macubo
10-03-2007, 01:44
Ciao a tutti, ho preso questo case:
SHARKOON REBEL9 VALUE
http://www.macubo.co.uk/test/rebel9v.jpg
A quanti fossero interessati, secondo me è più bello del Chackra di Enermax, anche se devo dire che non mi sembra fatto abbastanza bene (ad esempio le slitte cdrom non sono tool-free ecc) però costa meno (54€ contro 66 credo).
Un po' di caratteristiche (complete su http://www.sharkoon.com):
Features:
• Midi ATX form factor
• 9 x 5.25“ drive bays
• 1 x 120mm fan at the front (pre-installed)
• 1 x 250 mm sideblower fan in the side panel (pre-installed)
• 2 x 80mm fans or 1 x 120 mm fan at the back side (optional)
• Front-I/O with 4 x USB2.0, headphone and microphone jacks
• Detachable front cover
• 7 x slots for add-on cards with screw mounting
• Dimensions: 200 x 435 x 486 mm (WxHxD)
e qui una mini recensione di un tizio (completa su http://forums.techpowerup.com/archive/index.php/t-24916.html):
sharkoon rebel 9 value edition mini 'review' / case notes
Thought I'd add some info on this case for anybody interested c'os when I bought it, it was bought 'blind' as there was only a few German reviews out there (albeit good ones) so for anybody considering this case plz read on.
I built a Core 2 Duo system in this case. The construction's nice with good airflow and has room to work in. Simple 's good. Nothing broken and well packaged. You could easily fit 2 more 120mm fans in the front if thats your thing however you'd have to jimmy up some mounting brackets yourself. The case doesn't come with a rear exhaust fan. Add 1x120mm or 2x 80mm fans to your taste.
The front fan is a bit noisey but shifts air. The 250mm ( pushes air in only) produces a noise more like a noisey draft / gust. I contacted Sharkoon about this:
> Hi
>
> re: 250mm case fan on Rebel 9 value
>
> I've bought this case however the side mounted fan produces a little too much
> noise and am hoping to reduce it.
>
> Could you please tell me what this fans electrical ratings are in watts/amps
> and is it possible/advisable to fit it (via a 4 pin molex to 3 pin fan
connector)
> to either A: The motherboard (probably not!) or B: to a fan controller (like
> the Vantec Nexus)?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Jamie
>
>
Dear Jamie,
you can reduce noise by using a fan controller. You must use a controller with
4 pin connector or 3pin via adapter. The current from 250mm DC fan is 0.3A.
You must proof if your motherboards fan connector can handle 0.3A, Normally
there is no problem.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Klein
(Sharkoon's tech support's good and speedy)
I fitted a nexus 3.5" fan controller (the 250mm will need a 4pin molex to 3pin connector lead) and the system is much quieter (at 7v) although not silent. If you got one of those fan controllers (i think vantec do em) that allows you to switch off each fan then you could keep the big fan in reserve for summer.
This is the controller I got:
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2003/09/22/front_mounted_ports/page10.html
Also in another email (which I've lost) I asked about the height of any tower heatsink and they came back with 150-155mm tall off Mobo max to avoid the 250mm fan which is about 25-30mm deep inside the case. Instead I elected to get a Scythe Samuraii heatsink (clocked at a lazy 3GHz; E6400 /P5B DELUXE / Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D / Corsair 520 PSU /no voltage increase: just remember to clock your ram to down 533 then tinker with tightening the timings after you've got a stable build by upping the FSB). Unbelievably easy.
The huge side fan blows cool air directly onto the CPU fan and as an added bonus the chipset/ram/video card gets cooled too - and I get idles at 30 C with 'Core Temp' (after 1hr warm up at 25c ambient: O/C'd btw) ... which is nice. A tower solution arguably wouldn't have worked as well anyways.. besides O/C'd core 2 duo's don't need uber cooling. MB temps are around the 28-30c mark if i remember right - not paying attention anymore :)
My 8800 GTX fits just fine btw.
Er... that's it... was going to respond with a simple 'it's great' one liner post, but I thought a good blether might help..
All in all I'd give it 8/10 (or 9/10 considering the low price). The 'Enermax Chakra' I believe is more or less the same case (perhaps with a superior fan??) but it's ugly as sin (to me)
I ran out of budget basically by choosing v good components. Although many would have you buy a top end case to go with the gear I'm very happy with it... with the caveat that it is not silent. However it wasn't completely my purpose to build a silent PC although the PSU now has the quietest fan in the case! Grrr. Still, it's a badged Seasonic M12 which is ultra stable.
Hope this helps someone.. Mit freundlichen Grüßen (i'm Scottish):toast:
PS..Watch out for the 'riser hills' on the case/motherboard mounting plate that are employed to offset using traditional mobo riser's. I had to use insulating tape around these 'hills' to avoid shorting out my MB.. and it would have I'm sure..... not so good....
Da parte mia non l'ho ancora montato, tuttavia ci sono piccoli problemi con l'alimentatore LC-Power LC6550GP 550W per via della ventola molto grossa, la cui griglia fa un po' di spessore sul lembo di lamiera dove appoggia l'ali. In questo modo i fori su telaio e su ali non combaciano perfettamente, tuttavia credo sia facilissimamente risolvibile.
Inoltre per montare gli hd ci sono degli adattatori in lamiera da avvitare all'hd e poi alle slitte laterali, non molto pratico. Per ora, è tutto.
