diablos88
06-02-2005, 16:44
raga potete darmi dei giudizi sulla scheda madre gigabyte k8nf-9 nforce4
grazie
grazie
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Damar
06-02-2005, 17:17
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=gbnf44x&page=1
diablos88
06-02-2005, 17:25
si ok ma io cerco i consigli da parte di un possessore
Damar
06-02-2005, 18:24
Originariamente inviato da diablos88
si ok ma io cerco i consigli da parte di un possessore
Eh, ti capisco, ma su questa mobo non ci sono molte informazioni in altri topic... a quanto pare in generale ci si sta indirizzando su prodotti più costosi e SLI...
Io sarei interessato all'acquisto di questa mobo... ma ho bisogno di notizie! Dello SLI non mi importa e non ho esigenze di OC...
si ok ma io cerco i consigli da parte di un possessore
Eh, ti capisco, ma su questa mobo non ci sono molte informazioni in altri topic... a quanto pare in generale ci si sta indirizzando su prodotti più costosi e SLI...
Io sarei interessato all'acquisto di questa mobo... ma ho bisogno di notizie! Dello SLI non mi importa e non ho esigenze di OC...
diablos88
06-02-2005, 18:28
anche chi spende d+ non prendo lo sli la mobo che tira bene è la dfi lanparty ultra e non sli, cmq ho ordinato la gigabyte chissà come sarà
peitro
06-02-2005, 19:27
ciao ,io ho questa scheda presa in germania 74 E, x la mia modesta competenza è stabilissima ,su vari topik e su vari test che ho letto è pure piu' performante della ultra ,su c'è un winchester 3200+ che a frequenze di default(2000 mgh) sta a 21 gradi ,a 2300 mgh a 29 gradi ,memoria bloccata a 200 sono Adata,e non vorrei bruciarle,
Qusto è interessante leggete:
I was replying to someone elses post with my experiences with the board, but since I'm writing up a decent amount I may as well put it in it's own thread for those interested in the board.
I've actually been quite pleasantly surprised with the board, I really wan't expecting much more then a mediocre stopgap solution until decent nForce 4 Ultra solutions became available.
I've had no stability issues at all, and surprisingly enough it runs perfectly with 4GB of RAM at 2-2-10-2-2 at PC3200.
Performance should of course be sign identical to NF4 Ultra boards, as the 800MHz HTT limitation is pretty much a moot point, given that the performance difference is nonexistent. Being limited to 1.5Gb/s SATA is of course no limitation as even 15K RPM SCSI solutions aren't utilizing that kind of bandwidth let alone consumer SATA drives.
The BIOS options while not the best I've seen are certainly well above average. Extremely DIMM timing adjustment, that should be easily more then adequate for anyone.
CPU bus frequency can be adjusted in 1MHz increments up to 400MHz... though of course no board would ever have a prayer of actually hitting 400MHz bus but that's beside the point.
PCI/PCI-E buses are locked, and manually adjustable in 1MHz increments as well.
Clock multiplier is adjustable as one would expect. HTT multiplier is adjustable as well.
You have some limited ability to o/c the graphcs card core/mem clock, though frankly I'd just disable then and overclock the graphics card manually, as I'm not fond of motherboards bumping up the graphics card clockspeed by some indeterminate amount.
CPU voltage is adjustable from 1.1V to 1.75V, in .25V increments from 1.1V up to 1.55, and .5V increments thereafter which should be perfectly adequate unless your venturing into extreme cooling.
PCI-E bus voltage can be adjusted up to + 0.3V, HTT link voltage is also adjustable up to + 0.3V as well.
DDR voltage is adjustable up to + 0.2V... not as high as some extreme memory modules might like, but decent.
All considered the BIOS flexibility is quite good, and he board is completely stable even at very strenuous RAM timings with all banks filled. It performs as one would expect, I've had no performance issues with it.
The current BIOS does seem to have an intermittant issue with PS/2 keyboards not detecting properly, which I've seen mentioned on a few forums. Not as issue for me, as I use a USB keyboard but worth keeping in mind if your using a legacy PS/2 keyboard until a BIOS update fixes it.
The board overclockes extremely well, better then some high end NF3 boards would overclock.
I've had the board up to 286MHz HTT stable, I've yet to test it beyond that but even if that's the absolute limit which I'm inclined to doubt it should provide more then adequate room to heavily overclock any S939 A64.
The boards feature set is merely passable, but decent for it's intended market segment.
2X UDMA 133 ports/4X SATA ports. 3X IEEE 1394b ports, and up to 10 USB 2.0 ports. 1 CICADA8201 Gigabit Ethernet port. 3X PCI, 2X PCI-E 1X, and 1X PCI-E 16X ports. The onboard audio is pretty much average, using the Realtek ALC850 codec.
4 USB 2.0 ports provided on the backpanel, with an adapter provided to plug in to utilize more. You'll need to purchase a connector to utilize the IEEE 1394b ports however.
24pin PSU connector, but the board works fine with only a 20pin PSU as well.
