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xcdegasp
09-02-2009, 12:22
ersa du qualche giorno che notavo allert strani a video quando era aperto pidgin però non essendo al monitor in quell'istante in cui capitava non capivo la relazione e il meccanismo almeno fino a ieri sera..

ieri sera si era connesso un utente xxxxx ( dove le x sono un numero) che avevo in lista per la rete icq, mi manda subito un messaggio con testo formattato male come fosse di provenienza cinese o comunque orientale e in quel momento contestualmente è arrivato un allert dell'antivirus (antivir PE) che aveva bloccato la connessione verso un dominio malevolo (HEUR/HTML.Malware) e contestaulmente un pop-up con "connessione fallita verso il domio ...."

quello che vorrei sapere è come ha fatto un utente della mia lista contatti a dirottare o attivare una connessione https dal mio pc verso un dominio.

Come programma per la connessione uso pidgin con abbassamento dei privilegi via OnlineArmor, ieri sera non c'era attivo il controllo di interazione tra programmi, antivir PE, asquared-pro (senza l'attivazione del modulo di scansione web), superantispiware-pro

qualcuno sa darmi una spiegazione logica?

ps: uso winXP

W.S.
09-02-2009, 12:32
Falla in pidgin? E' aggiornato?

xcdegasp
09-02-2009, 15:06
non mi segnalava nuove versioni quindi presumo di sì, mi sembra sia la 3.6.4 :)

Gianky....! :D :)
09-02-2009, 15:18
non mi segnalava nuove versioni quindi presumo di sì, mi sembra sia la 3.6.4 :)

Xcdegasp , Hacked, questa non me la aspettavo :D

xcdegasp
09-02-2009, 17:32
Xcdegasp , Hacked, questa non me la aspettavo :D

hacked ma con insuccesso del mittente :D

mi aveva incuriosito il meccanismo anche perchè non so nemmeno chi sia e quando l'ho o si è aggiunto :D

W.S.
09-02-2009, 17:36
Che sia uno 0Day? Riesci a replicarlo e sniffare la trasmissione? Giusto per capire cosa è quella roba in caratteri strani che ti arriva.

Potrebbe essere un simpatico scherzo del contatto? (immagino sia + probabile che sia infetto da qualcosa)

W.S.
09-02-2009, 17:38
... non so nemmeno chi sia e quando l'ho o si è aggiunto :D
d'ho, maledetta connessione, leggo i post e rispondo in differita :D

eraser
09-02-2009, 17:54
Sarebbe utile conoscere l'indirizzo web che ha tentato di raggiungere.

Inoltre potresti installare Comodo Memory Firewall, potrebbe trattarsi di un exploit. In tal caso te ne accorgi

xcdegasp
09-02-2009, 18:17
Che sia uno 0Day? Riesci a replicarlo e sniffare la trasmissione? Giusto per capire cosa è quella roba in caratteri strani che ti arriva.

Potrebbe essere un simpatico scherzo del contatto? (immagino sia + probabile che sia infetto da qualcosa)

è come fosse un messaggio ma stranamente apre una connessione...
riporto qui i testi:

Conversation with XXXXXXXXX at 08/02/2009 22.22.45 on 107222167 (icq)
(22.22.45) XXXXXXXXX: Çà äÃ*èöû moya-podruga(òî÷êà )ru 72487


Conversation with XXXXXXXXX at 01/02/2009 17.59.51 on 107222167 (icq)
(17.59.51) XXXXXXXXX: à å ñîìÃ*åâà éñÿ Ã*è ñåêóÃ*äû! sexprazdnik(òî÷êà )ru 23814


Conversation with XXXXXXXXX at 18/01/2009 20.41.46 on 107222167 (icq)
(20.41.46) XXXXXXXXX: à å òðà òü âðåìÿ âïóñòóþ! xxxtaina(òî÷êà )ru 79948



ieri sera puntava a questo sito: hxxp://www.businesscompany.it/
il 27/01/2009 hxxp://expocomm.com/vocabolario-italiano-online.html
il 25/01/2009 hxxp://www.giovaniartisti.it

riazzituoi
09-02-2009, 19:39
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xcdegasp
10-02-2009, 08:27
in queste sere spero di ottenere log più significativi di cio che accade.. anche perchè fino a che non abbiamo più dati di come possa avvenire non posso nemmeno replicarlo :(

