Gtk2 Perl qualcuno sa aiutare ?

[Lakaj]

Salve,
qualcuno sa come realizzare una text area non modificabile in Gtk2 perl ?
Ci dovrei inserire i risultati di una elaborazione.
Ho guardato la documentazione ufficiale di gtk2 perl ma fa a dir poco vomitare e non esiste descrizione dei metodi dei vari component...

[Lakaj]

Non riesco ancora a farla. Non so se con una Label viene lo stesso

[AngeL)]

Originariamente inviato da Lakaj

Non riesco ancora a farla. Non so se con una Label viene lo stesso

mi pare ci sia un'opzione che si puo modificare per rendere l'entry impossibile da modificare... ora controllo.
(comunque se devi usarlo per scriverci testo forse è meglio un label)

[AngeL)]

ecco qua

Switch: -state

Specifies one of three states for the entry: normal, disabled, or readonly.
If the entry is readonly, then the value may not be changed using widget commands and no insertion cursor will be displayed,
even if the input focus is in the widget; the contents of the widget may still be selected.
If the entry is disabled, the value may not be changed, no insertion cursor will be displayed, the contents will not be selectable,
and the entry may be displayed in a different color, depending on the values of the -disabledforeground and -disabledbackground options.

[Lakaj]

grazie per la risposta. In effetti penso sia meglio una Label. Il problema è che a questa label devo aggiungere molto testo, quindi per non compromettere la visibiltà dovrei montare una GTK2::Scrollbar verticale ?

E come se fa ?

[AngeL)]

Originariamente inviato da Lakaj

grazie per la risposta. In effetti penso sia meglio una Label. Il problema è che a questa label devo aggiungere molto testo, quindi per non compromettere la visibiltà dovrei montare una GTK2::Scrollbar verticale ?

E come se fa ?

uhm... effettivamente non ho mai usato una scrollbar... comunque dovresti fare qualcosa di questo tipo:

$label = $mainWindow->Scrolled(Label ,-scrollbars=>'e');

ora devo scendere un secondo... se non funziona (non ho provato) tra mezz'ora sono qua.

[Lakaj]

Non sto provando sono troppo preso da ciò che il programma deve fare, il che è tutto messo nell'evento clicked di uno dei button...
E' un progetto che devo consegnare il 29

[AngeL)]

Originariamente inviato da Lakaj

Non sto provando sono troppo preso da ciò che il programma deve fare, il che è tutto messo nell'evento clicked di uno dei button...
E' un progetto che devo consegnare il 29

ora faccio un paio di test per vedere se sto scrolled funziona... ti faccio sapere asap

[AngeL)]

boh... non ci riesco... ho la testa a signorine visto che è da ieri alle 14 che sto studiando la tesina x domani...
questo è quello che ho trovato:
NAME

Tk::Scrolled - Create a widget with attached scrollbar(s)

SYNOPSIS

$whatever = $parent->Scrolled(Whatever ?,-scrollbars=>where? ?,...?);

DESCRIPTION

To stop a flood of ScrlWhatever widgets Perl/Tk introcuded the special constructor Scrolled. Scrolled creates a widget of the given Class Whatever with attached scrollbar(s).

OPTIONS

All options beside -scrollbars explained below are passed to the Whatever widget constructor.

-scrollbars

Expects as argument the position where the scrollbars should be created: w, e or n, s or a combination of them. If the one or both positions are prefixed with o the scrollbar will only show up if there is a 'real' need to scroll.

ADVERTISED SUBWIDGETS

See Subwidget in the Tk::mega manpage how to use advertised widgets.

scrolled

the scrolled widget
widget

same as scrolled above. widget is the kind of widget passed to scrolled as first argument in all lowercase.
xscrollbar

the Scrollbar widget used for horizontal scrolling (if it exists)
yscrollbar

the Scrollbar widget used for vertical scrolling (if it exists)
corner

a frame in the corner between the vertical and horizontal scrolbar

BUGS

If a widget does not support -{x,y}scrollcommand options, Scrolled does not complain if the specified widget class does not support them. E.g.,

$parent->Scrolled('Button', ...)