How one prefers a motherboard to be laid out, is bound to differ from person to person but I'm not terrible enthusiastic about the motherboard layout myself.
linky
You can examine the layout on Gigabyte's site, so I won't comment to much on it here.
I do like the locations of the ATX +12V connector at the upper left corner just behind the backpanel PS/2 keyboard/mouse connector.
I've never been pleased with boards that position the main 24pin ATX connector right beside the FDD connector on the left side of the board as this one does though.
With some rather large capacitors right around the CPU socket, the board may not cope well with some overly large OEM HeatSinks, though you should have sufficient clearance for most.
The single system fan connector is located at the bottom right corner of the board, not my ideal location as I'd prefer it above the first PCI-E slot towards the middle of the board but others may feel differently.
The SATA/PATA ports are all placed exactly where I'd like them, no qualms there.
The extra USB connectors are all placed nicely, as are the IEEE 1394 connectors.
The clear CMS jumper is located beside the SATA connectors.
The case front panel connections are all clearly identified on the motherboard.
A longer PCI-E X16 graphics card will hang over the HSF covering the NF4 chipset without much clearance at all, so you'll be hard pressed to get a better HSF on it.
Thankfully the HSF used is decent, it seems to cool adequately and isn't particularly obtrusive at all with the case closed.
The HTT ratio set at 2X may not be well optimized for overclocking yet, as I'm only able to hit 280MHz bus with the HTT multiplier at 2X, whereas I've tested up to 3X at 286MHz bus.
The supposed limitation of 800MHz HTT doesn't seem to hurt much, without bumping up the HTT link voltag at all I can use the 4X multiplier up to a 254MHz bus speed which equates to 1016MHz HTT bus.
With the HTT Link voltage set to + .3V, I can use the 4X multipler up to 268MHz bus... a 1072MHz HTT bus speed, well in excess of the A2 revision NF4 chipset, and above that of the A3 revision used on NF4 Ultra/SLI boards.
Given the price point the board is selling at and the relatively limited alternatives I'm am quite pleased with it, and it seems like it should be a very solid option for those that don't mind the average feature set.
se avete domande o esperimenti da fare, anzi qualche consiglio su come spingerla un po'.
ciao
pietro
Qusto è interessante leggete:
I was replying to someone elses post with my experiences with the board, but since I'm writing up a decent amount I may as well put it in it's own thread for those interested in the board.
I've actually been quite pleasantly surprised with the board, I really wan't expecting much more then a mediocre stopgap solution until decent nForce 4 Ultra solutions became available.
I've had no stability issues at all, and surprisingly enough it runs perfectly with 4GB of RAM at 2-2-10-2-2 at PC3200.
Performance should of course be sign identical to NF4 Ultra boards, as the 800MHz HTT limitation is pretty much a moot point, given that the performance difference is nonexistent. Being limited to 1.5Gb/s SATA is of course no limitation as even 15K RPM SCSI solutions aren't utilizing that kind of bandwidth let alone consumer SATA drives.
The BIOS options while not the best I've seen are certainly well above average. Extremely DIMM timing adjustment, that should be easily more then adequate for anyone.
CPU bus frequency can be adjusted in 1MHz increments up to 400MHz... though of course no board would ever have a prayer of actually hitting 400MHz bus but that's beside the point.
PCI/PCI-E buses are locked, and manually adjustable in 1MHz increments as well.
Clock multiplier is adjustable as one would expect. HTT multiplier is adjustable as well.
You have some limited ability to o/c the graphcs card core/mem clock, though frankly I'd just disable then and overclock the graphics card manually, as I'm not fond of motherboards bumping up the graphics card clockspeed by some indeterminate amount.
CPU voltage is adjustable from 1.1V to 1.75V, in .25V increments from 1.1V up to 1.55, and .5V increments thereafter which should be perfectly adequate unless your venturing into extreme cooling.
PCI-E bus voltage can be adjusted up to + 0.3V, HTT link voltage is also adjustable up to + 0.3V as well.
DDR voltage is adjustable up to + 0.2V... not as high as some extreme memory modules might like, but decent.
All considered the BIOS flexibility is quite good, and he board is completely stable even at very strenuous RAM timings with all banks filled. It performs as one would expect, I've had no performance issues with it.
The current BIOS does seem to have an intermittant issue with PS/2 keyboards not detecting properly, which I've seen mentioned on a few forums. Not as issue for me, as I use a USB keyboard but worth keeping in mind if your using a legacy PS/2 keyboard until a BIOS update fixes it.
The board overclockes extremely well, better then some high end NF3 boards would overclock.
I've had the board up to 286MHz HTT stable, I've yet to test it beyond that but even if that's the absolute limit which I'm inclined to doubt it should provide more then adequate room to heavily overclock any S939 A64.
The boards feature set is merely passable, but decent for it's intended market segment.
2X UDMA 133 ports/4X SATA ports. 3X IEEE 1394b ports, and up to 10 USB 2.0 ports. 1 CICADA8201 Gigabit Ethernet port. 3X PCI, 2X PCI-E 1X, and 1X PCI-E 16X ports. The onboard audio is pretty much average, using the Realtek ALC850 codec.