W.S.
10-02-2009, 09:42
in queste sere spero di ottenere log più significativi di cio che accade.. anche perchè fino a che non abbiamo più dati di come possa avvenire non posso nemmeno replicarlo :(

Se riesci a "cogliere l'attimo" sarebbe interessante vedere tutti i pacchetti coinvolti, immagino che quello che appare nella chat sia solo una parte. Tramite il dump di uno sniffer potremmo vedere in esadecimale e capire se ti arriva codice eseguibile o comunque capire cosa c'è di diverso rispetto ad un messaggio sano.

xcdegasp
10-02-2009, 12:19
stasse installo uno sniffer e cercherò di accorciare i tempi per rimetetre up la workstation debian con virtualizzato xp che possiede solo antivirus così attivando lì la rete icq posso avere un preda gustosa da lasciarla in pasto per moltissime ore :)

eraser
10-02-2009, 13:15
il primo e l'ultimo sono infetti

Il primo è il classico dropper per il MBR rootkit

@Sirio@
12-02-2009, 18:01
Forse si tratta di uno 0 day che permette di eseguire codice html



il primo e l'ultimo sono infetti

Il primo è il classico dropper per il MBR rootkit

Scusate l'ignoranza, ma come fate a controllare che un URL sia infetto? :fagiano:

Ho provato con un link scanner il primo URL, ma me lo da come pulito :confused:

Forse guardando il codice sorgente della pag.?

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//IT">

<html>
<head>
<title>Consulenza e servizi di manutenzione ed assistenza tecnica - Business Company</title>

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="keywords" content="estensione di garanzia, assistenza tecnica, assistenza in garanzia, riparazione in garanzia, vendita elettronica, elettronica di consumo, regolamento di garanzia, durata della garanzia, assistenza post vendita, manutenzione, business company salerno, aziende elettronica di consumo, elettronica di consumo">
<meta name="description" content="Business Company, offre consulenza globale nella gestione dei processi di manutenzione ed assistenza tecnica e nella soluzione di criticità commerciali, legali e fiscali per aziende dell’Information Technology e Consumer Electronics">
<meta name="Author" content="Public Image - [email protected]">
<meta name="robots" content="All">
<meta http-equiv="content-language" content="it">
<meta name="Identifier-URL" content="http://www.businesscompany.it">
<meta name="Reply to" content="[email protected]">
<meta name="Distribution" content="global">
<meta name="Rating" content="general">

<link rel="stylesheet" href="stile.css" type="text/css">
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_popupMsg(msg) { //v1.0
alert(msg);
}
//-->
</script>
</head>

<body leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" bgcolor="#E0E0E0" text="#000000" link="#000000" vlink="#000000" alink="#000000">
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<tr>
<td align="center" valign="middle" class="CorpoCentrale">
<table width="772" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td align="left" valign="top"><img src="images/Spl01.jpg" width="772" height="173" name="business_company" border="0" usemap="#business_companyMap"></td>

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<td align="left" valign="top" bgcolor="#CC0000"><img src="images/spacer.gif" width="772" height="20"></td>
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<td align="left" valign="top"><object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0" width="772" height="347">
<param name=movie value="swf/Splash.swf">
<param name=quality value=high>
<embed src="swf/Splash.swf" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="772" height="347">
</embed>
</object></td>

</tr>
<tr>
<td align="left" valign="top"><img src="images/Spl02.jpg" width="772" height="23" name="warranty_management" usemap="#warrantyMap" border="0"></td>
</tr>
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<area shape="rect" coords="442,2,609,21" href="mailto:[email protected]" alt=":: scrivici un'e-mail ::" title=":: scrivici un'e-mail ::">
</map>

<map name="business_companyMap">
<area shape="rect" coords="634,42,697,126" href="http://www.ecoem.it" target="_blank" alt="Consorzio Ecoem - Sistema collettivo per il riciclo e la gestione dei RAEE" title="Consorzio Ecoem - Sistema collettivo per il riciclo e la gestione dei RAEE">
<area shape="rect" coords="397,40,488,106" href="http://www.confindustria.sa.it" target="_blank" alt="Confindustria Salerno" title="Confindustria Salerno">
</map>
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Ciao ciao.