One does not get an error message or warning when one tries to configure scrollbars after the widget construction:

$ascrolled->configure(-scrollbars => 'e');

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NAME

Tk::Scrollbar - Create and manipulate Scrollbar widgets

SYNOPSIS

$scrollbar = $parent->Scrollbar(?options?);

STANDARD OPTIONS

-activebackground -highlightbackground -orient -takefocus
-background -highlightcolor -relief -troughcolor
-borderwidth -highlightthickness -repeatdelay
-cursor -jump -repeatinterval

See the Tk::options manpage for details of the standard options.

WIDGET-SPECIFIC OPTIONS

Name: activeRelief
Class: ActiveRelief
Switch: -activerelief

Specifies the relief to use when displaying the element that is active, if any. Elements other than the active element are always displayed with a raised relief.
Name: command
Class: Command
Switch: -command

Specifies a callback to invoke to change the view in the widget associated with the scrollbar. When a user requests a view change by manipulating the scrollbar, the callback is invoked. The callback is passed additional arguments as described later. This option almost always has a value such as [xview => $widget] or [yview => $widget], consisting of the a widget object and either xview (if the scrollbar is for horizontal scrolling) or yview (for vertical scrolling). All scrollable widgets have xview and yview methods that take exactly the additional arguments appended by the scrollbar as described in SCROLLING COMMANDS below.
Name: elementBorderWidth
Class: BorderWidth
Switch: -elementborderwidth

Specifies the width of borders drawn around the internal elements of the scrollbar (the two arrows and the slider). The value may have any of the forms acceptable to Tk_GetPixels. If this value is less than zero, the value of the borderWidth option is used in its place.
Name: width
Class: Width
Switch: -width

Specifies the desired narrow dimension of the scrollbar window, not including 3-D border, if any. For vertical scrollbars this will be the width and for horizontal scrollbars this will be the height. The value may have any of the forms acceptable to Tk_GetPixels.

DESCRIPTION

The Scrollbar method creates a new window (given by the $widget argument) and makes it into a scrollbar widget. Additional options, described above, may be specified on the command line or in the option database to configure aspects of the scrollbar such as its colors, orientation, and relief. The scrollbar command returns its $widget argument. At the time this command is invoked, there must not exist a window named $widget, but $widget's parent must exist.

A scrollbar is a widget that displays two arrows, one at each end of the scrollbar, and a slider in the middle portion of the scrollbar. It provides information about what is visible in an associated window that displays an document of some sort (such as a file being edited or a drawing). The position and size of the slider indicate which portion of the document is visible in the associated window. For example, if the slider in a vertical scrollbar covers the top third of the area between the two arrows, it means that the associated window displays the top third of its document.

Scrollbars can be used to adjust the view in the associated window by clicking or dragging with the mouse. See BINDINGS below for details.

ELEMENTS

A scrollbar displays five elements, which are referred to in the methods for the scrollbar:

arrow1

The top or left arrow in the scrollbar.
trough1

The region between the slider and arrow1.
slider

The rectangle that indicates what is visible in the associated widget.
trough2

The region between the slider and arrow2.
arrow2

The bottom or right arrow in the scrollbar.

WIDGET METHODS

The Scrollbar method creates a widget object. This object supports the configure and cget methods described in the Tk::options manpage which can be used to enquire and modify the options described above. The widget also inherits all the methods provided by the generic Tk::Widget class.

The following additional methods are available for scrollbar widgets:

$scrollbar->activate(?element?)

Marks the element indicated by element as active, which causes it to be displayed as specified by the activeBackground and activeRelief options. The only element values understood by this command are arrow1, slider, or arrow2. If any other value is specified then no element of the scrollbar will be active. If element is not specified, the command returns the name of the element that is currently active, or an empty string if no element is active.
$scrollbar->delta(deltaX, deltaY)

Returns a real number indicating the fractional change in the scrollbar setting that corresponds to a given change in slider position. For example, if the scrollbar is horizontal, the result indicates how much the scrollbar setting must change to move the slider deltaX pixels to the right (deltaY is ignored in this case). If the scrollbar is vertical, the result indicates how much the scrollbar setting must change to move the slider deltaY pixels down. The arguments and the result may be zero or negative.
$scrollbar->fraction(x, y)

