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mds16
06-07-2012, 10:20
Ciao ragazzi,
Dopo giorni di prove inutili mi rivolgo a voi. Continuo ad avere sul PC in firma bsod, freeze, riavvii, spesso lo schermo rimane nero e l'audio in sound loop, a volte ancora il monitor si riempie di righe. Memtest non da alcun errore, sistema windows 7 64bit appena installato, driver ultimi, bios aggiornato. Il problema si manifesta in maniera del tutto casuale. Tutti i pezzi sono stati testati singolarmente in altra macchina e nessuno presenta particolari problemi. La scheda madre inviata in RMA è stata classificata come perfettamente funzionante.

Vi elenco le prove effettuare sul PC in firma:
1. Ho provato a utilizzare coppie di banchi diversi, il problema persiste

2. Ho disattivato XMP mandando le ram a 1600Mhz, si può forse dire che il problema è meno frequente, ma data la sua natura casuale non ho elementi per provarlo.

3. Ho provato ad aumentare VTT, da 1.076 fino a 1.104, RAM Voltage da 1,5 a 1,6, il problema persiste.

4. Ho provato a settare manualmente le latenze nel bios, il problema persiste.

Non riesco davvero a venirne a capo. Ho letto su qualche forum simili problemi giudicati causati dai driver della scheda video HD 7870 e in generale le serie 7700 7800 7900, mai possibile? C'è anche da dire che conosco persone con altre 7870 che non hanno il mio stesso problema.

Qualcuno ha qualche idea? Ringrazio in anticipo.
milkyway
06-07-2012, 11:13
Da quello che si legge in giro sui forum dovrebbe essere un problema di catalyst.
Io da quando ho messo i 12.6 non ho più problemi, ma ho avuto poco tempo per testare giocando (per qualsiasi altro utilizzo che non sia il gioco non ho mai avuto problemi).
Ti rimando a questo thread: http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2474884
ciao
mds16
06-07-2012, 12:56
Ho già provato sia i driver 12.6 Final che i 12.7beta ma non risolvono il problema, tuttavia il problema sembra verificarsi con minor frequenza. Può succedere che non si presenti per ore e ore di gioco, ma che si ripresenti magari più volte nell'arco di poco tempo. Spesso i freeze avvengono anche in idle.

Vi posto l'xml relativo all'errore critico presente nell'event viewer di windows:


- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>63</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-05-21T15:26:31.685602000Z" />
<EventRecordID>16918</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>nautilus</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data Name="BugcheckCode">0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="SleepInProgress">false</Data>
<Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
Rox55
06-07-2012, 14:20
...hai provato con un'altra scheda video?
Eress
06-07-2012, 14:43
Tutti i pezzi sono stati testati singolarmente in altra macchina e nessuno presenta particolari problemi
Il problema sta proprio qui, quando vengono combinati insieme in un auto assemblaggio :asd:
mds16
06-07-2012, 21:53
Eress.. è proprio ciò che pensavo.. ma mi sembra una cosa assurda.
Cosa posso fare?
mds16
07-07-2012, 11:22
Ho provato ad installare driver non ufficiali da rage3d. Nessun crash dopo 6 ore di Crysis 2, che con i 12.6 Ufficiali freezava spessissimo. Tuttavia esco dal gioco, dopo pochi minuti BSOD in idle. A questo punto penso veramente possa trattarsi di un problema di driver. Maledetta AMD.
mds16
08-07-2012, 14:12
Ho deciso in fine di mettere mano all'xml di configurazione del driver e disabilitare quante più inutili funzioni possibili.

Per chi come me presenta il problema di crash dovuti a bug dei driver AMD nella gestione dei cloak e dei voltaggi per le serie 7800 7900 7700 consiglio di modificare il file profile.xml in C:\Users\mds\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE disabilitando 3dto2dpulldown, mettendo frequenze e voltaggi sempre al massimo in idle e in full load, disabilitare cod aod god, mettere le ventole in manuale ad una percentuale superiore al 50%.

Copio il mio file xml:


