcast of a spacewalk, the Oriental Morning Post in Shanghai reported.

"This is the first time for us to do this and it will be very exciting," said Pang Zhihao, a China Academy of Space Technology researcher.

China has launched two manned spacecraft, Shenzhou V and Shenzhou VI, in 2003 and 2005, sending three astronauts into the space on each of the missions.

Also, the country's next-generation launch vehicles for heavyweight satellites or space stations will be ready by 2013, China Daily reported.

"Research and tests on key technologies of the new rockets have been completed. According to our initial schedule, the rocket will be ready for its first lift-off about five years from now," said Zhang Yanhe, deputy director of the Tianjin Office of Science Technology and Industry for National Defense.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Chinese_plan_manned_space_launch_999.html