@Sirio@
16-02-2009, 20:17
Per favore... non dico che mi dobbiate spiegare in modo approfondito, basta che mi indirizziate sulla strada giusta. :)

Penso sia una cosa interessante..

Grazie.

ShoShen
16-02-2009, 20:22
Per favore... non dico che mi dobbiate spiegare in modo approfondito, basta che mi indirizziate sulla strada giusta. :)

Penso sia una cosa interessante..

Grazie.

quoto sirio
interesserebbe anche a me :)

cloutz
16-02-2009, 20:51
quoto sirio
interesserebbe anche a me :)

mi aggiungo:)
anche io tenevo sott'occhio il 3d per aspettare la spiegazione:fagiano:

Saluti:D

sampei.nihira
16-02-2009, 22:37
Il linkscanner on line non serve a nulla.......:rolleyes:
Un pò meglio (ma non troppo) è quello sotto:

https://www.webcheck.melani.admin.ch/index_it.html

Almeno il primo lo prende !!

cloutz
16-02-2009, 22:46
Il linkscanner non serve a nulla.......:rolleyes:
Un pò meglio (ma non troppo) è quello sotto:

https://www.webcheck.melani.admin.ch/index_it.html

Almeno il primo lo prende !!

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Saluti:)

leolas
16-02-2009, 22:49
quindi la modifica incriminata sarebbe questa:
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Saluti:)

Avevo intuito che fosse quella (il javascript da quel sorgente era l'unica cosa incriminabile), ma non riesco mica a scaricare il file.. si vede che non sono molto esperto di html, javascript e affini :D

Per quanto riguarda quello col MBR, immaginavo che fossero i popup la colpa di tutto, ma nemmeno lì riesco a scaricare il file :fagiano:

xcdegasp
17-02-2009, 15:53
quindi la modifica incriminata sarebbe questa:
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Saluti:)

esatto basta guardare il codice sorgente per trovare l'iframe offuscato, poi deoffuscandolo si riesce a vedere a cosa punta e in che modo :)

edgar nelle sue news esegue proprio questo meccanismo e illustra passo passo fino a spiegare per intero che minaccia viene scaricata ecc...
forza allo studio, vi consiglio di partire con gli studi proprio dal blog di edgar che come base di partenza è ottima :)

@Sirio@
17-02-2009, 19:23
Grazie a tutti :)

Mi avete fatto un po' di chiarezza. :O

xcdegasp
06-03-2009, 15:19
ragazzi mi è appena risuccesso ma sul pc dell'ufficio dove non possiedo account admin, firefox è in versione portable, firefox era l'unico browser che oggi ho usato ma per stare su gmail e sul forum mentre IE è solo nei siti intranet aziendali...
non so chi tra IE e Firefox abbia aperto il pop-up, tale pop-up si è aperto in una situazione di completa inattività (da almeno 15min che non lo usavo):
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1635/connessionestrana.th.png (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=connessionestrana.png)

se provassi a raggiungere quel sito mi darebbe "400 Bad Request"...
non capisco il metodo e o cosa faccia scatenare questo pop-up particolare...

xcdegasp
08-03-2009, 12:06
forse ho capito cosa scatena i pop-up, solo una cosa è in comune con il pc debian, il pc in ufficio e il pc a trento..
l'estensione "TrackMeNot" che nelle sue query per "offuscare" eventuali tracciamenti della connessione, va a pescare siti magari compromessi che poi fanno aprire quei pop-up

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5462/nuovopopup.th.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nuovopopup.png)

:p