Returns a real number between 0 and 1 indicating where the point given by x and y lies in the trough area of the scrollbar. The value 0 corresponds to the top or left of the trough, the value 1 corresponds to the bottom or right, 0.5 corresponds to the middle, and so on. X and y must be pixel coordinates relative to the scrollbar widget. If x and y refer to a point outside the trough, the closest point in the trough is used.
$scrollbar->get

Returns the scrollbar settings in the form of a list whose elements are the arguments to the most recent set method.
$scrollbar->identify(x, y)

Returns the name of the element under the point given by x and y (such as arrow1), or an empty string if the point does not lie in any element of the scrollbar. X and y must be pixel coordinates relative to the scrollbar widget.
$scrollbar->set(first, last)

This command is invoked by the scrollbar's associated widget to tell the scrollbar about the current view in the widget. The command takes two arguments, each of which is a real fraction between 0 and 1. The fractions describe the range of the document that is visible in the associated widget. For example, if first is 0.2 and last is 0.4, it means that the first part of the document visible in the window is 20% of the way through the document, and the last visible part is 40% of the way through.

SCROLLING COMMANDS

When the user interacts with the scrollbar, for example by dragging the slider, the scrollbar notifies the associated widget that it must change its view. The scrollbar makes the notification by evaluating a callback specified as the scrollbar's -command option. The callback may take several forms. In each case, the intial arguments passed are those specified in the -command callback itself, which usually has a form like [yview => $widget]. (Which will invoke $widget->yview(...) where the ... part is as below. See the Tk::callbacks manpage for details.) The callback is passed additional arguments as follows:

moveto,fraction

Fraction is a real number between 0 and 1. The widget should adjust its view so that the point given by fraction appears at the beginning of the widget. If fraction is 0 it refers to the beginning of the document. 1.0 refers to the end of the document, 0.333 refers to a point one-third of the way through the document, and so on.
scroll,number,units

The widget should adjust its view by number units. The units are defined in whatever way makes sense for the widget, such as characters or lines in a text widget. Number is either 1, which means one unit should scroll off the top or left of the window, or -1, which means that one unit should scroll off the bottom or right of the window.
scroll,number,page

The widget should adjust its view by number pages. It is up to the widget to define the meaning of a page; typically it is slightly less than what fits in the window, so that there is a slight overlap between the old and new views. Number is either 1, which means the next page should become visible, or -1, which means that the previous page should become visible.

OLD COMMAND SYNTAX

In versions of Tk before 4.0, the set and get widget commands used a different form. This form is still supported for backward compatibility, but it is deprecated. In the old command syntax, the set method has the following form:

$scrollbar->set(totalUnits, windowUnits, firstUnit, lastUnit)

In this form the arguments are all integers. TotalUnits gives the total size of the object being displayed in the associated widget. The meaning of one unit depends on the associated widget; for example, in a text editor widget units might correspond to lines of text. WindowUnits indicates the total number of units that can fit in the associated window at one time. FirstUnit and lastUnit give the indices of the first and last units currently visible in the associated window (zero corresponds to the first unit of the object).

Under the old syntax the get method returns a list of four integers, consisting of the totalUnits, windowUnits, firstUnit, and lastUnit values from the last set method.

The callbacks generated by scrollbars also have a different form when the old syntax is being used, the callback is passed a single argument:

unit

Unit is an integer that indicates what should appear at the top or left of the associated widget's window. It has the same meaning as the firstUnit and lastUnit arguments to the set method.

The most recent set method determines whether or not to use the old syntax. If it is given two real arguments then the new syntax will be used in the future, and if it is given four integer arguments then the old syntax will be used.

BINDINGS

Tk automatically creates class bindings for scrollbars that give them the following default behavior. If the behavior is different for vertical and horizontal scrollbars, the horizontal behavior is described in parentheses.

