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Redazione di Hardware Upg
07-01-2019, 16:41
Link alla notizia: https://auto.hwupgrade.it/news/tecnologia/polestar-la-risposta-di-volvo-alla-tesla-model-3_79997.html

Le case automobilistiche tradizionali stanno reagendo alle novità introdotte sul mercato dell'elettrico da Tesla, con l'obiettivo di colmare il gap il più presto possibile e ripristinare così le vecchie gerarchie

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Ragerino
07-01-2019, 16:45
Se non arriva la risposta elettrica alla panda, hai voglia a vendere auto elettriche al popolo a 40k a botta.

gigioracing
07-01-2019, 17:47
Se non arriva la risposta elettrica alla panda, hai voglia a vendere auto elettriche al popolo a 40k a botta.

esatto . cmq 40k e una cifra alla portata di un impiegato medio , gia molto meglio dei 60 70 mila della tesla

D69
07-01-2019, 19:44
prima cosa complimenti a chi ha fatto l'articolo, trovare una foto peggiore di quella pubblicata era davvero un'impresa, peraltro riuscita benissimo... l'importante è che sia teaser, non che si veda di che mazza stiamo parlando


seconda cosa 40 cucuzzuli... beh... l'impiegato medio se la compri pure, gliela lascio, io aspetto le cinesi da 4k euri

bye

tommy781
07-01-2019, 20:27
"esatto . cmq 40k e una cifra alla portata di un impiegato medio , gia molto meglio dei 60 70 mila della tesla" .... IO sono un impiegato medio, porto a casa 1500 euro netti al mese e 40.000 per una auto di sicuro non li ho. Quando costerà 20.000-25.000 allora sarà alla portata del popolo normale, sopra è per chi vive senza grossi problemi o con due stipendi da 2.000 netti al mese ciascuno.

NickNaylor
07-01-2019, 21:24
Se non arriva la risposta elettrica alla panda, hai voglia a vendere auto elettriche al popolo a 40k a botta.

è appena uscita questa molto interessante ora r1 (https://www.alvolante.it/news/ora-r1-cina-piccola-elettrica-citta-360860) anche se il classico giornalismo italiano spara p-ttanate per sport ( non costa 7600 euro). ci sono circa 7000 euro di incentivi sulle macchine elettriche in cina e l'iva è attorno al 15 se non sbaglio, meno i 6000 di incentivo italiano siamo a livello di una utilitaria se la importassero.
qua ti metto anche il video
https://youtu.be/5W19c_DueoQ

Dinofly
08-01-2019, 01:22
Senza considerare i risparmi di manutenzione e benzina.
Se il veicolo viene utilizzato 8-10 anni siamo nell:'ordine di un'altra decina di migliaia di euro.

fmf67
08-01-2019, 01:39
China’s “Cheapest Electric Car” — The ORA-R1 — May Cost Around $28,000
January 8, 2019 by Ronald Brakels Leave a Comment
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Does this electric car really cost less than $13,000? Err, unfortunately no.

Great Wall Motors has has released the electric ORA R1 passenger car in China. Or at least I think they have.

I can’t be certain because the Great Wall Motors website has no information about it in any of my favorite languages.1 Fortunately, they put out a press release so I can be certain it’s not a hoax by a bored graphics designer. But even if it was a hoax there are now so many articles on the internet about it that enough belief has probably been generated to will the EV into existence like an electric vehicle version of Leonardo Dicaprio’s acting talent.

By poking around on the internet I was able to discover the EV was developed as a joint venture with BMW . But it seems most people writing about the ORA R1 have been unwilling to do even a minimal amount of poking because most of the eleventy billion2 or so articles I’ve seen on it are chock full of bullshit. This bullshit includes claims that…

It’s the cheapest electric car in the world — this is complete bullshit.
It’s the cheapest electric car in China — absolute bullshit.
Its range is 320km — bullshit, but bullshit that started with Great Wall Motors.
Its cost is $12,230 to $15,910 in China — This may be the price people pay in China but because it’s heavily subsidised the total cost is much higher.

The vehicle will only be sold in China but BMW appears to be planning to produce something similar this year, though I’m sure their version will have a more powerful motor. Some technical details of the Chinese vehicle are:

It has a 33 kilowatt-hour battery pack.
When its battery pack is flat it can be “supercharged” from 0% to 80% in 40 minutes.
Its small motor can only provide 35 kilowatts of power to the wheels.
Its top speed is around 100 km/h
Its real world range may be 240km.

Just how much the car receives in national and local subsidies is difficult to determine but it may be about $14,000. This makes the electric car’s total cost around $26,000 to $30,000.

fmf67
08-01-2019, 01:42
https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/motori/2018-01-31/volvo-arriva-berlina-elettrica-debutto-2019-070903.shtml?uuid=AEW71srD&refresh_ce=1

NickNaylor
08-01-2019, 16:27
China’s “Cheapest Electric Car” — The ORA-R1 — May Cost Around $28,000
January 8, 2019 by Ronald Brakels Leave a Comment
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ora-r1

Does this electric car really cost less than $13,000? Err, unfortunately no.

Great Wall Motors has has released the electric ORA R1 passenger car in China. Or at least I think they have.

I can’t be certain because the Great Wall Motors website has no information about it in any of my favorite languages.1 Fortunately, they put out a press release so I can be certain it’s not a hoax by a bored graphics designer. But even if it was a hoax there are now so many articles on the internet about it that enough belief has probably been generated to will the EV into existence like an electric vehicle version of Leonardo Dicaprio’s acting talent.

By poking around on the internet I was able to discover the EV was developed as a joint venture with BMW . But it seems most people writing about the ORA R1 have been unwilling to do even a minimal amount of poking because most of the eleventy billion2 or so articles I’ve seen on it are chock full of bullshit. This bullshit includes claims that…

It’s the cheapest electric car in the world — this is complete bullshit.
It’s the cheapest electric car in China — absolute bullshit.
Its range is 320km — bullshit, but bullshit that started with Great Wall Motors.
Its cost is $12,230 to $15,910 in China — This may be the price people pay in China but because it’s heavily subsidised the total cost is much higher.

The vehicle will only be sold in China but BMW appears to be planning to produce something similar this year, though I’m sure their version will have a more powerful motor. Some technical details of the Chinese vehicle are:

It has a 33 kilowatt-hour battery pack.
When its battery pack is flat it can be “supercharged” from 0% to 80% in 40 minutes.
Its small motor can only provide 35 kilowatts of power to the wheels.
Its top speed is around 100 km/h
Its real world range may be 240km.

Just how much the car receives in national and local subsidies is difficult to determine but it may be about $14,000. This makes the electric car’s total cost around $26,000 to $30,000.

il prezzo in cina senza sovvenzioni è da 114800 yuan a 137800, quindi base parte convertita in euro 14600 a 17600 ( la differenza è nel tempo di ricarica e accessori). le sovvenzioni in cina sulla macchina sono 60000 yuan cioè 7650 euro.
lo dico perchè anche io avevo sentito odore di bufala subito e sono andato a vedermi il loro sito in cinese appena l'avevo letta, comunque booh, non capisco da dove dovrebbe saltar fuori un 30000 dollari da un prezzo del genere, pure la smart costa meno e di certo è meglio.