<Profile>
<Caste name="Graphics">
<Feature name="DisplayDetection">
<Property name="DisplayDetection_Control" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Adapter name="PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;1CDA0A78&amp;0&amp;0008A">
<Feature name="SplitDisplay" />
<Aspect name="DisplaysColour2">
<Feature name="ATIMode_Desktop">
<Property name="ATIMode_Desktop" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Desktop">
<Property name="Desktop" value="Gamma_Red:1;Gamma_Green:1;Gamma_Blue:1;Brightness_Red:0;Brightness_Green:0;Brightness_Blue:0;Contrast_Red:100;Contrast_Green:100;Contrast_Blue:100;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="LUT_Desktop">
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</Feature>
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.1">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.2">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.3">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.4">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.5">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="DeviceDFP.6">
<Feature name="DeviceDFPLcdOverdrive">
<Property name="EnabledControl" value="False" />
<Property name="CalibrationControl" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DeviceDFPColourCorrection" />
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="Overdrive5" />
<Aspect name="Radeon3D">
<Feature name="Main3D">
<Property name="Main3D" value="CusSelection" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="AntiAlias">
<Property name="AntiAlias" value="On" />
<Property name="AntiAliasSamples" value="8" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="AnisoType">
<Property name="AnisoType" value="App" />
<Property name="AnisoDegree" value="16" />
<Property name="AreaAniso" value="Disable" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="VSyncControl">
<Property name="VSyncControl" value="On" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="EnableTripleBuffering">
<Property name="EnableTripleBuffering" value="Disable" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CatalystAI">
<Property name="CatalystAI" value="Enable" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="AAF">
<Property name="AAF" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="ASE">
<Property name="ASTT" value="Enable" />
<Property name="ASD" value="Quality" />
<Property name="ASE" value="SS" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MLF">
<Property name="MLF" value="Disable" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="SurfaceFormatReplacements">
<Property name="SurfaceFormatReplacements" value="Enable" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="TFQ">
<Property name="TFQ" value="Quality" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="EQAA">
<Property name="EQAA" value="Enhance" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Tessellation">
<Property name="Tessellation_AMDOptimize" value="Disable" />
<Property name="Tessellation_UseAppSettings" value="Enable" />
<Property name="Tessellation" value="64" />
</Feature>
</Aspect>
<Aspect name="MMVideo">
<Feature name="MainVideo">
<Property name="MainVideo" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="VideoVision">
<Property name="VideoVision_brightness" value="0" />
<Property name="VideoVision_contrast" value="1" />
<Property name="VideoVision_saturation" value="1" />
<Property name="VideoVision_hue" value="0" />
<Property name="VideoVision_appdecide" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Deinterlacing">
<Property name="Deinterlacing_Deinterlacing" value="-1" />
<Property name="Deinterlacing_EnableDeinterlacing" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="OverridePA">
<Property name="OverridePA" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="3to2Pulldown">
<Property name="3to2Pulldown" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="BlueStretch">
<Property name="BlueStretch" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="dynamicContrast">
<Property name="dynamicContrast" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Detail">
<Property name="Detail_Detail" value="10" />
<Property name="Detail_EnableDetail" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Denoise">
<Property name="Denoise_Denoise" value="64" />
<Property name="Denoise_EnableDenoise" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FleshTone">
<Property name="FleshTone_FleshTone" value="50" />
<Property name="FleshTone_EnableFleshTone" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="ColorVibrance">
<Property name="ColorVibrance_ColorVibrance" value="40" />
<Property name="ColorVibrance_EnableColorVibrance" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="StaticGamma">
<Property name="StaticGamma_StaticGamma" value="100" />
<Property name="StaticGamma_EnableStaticGamma" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="DynamicRange">
<Property name="DynamicRange_DynamicRange" value="0" />
<Property name="DynamicRange_EnableDynamicRange" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MosquitoNoiseRemoval">
<Property name="MosquitoNoiseRemoval_MosquitoNoiseRemoval" value="50" />
<Property name="MosquitoNoiseRemoval_EnableMosquitoRemovalNoise" value="True" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="Deblocking">
<Property name="Deblocking_Deblocking" value="50" />
<Property name="Deblocking_EnableDeblocking" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="InternetVideo">
<Property name="InternetVideo" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CameraShake">
<Property name="CameraShake" value="FeatureName=CameraShake&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=False&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CSStrength">
<Property name="CSStrength" value="FeatureName=CSStrength&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=True&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=1&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CSDelay">
<Property name="CSDelay" value="FeatureName=CSDelay&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=True&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=1&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CSZoom">
<Property name="CSZoom" value="FeatureName=CSZoom&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=True&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=95&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CS2Simple">
<Property name="CS2Simple" value="FeatureName=CS2Simple&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=True&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=1&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CS2SideBySide">
<Property name="CS2SideBySide" value="FeatureName=CS2SideBySide&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=False&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CS2DispLogo">
<Property name="CS2DispLogo" value="FeatureName=CS2DispLogo&#xD;&#xA;BCurrent=False&#xD;&#xA;ICurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;FCurrent=0&#xD;&#xA;EnumStates=0&#xD;&#xA;" />
</Feature>
</Aspect>
</Adapter>
<Groups>
<Group name="Overdrive5">
<Feature name="TimeUnlocked" />
<Feature name="AutoTuneSupport" />
<Feature name="CoreClockTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want_0" value="105000" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="105000" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="PowerControl_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MemoryClockTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want_0" value="120000" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="120000" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="CoreVoltageTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want_0" value="1219" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="1219" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MemoryVoltageTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want_0" value="0" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedProtocol_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="FanSpeedProtocolProperty" value="Percent" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want" value="1210" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_PCI_VEN_1002&amp;DEV_6818&amp;SUBSYS_23211787&amp;REV_00_4&amp;10C350E0&amp;0&amp;00E0A">
<Property name="Want" value="90" />
</Feature>
</Group>
</Groups>
</Caste>
<Caste name="Platform">
<Adapter name="PlatformAdapterUDID">
<Aspect name="AMDOverDrive">
<Feature name="AMDOverDriveEnableAOD">
<Property name="AMDOverDriveEnableAOD_Control" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="AMDOverDriveEnableCOD">
<Property name="AMDOverDriveEnableCOD_Control" value="False" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="AMDOverDriveEnableGOD">
<Property name="AMDOverDriveEnableGOD_Control" value="False" />
</Feature>
</Aspect>
</Adapter>
<Groups />
</Caste>
</Profile>


Dopo queste modifiche non ho crash da 24 ore, anche dopo intense sessioni di gioco. Mi sembra veramente inconcepibile rilasciare una scheda video, trall'altro di fascia medio-alta (costa ben 330 euro) con driver a questo stato di sviluppo, non prenderò mai più prodotti AMD.