Ciao
SHARKOON REBEL9 VALUE
http://www.macubo.co.uk/test/rebel9v.jpg
A quanti fossero interessati, secondo me è più bello del Chackra di Enermax, anche se devo dire che non mi sembra fatto abbastanza bene (ad esempio le slitte cdrom non sono tool-free ecc) però costa meno (54€ contro 66 credo).
Un po' di caratteristiche (complete su http://www.sharkoon.com):
Features:
• Midi ATX form factor
• 9 x 5.25“ drive bays
• 1 x 120mm fan at the front (pre-installed)
• 1 x 250 mm sideblower fan in the side panel (pre-installed)
• 2 x 80mm fans or 1 x 120 mm fan at the back side (optional)
• Front-I/O with 4 x USB2.0, headphone and microphone jacks
• Detachable front cover
• 7 x slots for add-on cards with screw mounting
• Dimensions: 200 x 435 x 486 mm (WxHxD)
e qui una mini recensione di un tizio (completa su http://forums.techpowerup.com/archive/index.php/t-24916.html):
sharkoon rebel 9 value edition mini 'review' / case notes
Thought I'd add some info on this case for anybody interested c'os when I bought it, it was bought 'blind' as there was only a few German reviews out there (albeit good ones) so for anybody considering this case plz read on.
I built a Core 2 Duo system in this case. The construction's nice with good airflow and has room to work in. Simple 's good. Nothing broken and well packaged. You could easily fit 2 more 120mm fans in the front if thats your thing however you'd have to jimmy up some mounting brackets yourself. The case doesn't come with a rear exhaust fan. Add 1x120mm or 2x 80mm fans to your taste.
The front fan is a bit noisey but shifts air. The 250mm ( pushes air in only) produces a noise more like a noisey draft / gust. I contacted Sharkoon about this:
> Hi
>
> re: 250mm case fan on Rebel 9 value
>
> I've bought this case however the side mounted fan produces a little too much
> noise and am hoping to reduce it.
>
> Could you please tell me what this fans electrical ratings are in watts/amps
> and is it possible/advisable to fit it (via a 4 pin molex to 3 pin fan
connector)
> to either A: The motherboard (probably not!) or B: to a fan controller (like
> the Vantec Nexus)?
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Jamie
>
>
Dear Jamie,
you can reduce noise by using a fan controller. You must use a controller with
4 pin connector or 3pin via adapter. The current from 250mm DC fan is 0.3A.
You must proof if your motherboards fan connector can handle 0.3A, Normally
there is no problem.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Klein
(Sharkoon's tech support's good and speedy)
I fitted a nexus 3.5" fan controller (the 250mm will need a 4pin molex to 3pin connector lead) and the system is much quieter (at 7v) although not silent. If you got one of those fan controllers (i think vantec do em) that allows you to switch off each fan then you could keep the big fan in reserve for summer.
This is the controller I got:
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2003/09/22/front_mounted_ports/page10.html
Also in another email (which I've lost) I asked about the height of any tower heatsink and they came back with 150-155mm tall off Mobo max to avoid the 250mm fan which is about 25-30mm deep inside the case. Instead I elected to get a Scythe Samuraii heatsink (clocked at a lazy 3GHz; E6400 /P5B DELUXE / Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D / Corsair 520 PSU /no voltage increase: just remember to clock your ram to down 533 then tinker with tightening the timings after you've got a stable build by upping the FSB). Unbelievably easy.
The huge side fan blows cool air directly onto the CPU fan and as an added bonus the chipset/ram/video card gets cooled too - and I get idles at 30 C with 'Core Temp' (after 1hr warm up at 25c ambient: O/C'd btw) ... which is nice. A tower solution arguably wouldn't have worked as well anyways.. besides O/C'd core 2 duo's don't need uber cooling. MB temps are around the 28-30c mark if i remember right - not paying attention anymore :)
My 8800 GTX fits just fine btw.
Er... that's it... was going to respond with a simple 'it's great' one liner post, but I thought a good blether might help..
All in all I'd give it 8/10 (or 9/10 considering the low price). The 'Enermax Chakra' I believe is more or less the same case (perhaps with a superior fan??) but it's ugly as sin (to me)
I ran out of budget basically by choosing v good components. Although many would have you buy a top end case to go with the gear I'm very happy with it... with the caveat that it is not silent. However it wasn't completely my purpose to build a silent PC although the PSU now has the quietest fan in the case! Grrr. Still, it's a badged Seasonic M12 which is ultra stable.
Hope this helps someone.. Mit freundlichen Grüßen (i'm Scottish):toast:
PS..Watch out for the 'riser hills' on the case/motherboard mounting plate that are employed to offset using traditional mobo riser's. I had to use insulating tape around these 'hills' to avoid shorting out my MB.. and it would have I'm sure..... not so good....
Da parte mia non l'ho ancora montato, tuttavia ci sono piccoli problemi con l'alimentatore LC-Power LC6550GP 550W per via della ventola molto grossa, la cui griglia fa un po' di spessore sul lembo di lamiera dove appoggia l'ali. In questo modo i fori su telaio e su ali non combaciano perfettamente, tuttavia credo sia facilissimamente risolvibile.
Inoltre per montare gli hd ci sono degli adattatori in lamiera da avvitare all'hd e poi alle slitte laterali, non molto pratico. Per ora, è tutto.
Ciao