[1]

Pressing button 1 over arrow1 causes the view in the associated widget to shift up (left) by one unit so that the document appears to move down (right) one unit. If the button is held down, the action auto-repeats.
[2]

Pressing button 1 over trough1 causes the view in the associated widget to shift up (left) by one screenful so that the document appears to move down (right) one screenful. If the button is held down, the action auto-repeats.
[3]

Pressing button 1 over the slider and dragging causes the view to drag with the slider. If the jump option is true, then the view doesn't drag along with the slider; it changes only when the mouse button is released.
[4]

Pressing button 1 over trough2 causes the view in the associated widget to shift down (right) by one screenful so that the document appears to move up (left) one screenful. If the button is held down, the action auto-repeats.
[5]

Pressing button 1 over arrow2 causes the view in the associated widget to shift down (right) by one unit so that the document appears to move up (left) one unit. If the button is held down, the action auto-repeats.
[6]

If button 2 is pressed over the trough or the slider, it sets the view to correspond to the mouse position; dragging the mouse with button 2 down causes the view to drag with the mouse. If button 2 is pressed over one of the arrows, it causes the same behavior as pressing button 1.
[7]

If button 1 is pressed with the Control key down, then if the mouse is over arrow1 or trough1 the view changes to the very top (left) of the document; if the mouse is over arrow2 or trough2 the view changes to the very bottom (right) of the document; if the mouse is anywhere else then the button press has no effect.
[8]

In vertical scrollbars the Up and Down keys have the same behavior as mouse clicks over arrow1 and arrow2, respectively. In horizontal scrollbars these keys have no effect.
[9]

In vertical scrollbars Control-Up and Control-Down have the same behavior as mouse clicks over trough1 and trough2, respectively. In horizontal scrollbars these keys have no effect.
[10]

In horizontal scrollbars the Up and Down keys have the same behavior as mouse clicks over arrow1 and arrow2, respectively. In vertical scrollbars these keys have no effect.
[11]

In horizontal scrollbars Control-Up and Control-Down have the same behavior as mouse clicks over trough1 and trough2, respectively. In vertical scrollbars these keys have no effect.
[12]

The Prior and Next keys have the same behavior as mouse clicks over trough1 and trough2, respectively.
[13]

The Home key adjusts the view to the top (left edge) of the document.
[14]

The End key adjusts the view to the bottom (right edge) of the document.

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se riesci a cavarci qualcosa tu..

[Lakaj]

Ehm...
come ?

Grazie, comunque ho risolto mettendo una label dentro una ScrollWindow a barra verticale... purtroppo non sono riuscito a trovare qualcosa di più elegante per quanto sia uscito pazzo e mi stavano ricoverando...
E' poco elegante perchè mi serviva più che altro un append. Devo aggiornare quella label frequentemente.

Con il gtk2 tra documentazione ed esempi è il buio totale,
io mi ero illuso fosse strutturato bene come il Javadoc
Risultato, per allestire 2 label e 4 casellette del * ci sono stato una nottata

La cosa che più da alla testa è che cercavo su google argomenti inerenti e mi uscivano solo il sito con la traccia del problema che devo risolvere e questo thread !

E' inutile, la roba open source è sempre roba open source

P.s.:Una classe TextArea no eh ? 'orco boia

[AngeL)]

Originariamente inviato da Lakaj

La cosa che più da alla testa è che cercavo su google argomenti inerenti e mi uscivano solo il sito con la traccia del problema che devo risolvere e questo thread !

documentazione fornitissima (comunque puoi usare quella del Tk... è quasi la stessa cosa)

[Lakaj]

Originariamente inviato da AngeL)

documentazione fornitissima (comunque puoi usare quella del Tk... è quasi la stessa cosa)

No, aspetta, in preda al panico, dissi, usiamo TK !
Lo pseudo-sito pseudo-ufficiale mi portava ad una pseudo-documentazione ancora più penosa, ma li non ho voluto approfondire...
In momenti di massima depressione ho usato esempi relativi al Tk in C++ (pensa te)

[AngeL)]

Originariamente inviato da Lakaj

No, aspetta, in preda al panico, dissi, usiamo TK !
Lo pseudo-sito pseudo-ufficiale mi portava ad una pseudo-documentazione ancora più penosa, ma li non ho voluto approfondire...
In momenti di massima depressione ho usato esempi relativi al Tk in C++ (pensa te)

fai una cosa, dalla cartella del perl (C:\Perl se non hai cambiato niente) vai in \html\lib\tk ... trovi tutta la documentazione del tk