4 USB 2.0 ports provided on the backpanel, with an adapter provided to plug in to utilize more. You'll need to purchase a connector to utilize the IEEE 1394b ports however.
24pin PSU connector, but the board works fine with only a 20pin PSU as well.
How one prefers a motherboard to be laid out, is bound to differ from person to person but I'm not terrible enthusiastic about the motherboard layout myself.
linky
You can examine the layout on Gigabyte's site, so I won't comment to much on it here.
I do like the locations of the ATX +12V connector at the upper left corner just behind the backpanel PS/2 keyboard/mouse connector.
I've never been pleased with boards that position the main 24pin ATX connector right beside the FDD connector on the left side of the board as this one does though.
With some rather large capacitors right around the CPU socket, the board may not cope well with some overly large OEM HeatSinks, though you should have sufficient clearance for most.
The single system fan connector is located at the bottom right corner of the board, not my ideal location as I'd prefer it above the first PCI-E slot towards the middle of the board but others may feel differently.
The SATA/PATA ports are all placed exactly where I'd like them, no qualms there.
The extra USB connectors are all placed nicely, as are the IEEE 1394 connectors.
The clear CMS jumper is located beside the SATA connectors.
The case front panel connections are all clearly identified on the motherboard.
A longer PCI-E X16 graphics card will hang over the HSF covering the NF4 chipset without much clearance at all, so you'll be hard pressed to get a better HSF on it.
Thankfully the HSF used is decent, it seems to cool adequately and isn't particularly obtrusive at all with the case closed.
The HTT ratio set at 2X may not be well optimized for overclocking yet, as I'm only able to hit 280MHz bus with the HTT multiplier at 2X, whereas I've tested up to 3X at 286MHz bus.
The supposed limitation of 800MHz HTT doesn't seem to hurt much, without bumping up the HTT link voltag at all I can use the 4X multiplier up to a 254MHz bus speed which equates to 1016MHz HTT bus.
With the HTT Link voltage set to + .3V, I can use the 4X multipler up to 268MHz bus... a 1072MHz HTT bus speed, well in excess of the A2 revision NF4 chipset, and above that of the A3 revision used on NF4 Ultra/SLI boards.
Given the price point the board is selling at and the relatively limited alternatives I'm am quite pleased with it, and it seems like it should be a very solid option for those that don't mind the average feature set.
se avete domande o esperimenti da fare, anzi qualche consiglio su come spingerla un po'.
ciao
pietro
diablos88
06-02-2005, 19:33
scusa puoi sintetizzare in italiano quello che hai scritto, 74 euro scusa ma è l'nforce3 no la 4 giusto? anch'io dovrei prendere il winchester 3200 e come dissy ho lo zalman 7000, la ram la devo ancora prendre ma credo di prendere 2 a-data vitesta,a quanto potrei salire?
peitro
06-02-2005, 20:05
sintetizzando ,dice che va molto meglio nv 3 250 x quello che riguarda overclok,che lui la ha portata a 280 di fsb e che era stabilissima a queste frequenze,le a-data sono le memorie che ho io ,ma a quanto ne so io non nascono x essere overcloccate,io blocco la memoria da bios a 200 e alzo il fsb ,ma in realta vorrei sapere anchio quanto salgono ,x poterle usare in sincrono.
ovviamente parliamo scheda madre gigabyte k8nf-9 nforce4 (74 E),a quanto ho letto,va meglio della ultra e della sli.
ciao
ovviamente parliamo scheda madre gigabyte k8nf-9 nforce4 (74 E),a quanto ho letto,va meglio della ultra e della sli.
ciao
diablos88
06-02-2005, 20:13
in italia costa 30 euro in +
Damar
06-02-2005, 20:18
Originariamente inviato da diablos88
in italia costa 30 euro in +
Anche le altre però...
in italia costa 30 euro in +
Anche le altre però...
peitro
06-02-2005, 20:26
il winchester 3200+ boxato un mese fa l'ho preso 174 E,e la 6600 gt aopen aeolus 200,che si clocca stabilmente a 580 mgh di core
diablos88
06-02-2005, 20:42
il winchester sempre in germania lo hai preso vero? qua il tuo prezzo è quello tray
peitro
06-02-2005, 20:59
ora + a 164 E
Damar
06-02-2005, 21:20
Insomma... da quel che ho letto questa mobo sembra essere meglio di una Asus A8N-SLI se non hai necessità di usare lo SLI... Nei benchmark supera la Asus soprattutto in giochi come HL2 e Far Cry... :rolleyes:
diablos88
06-02-2005, 21:31
ma in overclock tira bene?
Damar
06-02-2005, 22:46
Originariamente inviato da diablos88
ma in overclock tira bene?
Probabilmente se si vuole fare OC "serio" bisogna orientarsi su altre schede...
ma in overclock tira bene?
Probabilmente se si vuole fare OC "serio" bisogna orientarsi su altre schede...
diablos88
07-02-2005, 19:01
ok serio come gare, ma fare del semplice overclock che un dissypatore ad aria zalman permette è possibile? con che risultati?
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